Multicrew trolling - it works!

[NW3]

MC: Yet another new feature that I won't be using. I sure wish FD would work on stuff that's relevant for exploration and Solo mode. So many of the feature additions are things I'll probably never use: MC, QCQ, PP, etc.

 

[zarrazee]

1st offence = 1 minute cooldown.
2nd offence = 5 minute cooldown.
3rd offence = 15 minute cooldown
4th offence = 1 hour cooldown
5th offence = 4 hour cooldown
6th offence = 1 day cooldown

Wow. You're lenient! I'd suggest something like...

1st offence =1 hour cooldown.
2nd offence = 1 day cooldown.
3rd offence = 1 week cooldown
4th offence = 1 month cooldown

Tough love.

 

[Mohrgan]

In this case it is binary. I can let anyone on to the ship, and let them do whatever they want when they get there, or I can let no one on. Yes, you are of course correct that I can also explicitly invite a friend. I trust my friends, so I am not concerned about what they would do. We are talking about random players who join.

I can open my ship to any random player or I can lock it. Those are the only two choices. I cannot open the fighter bays but lock the gunner role. I cannot lock the fighter bays and gunner while leaving "idle" available so people can view my Asp in front of something. I cannot allow someone to gun but keep control of my heatsinks and shield cells. Etc.

Granted, if such a permission system existed someone could still join, play nice for a bit, earn my trust, wait for me to open the other roles and then prank me after my guard was down. Ultimately we do all need to take responsibility for our actions. If someone joins, tricks me into trusting him and then trolls me then it's shame on me. But if we are given no way of easing into the trust relationship I completely understand why some players would prefer to eliminate the risk completely by simply not playing at all.

Right, you point out the end results for yourself. There will always be a way to cause trouble. Always. Blame the trouble on those who make it, not anyone else. Once the OP realized the issue he exploited, a reasonable person would have warned the community to beware. That wasn't the path he chose. And, when his gratification over messing with other peoples game time faded, he found it necessary to drag it up on the Forums, to squeeze that last morsel of self-worth out.

E|D has never set out to protect Commanders. Especially not from other Commanders. I believe that is the root of their stance on the Modes. Something for everyone, including the dorks. To ask FD to ensure that griefing is, through programing, impossible would reduce E|D to STO in a cockpit. Keep your eyes open, and use the tools you were born with, and remember, it's all just replaceable pixels in the end.

 

[JonLuis69]

Elite Dangerous 2.4: The Enforcers.

Allied to the changes made regarding "karma", players will be offered a new role wherein their task will be to hunt down, galaxy-wide, CMDR's whose infractions have landed them on lists available at all stations.

Oops sorry, my bad, but...

 

[Minonian]

Go join at another town?

Under another name...

 

[Dutchman141]

OP stated earlier he plays on Xbox, hence can keep changing his tag (and so don't bother blocking, just be wary).

I'm playing mostly in a pg so I don't have to worry.
I just don't understand someone's brain functions who thinks that deliberately and unasked ruining someone else's gameplay is fun.
Playing a multiplayer game for the purpose of ruining it for the others, very mature and respectable.
I wonder if many of these trolls have social issues irl or don't mean much in society at all.

 

[DaggerSnake]

You're in combat, and you want to deploy an SCB ASAP... You can't...

All because you've powered down the SCB as you want to retain control and do not want to give control to a complete stranger in the gunner seat?

Cmon guys. I'm talking about a toggle for letting another person control them. Not just turning them off. Why on earth would turning them completely off make any sense?

New Check box by module.
Crew control? Yes/no
If no, then helm controls as normal.

Or put options in the misc functions menu with landing gear and lights and orbit lines, where ever. The point is that the CMDR should have the options. Then self policing is accomplished.

 

[Crank Larson]

I just don't understand someone's brain functions who thinks that deliberately and unasked ruining someone else's gameplay is fun.

lol, it doesn't function properly, it is flawed. What's amusing is people trying to blame antisocial behaviour on the game, rather than the perpetrator.

 

[SeaFireliv]

Yesterday i've joined several ships, for bounty hunting and exploring.

