Missions are still broken

[ferus]

So you buy a game and expect endless expansions and new content for free?

O7

New content (such as Odyssey) is not free. And that's fine. We paid for it and got a hot mess that should never have left even alpha testing.

With that said, I would expect for the devs to get the game into a state that was advertised and if not that then at least to a working state. Where you don't have to worry about the basic missions being broken.

I think that's a fair expectation - to get a working product for my money.

 

[Northpin]

Again nothing about a loss

The company as a whole didn't make a loss, because they sell many other things than Odyssey, many of which were profitable, but they did make a much lower profit than expected

For Odyssey specifically:

which translated out of accountant roughly means "of the money we spent developing Odyssey we don't expect to ever get £7.4 million of it back from future sales" which you could casually term a "£7.4 million loss" without being too imprecise.

They reported like 6 millions losses for the first half year of the FY 2022 (June-November 2021)
By the end of the FY2022, after counting everything they got (and stopping pumping money in Odyssey since last December), they ended up with a profit of only 1.5 millions instead of having like 9 millions profits.

Obviously some investors were fuming over this.
With the net result of Odyssey still running, but on a veeery low and tight budget.
And maybe it's not a coincidence that DBOBE stepped down as CEO

 

[cmdr milesred]

wow

deviate much?

 

[Northpin]

wow

deviate much?

Well, people do seem to wonder quite often why this why that.
And lack of funding means lack of resources means... bugs not getting fixed.

They didnt have a good record on bug fixing, not even before the last year cuts, but now it's worse.

For example PWA is broken since update 12.
And i find that worse than some missions where a scav or a settlement dweller goes missing.
One can supercruise out than back in and redo the mission - but with a broken PWA i dont have this luxury

 

[Florenus]

Again nothing about a loss


Despite this they are optimistic, as are most of the player base.

O7

Ian explained it best.

You can be as optimistic as you want, but reality is rather grim.

 

[RooksBailey]

A year and a half later and the most basic missions are still broken?
Just did a settlement raid and the last target wasn´t around. Checked the terminal, no staff present.
This has been reported and acknowledged several times since the release of Odyssey.
I can´t even laugh about these things anymore, it feels like they are simply incapable to fix some things.
I don´t want to sound harsh, but at this point it´s just ridiculous.
At least the framerate was better than the last time.

I have to be honest: I almost completely stopped playing EDO for the month of November. And the reason was similar to the OP: I just got sick of tripping over the same bugs again and again, bugs that have been reported countless times, acknowledged often, and still persist. And not even so-called "edge-case bugs" but bugs that even a casual playthrough will uncover, such as the various mission bugs. I used to say this all the time with Horizons: I am at a loss to name another developer that seems as indifferent to QoL as Frontier is. Even though I prefer EDO, I have instead been banking hours in NMS and Eve Online. Sure, those games have their issues, but at least the devs are quick to address reported issues. I found going to Eve (or NMS) from Elite was like upgrading from a fleabag motel to the Ritz. Polish, polish, polish everywhere. Meanwhile, we keep complaining to Frontier management about the aliased cockroaches in our rooms but all we get is a pre-recorded "we're (perhaps) working on it" response.

Very frustrating.

As ever, I am hopeful that this next update delivers a hefty dose of QoL because the game doesn't just need it, but it deserves it.

 

[space voyager]

As ever, I am hopeful that this next update delivers a hefty dose of QoL because the game doesn't just need it, but it deserves it.

Hopeful perhaps, optimistic I am NOT. Usually updates bring new content with new bugs (perhaps this can be seen as a pun, we'll see if Thargoids arrive) but rarely do they focus on ironing out old bugs.

 

[Xaviour]

A year and a half later and the most basic missions are still broken?
Just did a settlement raid and the last target wasn´t around. Checked the terminal, no staff present.
This has been reported and acknowledged several times since the release of Odyssey.
I can´t even laugh about these things anymore, it feels like they are simply incapable to fix some things.
I don´t want to sound harsh, but at this point it´s just ridiculous.
At least the framerate was better than the last time.

I've raised tickets for this exact issue for U12 and U13 and posted defect link in the forum for the updates release notes. Response given was, we'll investigate. Tickets had expired and closed. Not even a hot fix done for it. Tragically sad support.


Even the salvage missions are broken, where the required item to salvage is not in the instance. Will only appear after 1 to 4 game session reloads.

 

[bangermsuk]

tell me about it, just finished one and it refuse to play ball.no payout options, just a completed button. so that another 117 million + 15 million fine if i hit the completed button it crashes the game.

 

[Greasetrap42]

Your playing an MMO that has no subscription and does not push loot crates or in game purchases down your throat, wheres the money coming from?
The only way more would be invested is if the player base pushed the game to a subscription to raise investment funds.

I know I'm just one player. And I'm sure Frontier does their marketing analysis....

...and I know I do not represent a large % of players. But if they want/need more money I would gladly pay 3X for a reasonable DLC that actually works good on release.


(Of course after the EDO debacle I would not pre-order a new DLC. I would wait for 3rd party reviews of the released product. Love the game, don't trust the company.)

 

[Viajero]

A year and a half later and the most basic missions are still broken?
Just did a settlement raid and the last target wasn´t around. Checked the terminal, no staff present.
This has been reported and acknowledged several times since the release of Odyssey.
I can´t even laugh about these things anymore, it feels like they are simply incapable to fix some things.
I don´t want to sound harsh, but at this point it´s just ridiculous.
At least the framerate was better than the last time.

Done tons of raids, been a while since I have had that issue. And I have been playing on foot almost exclusively since EDO launched. Not saying it does not happen from time to time if unlucky, but in my personal experience there has been zero events like this for a while now. I would not consider missions broken at all, far from it.

 

[space voyager]

Done tons of raids, been a while since I have had that issue. And I have been playing on foot almost exclusively since EDO launched. Not saying it does not happen from time to time if unlucky, but in my personal experience there has been zero events like this for a while now. I would not consider missions broken at all, far from it.

Been a couple of months since I last played but then the issues were definitely there. Several times there was no last guy to be killed etc..

 

[Phoenix_Dfire]

Your playing an MMO that has no subscription and does not push loot crates or in game purchases down your throat, wheres the money coming from?
The only way more would be invested is if the player base pushed the game to a subscription to raise investment funds.

O7

The problem is that there is no guarantee that the money you pay in a sub or even for for the cosmetic items we already buy go to fund the game. It goes into Frontier and they choose what level of support the game gets. A few years ago Fdev's company accounts said that Elite has generated over £100 million for fDev in revenue but It obvious that they haven't sunk that 100 million back into the game. That money went to fund other games like Planet Coaster, Jurassic World and Planet Zoo. This isn't Star Citizen where you know that your money will be used in the development of the game you want. It's the Game Business and that's the way it's always been.

Personally, I would love it if they offered something like a Kickstarter to fund certain parts of the game. I.E. VR Odyssey. That way you know that the money is ringfenced for a VR upgrade and those who do not have VR are not subsiding those that do, which is how it is at the moment. Personally, I would love to have VR Odyssey but I know that there is a huge amount of work required to convert a FPS to VR, and yes I know that NMS has already done it but people forget that took them three years to put it in from launch.

 

[Walter2]

Done tons of raids, been a while since I have had that issue. And I have been playing on foot almost exclusively since EDO launched. Not saying it does not happen from time to time if unlucky, but in my personal experience there has been zero events like this for a while now. I would not consider missions broken at all, far from it.

And this is only about on-foot missions, not all "basic missions" as night be inferred. I don't do these at all and have had no problems.