Well, my dad could beat both of you up.
If he could handle a 2-vs-1 that well, you have an awesome dad
Multicrew trolling - it works!
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If he could handle a 2-vs-1 that well, you have an awesome dad
You wait until your friend shows up in the instance...not that's even required.
Plenty of miners in Open, and plenty of them a RES for the bonus. If your connection is sound and you haven't been blocked, you are likely to wind up in that person's instance if you drop out of SC within 50km of them. The bandwidth meter will confirm, then homing in on someone using mining lasers is easy.
I'm very useful to improve the game experience for everyone. Such flaws need to be addressed to 'force' the devs looking into it.
A simple panel were the CMDR set permissions what each role can do and what not would help.
This is what you do when not pulling legs off spiders, crap attitude!. I hope you are served a large portion of karma, bis dann.
I`ve known a few people with a particular sense of cruelty in their hearts in real life. The needless killing of things that haven`t harmed them and clearly can`t defend themselves. i`m always reminded of those people whenever I see others online clearly there to upset others by teamkilling or destroying a team-ship then coming to a forum to actually boast about what they`ve done. If they could get away with it they`d be pulling people`s arms and legs off.
It may seem that real life and mp gaming are far apart, but they really aren`t. Online gaming griefers just shows you what some people would do if they could.
However, I wouldn`t bann them just make them suffer the conseqeunces of their actions in game.
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In RES, sure. But outside RES? Crewmembers cant set wing beacons, and just jumping randomly into rings will never get you close enough...
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A miner trying not to be found likely won't.
But there is a tangible mining bonus to being within ~20km of a RES and I'd imagine most miners looking for crew would want the crew precisely to handle the NPCs around a RES.
It seems to be in the vein of, either "FDev didn't make this properly because you can troll" or "Hey look I found out you can do this with a new feature, do it!" ? but yeah, Elite isn't special in that regard, people however do want to create drama.
The attitude of some players of Elite in this thread are the exact reason I will never play in Open, and certainly wouldn't risk trying MC.
Congratulations FDev, Sandro. You've created a game with drama. I hope this is fulfilling the vision you and David Braben had when this project started years ago, when you all sat around a table discussing ideas and development strategies.
There are always trolls, idiots and attention-seekers in any game where there is an outlet for showing off. Most developers tend to at least attempt to make some in-game mechanics to stop obvious game disruption. Not Frontier, apparently, this is all part of the game design, and it's the fault of players who don't know how to be nice.
This works when you have a game specifically designed around anarchy. But Elite isn't supposed to be that game. It's got rules, governments, security. It has factions that break these rules; pirates etc. This is fine, but even a game DESIGNED TO BE CHAOTIC, Eve, has a substantial risk/reward system in place. Can you possibly imagine the outcry if a similar MC system was introduced over there, where randoms could join a ship, and cause mayhem in the same way that can be done here?
It seems like Frontier are trying to make Elite a completely self-sustaining game, with the players acting as the arbiters, and rogues, while moving on to develop the next fluffy selling point. But without the correct tools to do so, it simply isn't going to happen. Sandro has all but said MC is done, he's happy with it, and is unconcerned about your opinion. And that's been true about almost every aspect of the game, except for PvP combat for whatever reason.
Finally, I always make a habit of setting those without the ability to cognitively argue a point on the forums to ignore, as they never add anything constructive to any thread. It's unfortunate it's such a long list - however I notice that the number of voices who oppose the MC system as it is right now is indeed vast, compared to those who feel it is just fine as it is. These tend to be the same people who like PVP killing, griefing and all the other anti-social behaviours possible in this game. I find that quite telling.
Congratulations FDev, Sandro. You've created a game with drama. I hope this is fulfilling the vision you and David Braben had when this project started years ago, when you all sat around a table discussing ideas and development strategies.
There are always trolls, idiots and attention-seekers in any game where there is an outlet for showing off. Most developers tend to at least attempt to make some in-game mechanics to stop obvious game disruption. Not Frontier, apparently, this is all part of the game design, and it's the fault of players who don't know how to be nice.
This works when you have a game specifically designed around anarchy. But Elite isn't supposed to be that game. It's got rules, governments, security. It has factions that break these rules; pirates etc. This is fine, but even a game DESIGNED TO BE CHAOTIC, Eve, has a substantial risk/reward system in place. Can you possibly imagine the outcry if a similar MC system was introduced over there, where randoms could join a ship, and cause mayhem in the same way that can be done here?