Joining ships and just sitting there, doing nothing and get money for it, perfect for me.
If they ask why i'm not fighting, i said....oh i'm new to the game, need to figure out how everything works. (If they only would check my profile lol)

Now i found the option to deploy SCB's, which i did....oh nice, 3x cell banks.....enough to make the ship overheat.
The CMDR were slightly distracted and worried why all the SCB's are gone.
I said, obviously a bug *gggggg
Finally they figured it was me...but it was almost too late...they had to leave the haz res.

Found it more enjoyable instead of actually fighting.

I then tried to find some exploration vessels.....one were near Sag A.
Oh see, there are heatsinks to deploy.....the ASP CMDR hasn't realized it was me.
Another CMDR was even further away, heading to beagle point......and after my telepresence visit he lost all his heatsinks, i told him he need to restock and left.

What we have learned today?
Multicrew has flaws.....terrible flaws....which needs to be fixed. I might join some other ships today again, coz it was fun to troll innocent CMDR's.

Seriously, man. I just don`t understand this mentality. Screwing people over on the net for the `fun` of it just eventually leads to scewing people over in real life for the `fun` of it.

Still I hate the arcade mode thing anyway, so you`re probably a hidden gem in disguise.

 

[Kurok]

Yesterday i've joined several ships, for bounty hunting and exploring.

Joining ships and just sitting there, doing nothing and get money for it, perfect for me.
If they ask why i'm not fighting, i said....oh i'm new to the game, need to figure out how everything works. (If they only would check my profile lol)

Now i found the option to deploy SCB's, which i did....oh nice, 3x cell banks.....enough to make the ship overheat.
The CMDR were slightly distracted and worried why all the SCB's are gone.
I said, obviously a bug *gggggg
Finally they figured it was me...but it was almost too late...they had to leave the haz res.

Found it more enjoyable instead of actually fighting.

I then tried to find some exploration vessels.....one were near Sag A.
Oh see, there are heatsinks to deploy.....the ASP CMDR hasn't realized it was me.
Another CMDR was even further away, heading to beagle point......and after my telepresence visit he lost all his heatsinks, i told him he need to restock and left.

What we have learned today?
Multicrew has flaws.....terrible flaws....which needs to be fixed. I might join some other ships today again, coz it was fun to troll innocent CMDR's.

All I got to say is ROFLMAO!!!!!! I might come back to play if a credits EXPLOIT is found, my only goal in ED is to hit 10B, which I am shy by 4.3

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By the way rep'ed and support OP, good find!

 

[SeaFireliv]

Hello Commanders!

I just thought I'd drop my own two cents in here.

The concept of Multi-crew, at its core, is about cooperation, and trust. If folk are going to troll each other, there's a limit to how much protection we can (or should) put in place.

One of gunner's abilities is to be able to fire countermeasures. Gunner can be effective at this, poor at this, or deliberately bad. Anyone who would want to go down the last track is, in my opinion, someone I would not want to Multi-crew with, or wing with.

To some degree, folk have to take responsibility for their own actions. There's no mechanical upside to this unpleasant behaviour, so I see this as different from say, crime, because the game actively encourages criminal behaviour; when folk complain that the justice system is not fair enough, we say "OK", how can we address the balance and make it fairer.

Firing shield cells repeatedly for no good reason is just an unpleasant thing to do. And I'm fairly certain it is more likely to be detrimental to the community than helpful.

I actually agree with this.

The freedom must be allowed and people have to suffer the consequences of their actions if they`re not smart with it. You are always going to get ne`er do wells on the net. To try and restrict everything will just ruin online gaming.

That said, I go Solo.

 

[Vorxian]

I'll record such stuff later, my xbox storage is full.....need to make some space first :X

Haha OP, well done.

The rest of the game is full of gankers and griefers, why not blaze a trail ... troll-blazing trail.

I did have a chuckle. I did envisage this happening months ago

Look forward to your troll vids!

 

[Vorxian]

Hello Commanders!

I just thought I'd drop my own two cents in here.

The concept of Multi-crew, at its core, is about cooperation, and trust. If folk are going to troll each other, there's a limit to how much protection we can (or should) put in place.

