My open letter to Fdev

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You sure?



The minor faction in-game is shared by three player groups, and 13th legion is one of them. According to themselves. Last time a bunch of clowns did the Mobius-Thingy their faction got stomped on. Its a bit more complicated here because other groups are involved. I dont think its unreasonable to wonder what these other groups make of this. Do they stand behind 13th legion? Or do they kick them out of their alliance?

By the way, I am not making 'veiled ambiguous threats and demands', I'm advocating emergent content. You're not insinuating that you need mutual consent for that, right? :)

If you took the time to read the 13th Legion's history on Inara, you would know that we broke apart from the Prismatic Imperium. We used to be the military arm of Aisling, but as we grew we shed that restriction and now are the military for the entire Empire. The Prismatic Imperium has no leverage over the 13th Legion, although we are allies, as we are allies with almost every major Imperial group. Fortunately, I am not bound to gain the approval of our allies for starting a combat operation. If the operation is against the Federation, it is justified by our RP as the Imperial military.

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No, the point is clearly in the OP, sadly, all you did prove was your groups lack of trustworthiness, inability to communicate on any sensible level with the developer and a flare for the idiotic. And even if a 'blockade' was your only point, (which, it clearly wasn't but I'll play along), then that would have failed too, you know, other PG's, instancing, solo, time zones etc etc etc etc. Keep waving your epeen all you like with your 'I killed soooo many unprepared and undergeared ships'. your primary goal failed, your pretend secondary goal failed and Frontier and the rest of the community can't take you guys seriously any more, congratulations.

So because we can't enforce a 100% effective blockade we shouldn't try? Surely you don't believe such nonsense.

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Well...it's nice you are proud that 'any news, is good news'! Keep on playing your way. I would definitely suggest many more incursions of your group into various player groups...it certainly is gaining your group a lot of respect and follower!

We've gained a lot of new recruits in the past week as a matter of fact.
 
If you took the time to read the 13th Legion's history on Inara, you would know that we broke apart from the Prismatic Imperium. We used to be the military arm of Aisling, but as we grew we shed that restriction and now are the military for the entire Empire. The Prismatic Imperium has no leverage over the 13th Legion, although we are allies, as we are allies with almost every major Imperial group. Fortunately, I am not bound to gain the approval of our allies for starting a combat operation. If the operation is against the Federation, it is justified by our RP as the Imperial military.

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So because we can't enforce a 100% effective blockade we shouldn't try? Surely you don't believe such nonsense.

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We've gained a lot of new recruits in the past week as a matter of fact.

All for you trying as long as it does not mean infiltrating private groups, and to clarify don't state that 'I wanted to blockade a system in a private group, and I did exactly that, so I did get what I wanted.' because, you clearly did not.
 
If you took the time to read the 13th Legion's history on Inara, you would know that we broke apart from the Prismatic Imperium. We used to be the military arm of Aisling, but as we grew we shed that restriction and now are the military for the entire Empire. The Prismatic Imperium has no leverage over the 13th Legion, although we are allies, as we are allies with almost every major Imperial group. Fortunately, I am not bound to gain the approval of our allies for starting a combat operation. If the operation is against the Federation, it is justified by our RP as the Imperial military.

You're not the military of the Empire. If you were, this would be considered as a breach of the cease fire and the Federation would proceed to kick your ass.

You're a little militia under a very undiplomatic Lord Commander at best. :)
 
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If you took the time to read the 13th Legion's history on Inara, you would know that we broke apart from the Prismatic Imperium. We used to be the military arm of Aisling, but as we grew we shed that restriction and now are the military for the entire Empire.

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I wanted to blockade a system in a private group, and I did exactly that, so I did get what I wanted.

Oh god, not this again. You're not the military for the entire Empire, the navy of Empire is the military of the Empire. They give rank and access to cool ships, maybe you've heared of them. By the way, you lost, the CG won. Long live the Feds and all that jazz. :)

Seriously, anyone know why its always the people who shoot traders that play pretend-Napoleon? :rolleyes:
 
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Oh god, not this again. You're not the military for the entire Empire, the navy of Empire is the military of the Empire. They give rank and access to cool ships, maybe you've heared of them. By the way, you lost, the CG won. Long live the Feds and all that jazz. :)

Seriously, anyone know why its always the people who shoot traders that play pretend-Napoleon? :rolleyes:

I see you cherry picked and highlighted there.