It seems like Frontier are trying to make Elite a completely self-sustaining game, with the players acting as the arbiters, and rogues, while moving on to develop the next fluffy selling point. But without the correct tools to do so, it simply isn't going to happen. Sandro has all but said MC is done, he's happy with it, and is unconcerned about your opinion. And that's been true about almost every aspect of the game, except for PvP combat for whatever reason.
Finally, I always make a habit of setting those without the ability to cognitively argue a point on the forums to ignore, as they never add anything constructive to any thread. It's unfortunate it's such a long list - however I notice that the number of voices who oppose the MC system as it is right now is indeed vast, compared to those who feel it is just fine as it is. These tend to be the same people who like PVP killing, griefing and all the other anti-social behaviours possible in this game. I find that quite telling.
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Lets look back to the "real life" examples.
Anyone saw "Alien"? As i remember they also had an eight troll onboard...
... or "The Hitcher", there was a thread about taking a ride with a stranger.
In fact - nothing wrong with multicrew. Instead of whining you all should better watch an airlock.
Anyone saw "Alien"? As i remember they also had an eight troll onboard...
... or "The Hitcher", there was a thread about taking a ride with a stranger.
In fact - nothing wrong with multicrew. Instead of whining you all should better watch an airlock.
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There's the logic. Video game idiocy justified by examples from Hollywood movies.
I feel better now.
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Well, my dad could beat both of you up.
Huzzah!
Just leave doors in your house open for few days and get holiday
Then you feel better.
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"dad game" is just code for "folks 'win' by playing in a way I don't like so it must be a bad game" - you'd probably own me seven ways from Sunday in a FPS, but if you met me in the dojo I think I could make a fair stab at kicking you through the wall and I'd put the guys in my old unit up against any bunch of gamers when the rounds are real. Lose the "dad game" attitude, because quite a few dads are older, meaner and uglier than you are
Just leave doors in your house open for few days and get holiday
I dont think the point of a computer game is to experience the dreck of humanity in your spare time.
"You got terminally ill due to bad luck. Game Over."
Could be realistic. Wont be fun.
Then simply a game what you in most would like to play is called: Space Engine. No griefing players, star, planets. And planetary landings with atmospheres.
Finally, its only a game. One thing what player need to do is lock seats or watch his passengers.
Passengers may be bad and good. Its a part of gameplay to meet a good, bad, or ugly passenger.
Someone want to be bad, he paid for it as You. Instead of telling other what they can, how they should play, who they are, just lock the doors, play in groups and problem solved.
Game is offering a possibilities to cut the trolls from Your game. Use them.
Doing the same thing and expecting different results is an definition of insanity.
You folks are stubbornly flying in hot spots, dying, over and over and you are expecting different thing when you are doing the same action.
Let it go, do not play in open with a people who you do not want to play and move on.
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Just leave doors in your house open for few days and get holiday
Then you feel better.
I've left my front door keys in the door several times in the last couple of years. The postman very nicely rings my doorbell and laughs at me when I do this. So far no nasty people have appeared (though that's not to say it couldn't happen).
If you want to try MC one day, we can fly a round together I guess. Even in the mystical 'Open' nothing much would happen to us. It's not exactly EVE Low Sec... (which is also not that dangerous... same as Elite, only certain bottlenecks.)
Anyway, I don't think there is much Frontier can do about it.
See, I own a lot of knives, swords, slingshots. My cousin has two young children and they love to see my weapon collection.
Would I leave them alone with them? Would I allow them to wield them without me standing right there next to them ready? No!
A sword is a sword and it's (in case of my swords) sharp and often also extremely pointy.
Would I allow my trainer to handle my swords? Sure, he knows what he is doing and I trust him. More than I trust my own skill.
If the children get hurt or I get hurt or anyone gets hurt using my weapons, then it is my fault.
It's the same in Elite. Don't put someone you don't know on a gunner's or pilot's seat and you are fine. This whole WoW Dungeon Finder-style teaming up was doomed to be flawed from the beginning and you should mentally tell yourself "At your own risk!"
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It`s interesting. i`ve flown in WW2 sims where a guy pilots a large bomber and 3-4people man the guns, etc and I`ve never seen anyone shoot friendly aircraft or do something stupid to their own team except maybe quitting (which could be for any reason). But then these are flight sims based on real life combat and perhaps the type of player wants to work in the same manner as those in real life, as a team towards a successful mission.
Also you can`t just pop in mid flight. You need to be there from flight take off.
Also you can`t just pop in mid flight. You need to be there from flight take off.
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