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Demonlord79

Demonlord79
Heya Commanders,
Does anyone know if they have gotten to fix mining hotspots having and materials that the hotspots show.?
Devs seem to be ignoring tickets.

Thanks for any info or advice.
o7 Commanders
 

finglonger

F
define the problem your having?

iirc hotspots now only give a rough guide\estimate of what you have a slightly higher chance of finding X resource of

iirc this is WAI if its not then its a bug and wont get fixed by filing a ticket, you need to find an outstanding issue\bug report and vote that you have the same issue. if the bug\issue gets enough votes then it might get fixed one day
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Because it's been user error... Hot spots will never turn the area into 100% a item type and never were ever meant to...
So fdev will ignore them…

Metallic RING, not metal rich to laser mine hot spot item...
Ring A NOT Ring B... Nothing is broken, people need to re-read both the System map AND the ring names and ring starting distance...
But people don't

This is why All reports got rejected... As their logs on FDEV end show the wrong ring...
Metal rich can not be lasers mined for the hot spot item, only core mined... Its not broken, thats how they want it

It's why users then do not update issues with photos when asked because their location will be shown as RING B or wrong ring type...

Its not broken hot spot only increases a single core type change from the base ring value... If that base ring value generated script is LOW then its LOW with tiny increase... If its high then its high with a tiny increase...

User continue to make this error every day... But as nobody cares about mining on this forum because it now pays way less than combat and trade..
People only find this out on Reddit or other sites...
Mining is working as planned by fdev...

ICE ring suck and generation rates for ex high price items were reduced as planned... there meant to be extremely low and you get booby prize cores instead... This is not a bug, this was forced change in july (Edit=2020) planned with release notes and forum topic...
Rocky ring core mining generation rates were not lowered, unlike ice rings...
But hotspots were never increase to 100% they only increase the preset item from its base level in that ring section...

Of course to find this out means visiting other actual sites like Reddit mining section... Were the stats nerds lived for mining till trade and combat replaced it as the top money creating systems...
( Mapped laser mining is to much hassle, so a lot quit that Reddit section. )
 
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finglonger

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GraphiteGB said:
Because its been user error... Hot spots will never turn the area into 100% a item type and never were ever meant to...
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pre whichever update it was the chances of finding X resource in a hotspot was higher.. i dont recall it ever being a 100% chance

iirc all hotspots mean now is you have a slightly higher chance of finding X resource........ however if your using a known resource hotspot the chance of finding X is reduced because everybody knows about it

if you want to mine in hotspots you need to mine away from the bubble or find a new undiscovered hotspot
 
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GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
finglonger said:
pre whichever update it was the chances of finding X resource in a hotspot was higher.. i dont recall it ever being a 100% chance

iirc all hotspots mean now is you have a slightly higher chance of finding X resource........ however if your using a known resource hotspot the chance of finding X is reduced because everybody knows about it

if you want to mine in hotspots you need to mine away from the bubble or find a new undiscovered hotspot
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Resets every 6 days for cores... its a shared supply yes but you can tell if others are in the ring as Mined core asset show as cracked,, no cracked rocks, no body has been there...
Resets every 3 hours for laser mining..
Laser mining is Single user tracked action only NOT effected by any one else...
This is why Laser mapped mining can work as a hole wing can run the same map every 3 hours and fill a full cutter in under 40mins...
Then come back in 3 hours and repeat the same run yet again.
 
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GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
For more info to read, go to reddit...

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
Just be aware to read the rules and most recent "state of current mining sticky" topic...
Mining is dead on this forum, does not pay enough any more after price rebalance in nov 2020, lol...
 
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Demonlord79

Demonlord79
So let me get this right cause I'm getting two different answers here. If the ring says that there is a hotspot of lets say Painite, there will be absolutely NO Painite in it from either core highlights or even normal asteroids? As this is what I have found out over mining with over 700 mining prospect limpets and NO painite at all.
Mainly that's what I'm really asking here, rings that have hotspots or normal rings that are known for afore mentioned material will never be found?
This brings me to the missions that request mining materials, so they can't be done?