To some degree, folk have to take responsibility for their own actions. There's no mechanical upside to this unpleasant behaviour, so I see this as different from say, crime, because the game actively encourages criminal behaviour; when folk complain that the justice system is not fair enough, we say "OK", how can we address the balance and make it fairer.

Firing shield cells repeatedly for no good reason is just an unpleasant thing to do. And I'm fairly certain it is more likely to be detrimental to the community than helpful.

The only thing I can really add is that much of the spirit of the game (for me) is avoiding undesirable side effects of other players with ill intent. I guess that isn't just players trying to prevent you from landing, or suicide ramming you, or just trolling you to really only garner "salt extraction". I guess it's impossible to police deliberate trolling to get a giggle from a poor unsuspecting player, but, if someone is thousands of LY from home, and is trolled for their heat sinks (or whatever else), is that a reportable offense? I guess not, but just ill spirited, perhaps?

Tbh it was going to happen, we're only human!

 

[Cmdr Esteban]

Yeah I joined a bounty hunting ship the other day, just to find myself in a Python without turrets and (obviously) without fighters. So basically I was just an extra pip. I tried to communicate with the pilot at least, and within 2 or 3 minutes he didnt even respond to me.

Then I got quite annoyed and figured out I could get his ship to 6xx% heat with his two 6A SCBs (got rid of the heat sinks before...).

@ CMDR ColD_ZA

might have some footage, have to check later...

This is not the kind of unethical behaviour I would expect from a member of Adle's Armada.

Perhaps next time simply abandon your post?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

you are such a team of thoughtless, talentless hacks

[...]

lying filth

go and PATCH YOUR GAME INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME ON FORUMS SPOUTING BANAL PLATITUDES ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY WHEN THIS TITLE ENCOURAGES NONE

LOL Sandro, that is just stupid in its very core.

[...]

Now, your "clever" answer [...]

How you can't understand that, having experience in the videogame industry, I don't understand...
Oh well, I checked the experience. Taking my words back.
As expected.

You wonder why devs don't post more often

 

[IronDuke]

trolly OP

Right. Thanks for posting this. As of now I shall never open my ship's multicrew to random strangers. Only people I actually know and trust will ever be in my ships.

--IronDuke

 

[Monk]

You wonder why devs don't post more often

Hopefully it is a reflection on the depravity of the posters and is laughed over heartily back at the office.

EDIT: This is a reply to a series of posts that have been moderated out. If it seems confusing to anyone, well, blame T.J., I guess.

 

[Herbrand]

Hello Commanders!

I just thought I'd drop my own two cents in here.

The concept of Multi-crew, at its core, is about cooperation, and trust. If folk are going to troll each other, there's a limit to how much protection we can (or should) put in place.

One of gunner's abilities is to be able to fire countermeasures. Gunner can be effective at this, poor at this, or deliberately bad. Anyone who would want to go down the last track is, in my opinion, someone I would not want to Multi-crew with, or wing with.

To some degree, folk have to take responsibility for their own actions. There's no mechanical upside to this unpleasant behaviour, so I see this as different from say, crime, because the game actively encourages criminal behaviour; when folk complain that the justice system is not fair enough, we say "OK", how can we address the balance and make it fairer.

Firing shield cells repeatedly for no good reason is just an unpleasant thing to do. And I'm fairly certain it is more likely to be detrimental to the community than helpful.

I don't get it - doesn't he realize the implications for an explorer to lose all his Heatsinks 20k+ ly away from the bubble? How disconnected one has to be from his own game to make a statement like this?

 

[markuslig]

But common, you have all been reading about it and experienced the behavior of players before, now you're inviting them into your ships, lol what did you expect. And especially since there's not much else to do. I said it when it was talk about the mc feature, there's no way i'm letting anyone on board my conda. You must have known this would be a problem. But the good news is, it's not working most of the time

Plaxinov... that was way out of line man

 

[bitstorm]

And he was never seen or heard from again.

Rumours are he's now buried in Yaffle's back garden.

edit: oh nm, there he is ^^^

I don't know, I mean what does it take to get banned from here if not that?

And now it is just a "lol".