It's dumbfires. Not seekers.
Murder rates increasing
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At risk of sounding like a dirtbag...it's not 'abuse', it's effective usage of the intended mechanic. Keep in mind: I don't actually care about ganking as a playstyle. Call me whatever you like (I don't engage in ganking myself for various roleplay reasons - in EVE Online, I did it constantly to establish an area denial zone for my corporation) but I personally believe ganking isn't an unhealthy feature of a game until the mechanics or balance of that game render it incented or the only means to engage in combat.
As I've already said, I think the main issue with ganking (murder of an inferior target) stems from the lack of feature support for the more traditional criminal paths of piracy, smuggling, and their natural counter of enforcement (bounty hunting & policing). You only see the bad in a tackling mechanic because you can't perceive its usage for enforcement.
Completely unrelated to the general discussion of this thread but mentioned in my larger post: there is a significant lack of balance between civilian defense measures and attacker capabilities. Tackling in and of itself still doesn't solve these basic issues. I for one think interdiction should require much more skill than it currently does, and incur a higher cooldown penalty on the FSD when successful (which eliminates the need for tackling, by the by). We also need more defensive countermeasures to ward off or at least stymy attackers long enough to buy time for an escape. I understand the concept of mass lock, but it is very poorly implemented and I would personally see it removed in exchange for the aforementioned change to interdiction mechanics. You don't need masslock if interdiction works well.
Edit: Clarification - I think interdiction should require more skill of the interdictor (not the target), but in turn inflict a higher FSD cooldown period on both interdictor and target on drop-out. This creates the tackling mechanic (FSD cooldown) but allows for natural countermeasures like speed, defensive hardiness, or fighting back. On the Interdiction side, the interdictor must use raw skill (not ship size, which often further tilts the balance) to acquire targets in super-cruise.
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You are correct sir!
I had no idea these even existed...so kudos!
On the one hand, it's gems like this that make engineering really nifty...on the other, yeah, why is this hidden away in engineering on such a random module type?
Because dumbfires are pretty difficult to hit. They are slow, and against a ship that is fleeing and dodging, it's almost a waste of ammo.
On the other hand, as a weapon for those that have the proper aim, it turns a ship like the aspx into a seriously deadly one (4 small hardpoints with dumbfires, hitting a ship without shields, it's 200 damage).
On the other hand, as a weapon for those that have the proper aim, it turns a ship like the aspx into a seriously deadly one (4 small hardpoints with dumbfires, hitting a ship without shields, it's 200 damage).
Well, there are a number of commanders flitting about declaring the game mostly dead...lol
I'm not willing to do this myself, but I can certainly understand why others would. It's unfortunate that people feel the need to do this; I wish FD would provide a mechanic/incentive for combat pilots to act as escorts for cargo haulers. Currently, there's really not much reason for a wing/squadron mate to accompany me when I'm hauling cargo.
GEEEZ! Man, you're just taking up space and wasting bandwidth. Go play solo if you can't deal with getting interdicted. You won't have to deal with those who love taking on human players nor the humiliation of being a serial clogger.
Here's a thought:
1) Figure out how not to get interdicted - it really isn't that hard
2) If you do get interdicted at least try to evade
3) If you fail to evade then figure out how to get the hell out of dodge - again not that hard. Multiple threads and at least one video on youtube that provides excellent instruction.
Follow each one of the above and at each step the interdictor will be saying to their self W.T.F. ? No one does this and get more and more frustrated. You win! and that's a lot more fun than clogging and if the pilot interdicting you records the clog you've just setup yourself up for public derision.
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Hmm.
So, you're in open, if I interdict you, and I'm NOT cheating, you will clog anyway?
Have I understood that right?
I have no way to know if you are cheating or not. And, judging by the proliferation of the cheat tools and the inactivity of Frontier to combat them, I can only assume that every hollow I see is a possible cheater. And I will act accordingly. If you can prove I have done something wrong, be my guest and report me for investigation.
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If we were forced to fight, I could understand your argument. But since we can run, it doesn't really matter if you escape a cheater or a regular player. If you are really consequent, you should have clogged since legacy modules with stats, that are impossible to archive now, were allowed to be retained.
So logically; if you 'believe' that everyone you see in open, is a potential cheat. Why do you fly in open. You must spend most of your time, logging out and back in again; that cannot be a pleasurable, experience at all.
You can't guarantee to be able to escape.
When I first when to farseer I encountered death multiple times.. someone said go solo.. since then ive never been killed except through my own stupidity..
I might think about creating a killing machine and go on a killing spree myself. im in the mood for it today..
Depends on the ship (loadout), but it would be boring otherwise. But that wasn't my point.
I'm guessing "disconnecting" is what you've always done. Now you've got a smoke screen.
Against a good wing this might be true, but normally it's not difficult to escape most gank attempts, if you're not flying a paper plane.
So your reaction to someone possibly(!) using external help is always using external help to escape. That's hypocrisy.