Next, Is Frontier going to run this game into the ground with combat only and FPS space legs?

Thanks for any information concerning this Commanders...o7
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
If the ring that the hotspot is in is metal rich ring and you're using LASER mining only, there is no way to get painite with laser mining in that hot spot...
You require CORE mining in metal rich...
Core mining can not be done blind... core mining requires....

  • Seismic Charge Launcher
  • Refinery
  • A-Class Pulse Wave Analyser, you have to learn how to do it correctly using the shape of the rock.. colour is not enough..
  • Detailed Surface Scanner
  • Abrasion Blaster
  • Prospector Limpet Controller, Collector Limpet Controller, Limpets...
If the ring with the hot spot is Metallic ring then you can laser mine or core mine... This is the only ring type you can laser mine painite...

If the ring is set to generate painite cores only 1 in 1000KM of core rocks using a hot spot will make little difference as it does not alter the number of cores generated per 1000KM it only increases the Type of core still... so could go to changing to 1 painite core selected every 900KM of cores...

Mining rushes are over...
Painite is no longer worth Core mining as every thing in a Rocky ring when core mining is worth way more...
 
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Para Handy

Para Handy
Demonlord79 said:
So let me get this right cause I'm getting two different answers here. If the ring says that there is a hotspot of lets say Painite, there will be absolutely NO Painite in it from either core highlights or even normal asteroids? As this is what I have found out over mining with over 700 mining prospect limpets and NO painite at all.
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I don't know where you are coming from. @GraphiteGB has told you about the conditions. You say you find nowt of a material in a hotspot of that material but I did some core-mining last week. I still think cores are more rare than they were before but I have not had any great trouble in finding Benitoite in a Benitoite hotspot in a rocky ring out near Pratchett's Disc. (Just visiting to make sure the Ankh Guards were back in charge.)

BTW - I don't agree that it HAS to be an A-rated PWS - I very often use a class B as that takes half the power for a very small reduction in range. YMMV
 
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GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
K Olley said:
Just had a look at what PWS's I have got fitted, either C or D rated, I don't have trouble finding Cores:)
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But you would have even more the longer the range...with lower range you "DO" risk missing a core highlight that you can fly right past when you could be getting even more... but you won't actually know because you can fly right past them because the PWA won't display them as you spin the camera around the ship on external view from the pulse... thats the issue, ignorance of what you missed compared to another player with grade A...
You may be happy with it but that does not change you might have boosted pass other cores...

There could be another core right next to the core you mined, just out of the range thats is the risk people take...
it's even more luck when you reduce the range and then boost in a single direction on if the PWA will find a high price core...


For OP
The core mining is luck based RNG still... Were you drop in the ring hot spot to start with you could flnd more high price item cores if you fly in a different direction from your drop point than you did last time, you also could end up with 9 booby prize core rocks and 1 good rock out of 10...
Untill you set a prefixed course and then run it every 6 days you will be stuck with RNG...

Mapped core mining can be done if you have a fixed reference point and stick to it this then removes RNG as the next time you drop you know exactly how many cores were at the centre 0KM and on a direct line to the planet centre you then know exactly how many that flight line ended up with ... And if its bad you know not to go that way...
Pick your start point and stick to an end point and fly the path... Then next run change the end point in the same ring, say a nebula not the planet and do that direction run...
For fast core mining detection, Boost speed is more important than cargo rack or hardpoints...
 
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GroG79

G
One big PS:

Today platinum is much better to mine then painite. Loads more places to sell. No sale taxes due to high demand sell places and up to 66.67% yield per rock. Also: Metallic ring only.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
GraphiteGB said:
But you would have even more the longer the range...........
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I think you are being overly finicky there. The difference between an A and a B is only 3000m - so a B ranges to 21000, an A to 24000 - even a C has a range of 18000. I am quite happy with seven eighths of an A's range for half the power draw.
 

Frags

F
Looks like core asteroids are often appear in clusters of two and more. I found up to four core asteroids in a row within a few kilometers from each other.
 
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