Do you concede now that the two (ie the legion and the imperium) are unconnected?
 
Or perhaps not everyone craves that level of attention?

There are people in life who plod along without a grand scheme, and then there are people who want to make the biggest impact in life that they can. In the microcosm of this video game, you are obviously the former and I am the latter. It doesn't make either of us better or worse than the other. My point was simply that I appreciate that my group effects the story in the game. This isn't the first (and won't be the last) time that we have had a definite impact in the game. You're free to play the game as you see fit obviously, but for me, I like to know that my efforts are felt in the storyline. I mean seriously, how cool is that? One of the reasons I love this game.
 
You're not the military of the Empire. If you were, this would be considered as a breach of the cease fire and the Federation would proceed to kick your ass.

You're a little militia under a very undiplomatic Lord Commander at best. :)

Come to think of it, if the Imperial Navy really did consist of a few dozen dudes it would explain their abject failure in most CGs. :D
 
I am only surprised (unpleasantly) that you was not yet banned from the game completely. But maybe FD just not have enough time to go through the logs and ban everyone who violated the EULA.

Please, explain to me how killing players in a private group is breaking the EULA, even is such group declares that it's PvE only? I really didn't take the time to read the entire EULA but what they violated was the implied rule of Mobius, I don't think they broke any of the game's rules.
 
You're not the military of the Empire. If you were this would be considered as a breach of the cease fire and the Federation would proceed to kick your ass.

You're a little militia under a very undiplomatic Lord Commander at best. :)

I disagree. We are the player military of the Empire for the following reasons:

1) We say we are, and we act like we are. Our RoE, our RP... it's all done as the Imperial military.
2) We are recognized as the player sword and shield of the Empire by other Imperial groups. Prismatic Imperium, Aisling's Angels, Achenar Immortals, White Templars, Lavigny's Legion... all Imperial player groups that recognize us and respect our contribution to the game. Non-Imperial groups know us and recognize us as such as well... CODE, SDC, Adle's Armada, RSM, ToC, BBFA, UGC, CNTL.... all groups that know us and know what we do and recognize us as such.
3) No one else is claiming to be the Imperial military, and no group could dislodge us as such.

If I'm not mistaken, the foundation of this game was to blaze your own trail; to carve out your part in the Galaxy. True, I did not start the 13th Legion, but I have been its leader for the better part of a year. Blazing my own trail was making our group the Empire player military, and for all intents and purposes, that's what I have done (but not without the help of so many 13th members along the way... they truly are an awesome group!).
 
Most ppl forget that the game was designed around the 3 modes, and not around open only. The rules were made way before, so why are we still - after a couple of years - discussing it.

New people buying without any research trying to turn elite into something else because they dont understand they bought something different to the other space games.
Valkrie is being made I don't understand their need to try and break elite on the way out
 
There are people in life who plod along without a grand scheme, and then there are people who want to make the biggest impact in life that they can. In the microcosm of this video game, you are obviously the former and I am the latter. It doesn't make either of us better or worse than the other. My point was simply that I appreciate that my group effects the story in the game. This isn't the first (and won't be the last) time that we have had a definite impact in the game. You're free to play the game as you see fit obviously, but for me, I like to know that my efforts are felt in the storyline. I mean seriously, how cool is that? One of the reasons I love this game.

Ah, the folly of the attention seeking humanoid.
Sometimes, you can gain too much.
 
I disagree. We are the player military of the Empire for the following reasons:

1) We say we are, and we act like we are. Our RoE, our RP... it's all done as the Imperial military.
2) We are recognized as the player sword and shield of the Empire by other Imperial groups. Prismatic Imperium, Aisling's Angels, Achenar Immortals, White Templars, Lavigny's Legion... all Imperial player groups that recognize us and respect our contribution to the game. Non-Imperial groups know us and recognize us as such as well... CODE, SDC, Adle's Armada, RSM, ToC, BBFA, UGC, CNTL.... all groups that know us and know what we do and recognize us as such.
3) No one else is claiming to be the Imperial military, and no group could dislodge us as such.

