Management Matters

Wessy

Wessy
I think, some of you are expecting way too much from the micromanaging aspect of the game. Please don't forget that frontier is making this game for a very large audience. They have to strike a balance between great gameplay and giving the player creative freedom.
There will always be the hardcore designers that would probably learn a completely new 3D modelling program just to have the flowerbed behind a building "just right". And there are also the hardcore park managers that just want to plop down prebuilt scenery and coasters but want to manage how much salt is on the fries on every last shop they build.

Unfortunately it is not possible to fulfill the wishes of each and every player and therefore some of you might be disappointed with the end result. While management will surely be an important part of the game, it will not be the only part. If that and only that is what you are after it is probably better for you to look at other, more niche, games.
 

widlanquebec

widlanquebec
Wessy said:
While management will surely be an important part of the game, it will not be the only part. If that and only that is what you are after it is probably better for you to look at other, more niche, games.
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Personally, I never said that and never want to micromanage the level of salt. But yes I want an interesting management game with some new ideas from previous RCT. The design part is so much than before that I still hope that it will be the same about administration of the park. I would still love to have a real management feeling, real challenge and real improvements.
 

DaXin

DaXin
I think there's a easy solution for break items. Just break Path itemps: Like lamps, benches or bins. These items should be easy to affect and replce.

The idea showed on that video months ago, was really funny. If course i understand is really dificult implement in the game that bandalism or just draws on walls... But by the way, i think there's a easy way to implement guards to the game. Just add wars to take care of park, and made people and workers more happy :) By the way could be a good add and people sure will like it.
 

Buffpuff

Buffpuff
Wessy said:
I think, some of you are expecting way too much from the micromanaging aspect of the game. Please don't forget that frontier is making this game for a very large audience. They have to strike a balance between great gameplay and giving the player creative freedom.
There will always be the hardcore designers that would probably learn a completely new 3D modelling program just to have the flowerbed behind a building "just right". And there are also the hardcore park managers that just want to plop down prebuilt scenery and coasters but want to manage how much salt is on the fries on every last shop they build.

Unfortunately it is not possible to fulfill the wishes of each and every player and therefore some of you might be disappointed with the end result. While management will surely be an important part of the game, it will not be the only part. If that and only that is what you are after it is probably better for you to look at other, more niche, games.
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I just want to clarify my position in that I'm not looking to tweak every aspect there is with managing a real theme park. I've never been a manager so I have zip experience in the field. But crunching numbers, tweaking profit margins, advertisement, etc. does appeal to me. It's not everyone's cup of tea. And I understand and respect that. But I look at what we have so far and I'm in awe. In awe of the creative tools that are in place. I watched a Nightmare Before XMAS theme ride video on the forums yesterday and all I could say is...WOW! Someone with an imagination and the patience to build was able to do that with what's in place. I'm looking for the same experience from the management portion. Yes it may not be as sexy or glamorous as building/creating a theme park but it still is part of building a theme park.
 

widlanquebec

widlanquebec
Yes Buffpuff exactly... There's so much effort put in creative part, ambiance and visuals that I'm hoping for so much effort put in maintenance.

We'll see soon.
 

Curlyriff

Curlyriff
Aye, I am pretty outspoken about the Management side because my day job is all about creativity, ambiance & visuals so that is why the management drawers me so. I want to be able decide truly what is done, how people are trained,what they learn and see how that affects the park and the guests.

Hitting buttons to get to lvl.3 from lvl.1 is not interesting and more mobile game side. The management side was why I didn't find RCT3 long term interesting for myself.

Have always said that Theme Hospital, Prision Architecture and even the older RCT1 & 2 brought so much great management to what a balance could be for PC. Taking the best parts and balancing through this. I probably should have waited to be honest to paying into the Alpha but was so keen to see it succeed and hoped that feedback we had given would make Frontier see how important the finer details of Management is needed.

At moment, we have to hope really that although the staff may be lack luster from everything that has been shown and seen that the options for shops and stocking, menu creation, R&D (which actually matters) has enough depth and impact.

I have to say I am not all that hopeful though [sad].

Will keep saying the menu's look lovely, however none show any real management or depth and just overviews of the general park info. That isn't management but just a report.
 

Isolated Fear

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So you tell us there will be a live stream but give us no time. What are we suppose to do just sit here all day refreshing the page till it goes live? Give us a time please.
 

Joël

Volunteer Moderator
Joël
Parkmaker said:
Thank you for posting this, time differences can be a headache at times.
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You're welcome. This week there is some extra difficulty because of the summer time / daylight saving time. Summer time has ended in Europe, but summer time / daylight saving time is still effective in the USA for a few more days.
 

Isolated Fear

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Okay thank you all for the help. I'm working 3rd almost every night so I don't have time to do anything but sleep and work right now. I will make time for these live streams though. I'm guessing this is 3:00 pm EST?
 

Joël

Volunteer Moderator
Joël
Isolated Fear said:
Okay thank you all for the help. I'm working 3rd almost every night so I don't have time to do anything but sleep and work right now. I will make time for these live streams though. I'm guessing this is 3:00 pm EST?
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The livestream will be on 3PM EDT (Eastern Daylight Time). EST (Eastern Standard Time) is not yet effective (it will be in 5 days from now).
 

Adri

Adri
Well,

I'm not a manager but I have to say that the management is really deeper than expected (shown in stream)
Zones are actually there, although they said they werent in.
And loads more was confirmed this stream.

I love it [big grin]
 

Angelis1

Angelis1
Adri said:
[...] Zones are actually there, although they said they werent in. [...]
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I know right !!!

This feature is pretty cool, maybe a little bit complicated for "casual", since it's not very "graphic/visual", but still pretty cool [yesnod][up]
 
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