Sheesh we cant even control our biome here on earth but somehow starting from scratch somewhere else would be reasonable!
Our species is truly bizarre and quite delusional.
Our species is truly bizarre and quite delusional.
Well it's far more reasonable than being able to travel to the other side of the galaxy in a weekend or two.Sheesh we cant even control our biome here on earth but somehow starting from scratch somewhere else would be reasonable!
Our species is truly bizarre and quite delusional.
Very likely those bacteria and viruses don't have any chance of infecting us. Those things evolve with symbiosis on local ecosystem and species. And have highly specialised ways of doing their business especially viruses. You don't get for example wheat streak disease, and you still are more related to wheat plant than anything found in alien world.True, but the issue with existing ELWs is that there are probably things living on them. Some of the large and pointy teeth variety may be an issue, but worse will be the bacteria and viruses that we will have no immunity to. Terraforming at least guarantees a clean start with no dangerous indigenous life without pesky environmentalist protesters moaning when you sterilise an inhabited planet.
Well Venus likely is not in Goldilocks zone of nowadays Sun. Same thing with Earth in about billion years in future. Venus gets about two times solar radiation compared to Earth. So lasting terraforming of Venus would necessarily involve either moving it out orbitally, or have some huge thing shadowing Sun to reduce solar radiation. Probably you need solar shade anyways to cool planet down fast enough and allow atmosphere to condense to dry ice, to make dealing with it easier.
There also is kind of philosophical and practical question. Is it very wise to make semiterraformed world that needs active high tech measures to remain in that condition? If some kind of major civilisational mishap happens those worlds could quite fastly become deadly traps for their inhabitants.
I'd really like to see that. I wish we were getting atmo planets this year instead of legsTrue, but the issue with existing ELWs is that there are probably things living on them. Some of the large and pointy teeth variety may be an issue, but worse will be the bacteria and viruses that we will have no immunity to. Terraforming at least guarantees a clean start with no dangerous indigenous life without pesky environmentalist protesters moaning when you sterilise an inhabited planet.
Did something official say we were getting legs? Because i dont want you to all be super upset when it doesnt happen most likelyI'd really like to see that. I wish we were getting atmo planets this year instead of legs
Let's be real here. Regardless of how easy or difficult it might be to terraform Venus in more than A thousand years, I'm pretty sure no one's interested in retconning however many years worth of elite lore just to substantiate someone's desire on the forum. I'd much rather have consistent history than believable science fiction
Is it just me, or is the concept of terraforming in Elite kinda off anyway considering all the unused ELWs that can be reached faster than it takes me to commute.
Solar irradiance is probably the least of all significant terraforming concerns, as this could be mitigated via solar shades or the like.
Reintroduction of hydrogen seems to be the largest barrier.
And also a magnetic field which deflects solar wind.
Fun factoid! Right now it's looking like the most common type of "Goldilocks zone" planet in the (real world) galaxy is going to be rocky bodies tidally locked to an M dwarf star. So it's a question of much interest whether such worlds with permanent day and night sides can be habitable. Early models are leaning towards yes, but expect lots of instruments to be pointed at such systems in the coming decades to try and find out for certain.Plus adding planetary rotation or otherwise means to produce some kind of feasible day night cycle. Arctic and antarctic species are only ones in Earth who can deal with months long days and nights. And keeping human habitable climate going with extreme long days and nights may be problem, so for terraforming Venus that needs to taken care...
Plus adding planetary rotation or otherwise means to produce some kind of feasible day night cycle. Arctic and antarctic species are only ones in Earth who can deal with months long days and nights. And keeping human habitable climate going with extreme long days and nights may be problem, so for terraforming Venus that needs to taken care...
Don’t forget the fact that Mars is at least in the habitable zone, whereas Venus is not, and even with a perfectly Earth-like atmosphere would still be too hot to support liquid water.Venus likely isn't all that easy to terraform. Without a magnetic field to protect it, essentially all of its hydrogen (necessary for water) has been stripped away by ultraviolet radiation and the solar wind. That's why CO2 and SO2 are the dominant oxides in its atmosphere now. Compare to Mars - which also lacks a magnetic field, and has probably lost 90+% of the water it originally held, but might still be salvaged by large reserves of water safely locked away as subsurface ice. All of Venus' geological water was long since baked out into the atmosphere.
That said, I'm all for cloud cities on Venus. Every time it comes up, I say, that's the easy way to introduce atmospheric planets, without the hassle of working out atmospheric surfaces all at once.
And also a magnetic field which deflects solar wind.
Plus adding planetary rotation or otherwise means to produce some kind of feasible day night cycle.
The number of FTL capable ships must be considerable considering I've taken out several thousand of them and get paid just loose change even when I'm participating a war. And I'm far from the most ruthless killer in the galaxy.We also don't know if and how other ships travel between systems nor if there are ships not capable of FTL travel.
If a magnetic field were required (I think it would be vastly easier to just replace anything lost to the solar wind than to try to hold on to it all over geologic timescales), a wholly artificial one created by satellites would still be easier than trying to get the planet to generate one.