If I'm not mistaken, the foundation of this game was to blaze your own trail; to carve out your part in the Galaxy. True, I did not start the 13th Legion, but I have been its leader for the better part of a year. Blazing my own trail was making our group the Empire player military, and for all intents and purposes, that's what I have done (but not without the help of so many 13th members along the way... they truly are an awesome group!).

You're not the imperial player military for one simple reason: You don't act on behalf of the empire. You neither have an official order from the imperial high command nor have your actions any consequences on the relation of the Empire and the Federation.
Every commander of a usual military unit would be expelled from his position after pulling a stunt like that. If you take into consideration that you not only provoked a direct conflict with the federal navy but also broke the cease fire.

Besides, if you insist on RPing. It's incredible easy to explain the removing of the lockdown state in terms of lore. That probably only took a single call from an admiral of the Federation to one of the top brass on Ramsbottom. A lockdown is unlike a war, civil war or a famine a measure to get crime in a system under control and thus executed by the controlling faction of the system.
 
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I see you cherry picked and highlighted there.

Do you concede now that the two (ie the legion and the imperium) are unconnected?

The website of Prismatic Imperium claims at this moment that the 13th Legion is their PvP wing. The OP and Nightshady are still mentioned on their memberlist. But hey, I'm sure that means nothing, too.

By the way, do you think it matters? You see, isn't roflstomping a potentially innocent player group for some made-up reason exactly what the emergent content crew is into? Or does it depend on who does the stomping and who is being stomped on? I'm no expert on the matter, so feel free to educate me. :)

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*ruffles Shady's hair*

Sure you are little feller :)

Guys, if Shady wants to act as if he's the leader of an important Impie Military, why not let him?

Fine by me. Shall we pretend he had any impact in-game as well? :)
 
*ruffles Shady's hair*

Sure you are little feller :)

Guys, if Shady wants to act as if he's the leader of an important Impie Military, why not let him?

Perception is reality my friend. I have been leading Imperials in PvP combat for well over a year now.

New Caribbean Pirate Wars
34 Pegasi Wars
Imperial Coalition against Felicia Winters
Numerous system blockades
Numerous CG defenses
Imperial system defenses
Federation capitols system strikes

I've trained or helped train close to one hundred Imperial pilots in the arts of PvP combat. I was a member of the Prismatic Council; a member of the Imperial High Command. I have player group leaders reach out to me for various reasons on a routine basis.

I'm not saying this makes me the greatest, nor am I saying it means jack squat out of the confines of this video game. HOWEVER, it does give me ample credibility to claim that I am the leader of the player Imperial military. If it does not in your eyes... then who might make that claim?

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You're not the imperial player military for one simple reason: You don't act on behalf of the empire. You neither have an official order from the imperial high command nor have your actions any consequences on the relation of the Empire and the Federation.

As Lord Commander of the 13th Legion I was a member of the Imperial High Command. That group no longer exists though and none have formed to replace it, so I base the actions of our Imperial military on what I perceive an Imperial military would do. You say I don't act on behalf of the Empire? Who are *you* to claim such?
 
you going againt people wanting more player to player interaction is enough to prove that

@nightshady it's "Private [PvE, offline with friends] Group" in the same server cluster that has people playing in open who want to have player versus player interaction(and aggression towards the other player is not the only interaction. That's for the people calling everyone who wants more pvp a "griefer")

Can you explain how the offline bit works I am a little confused
 
As Lord Commander of the 13th Legion I was a member of the Imperial High Command. That group no longer exists though and none have formed to replace it, so I base the actions of our Imperial military on what I perceive an Imperial military would do. You say I don't act on behalf of the Empire? Who are *you* to claim such?

The secret godempress of the bubble. I can make those titels up, too. /s

And if you really think that that's how the empire would act during a cease fire then you have a lot to learn about how conflicts and diplomacy work.
 
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