Accrue such outcomes/results in two distinct totals. One for OPEN, and one for non-OPEN. Then combine them 60-40 for example. As such, ghost CMDRs can't overly sway outcomes...
My open letter to Fdev
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Accrue such outcomes/results in two distinct totals. One for OPEN, and one for non-OPEN. Then combine them 60-40 for example. As such, ghost CMDRs can't overly sway outcomes...
I must say, it's quite interesting to watch all of this develop from a neutral pirate's perspective.
Usually, my approach would be "let both factions weaken each others' resolve, and then we will swoop in and clean the field"..
But now there are those creepy rumors about Aliens singing across the cosmos, grabbing commanders and disabling their systems....Very Game of Thrones-y.
Usually, my approach would be "let both factions weaken each others' resolve, and then we will swoop in and clean the field"..
But now there are those creepy rumors about Aliens singing across the cosmos, grabbing commanders and disabling their systems....Very Game of Thrones-y.
"I am a ranking member of the Empire's 13th Legion."
Pilate: Vewy well! I shall welease Woger!
Guard: *chuckles in the background*
Pilate: Vewy well! I shall welease Woger!
Guard: *chuckles in the background*
Now I'm not a native speaker of the english language but as far as I can tell nothing in the words "Community Goal" suggests opposition, quite the contrary in fact so I'm not sure what the confusion is all about.
What I think might have happend is that Frontier tried to progress their story through a Community Goal and was confronted by a group of malcontents throwing a spanner in the works, they then ended the CG and repaired the damage.
As far as 13th legions actions in Mobius: They were well aware they were attacking people who couldn't defend themselves unless they were preparded to break the rules as well and by doing so they disqualified themselves from the discussion. Someone mentioned civil disobidience but that would have been to go into Mobius with a group land at the target station and just sit on the pads blocking access the invasion of Mobius (yet again!) went beyond that.
However, while I am a horrible person I may have a suggestion that would make this all go away. I never bothered to find out how community goals worked but I assumed from what I read on the forum it was about two sides trying to accomplish opposing goals through both PvE and PvP. Aparrently I was wrong.
Every faction oriented Community Goal has a counter Goal (or two) however it will be like for like. In other words PvE goals are opposed by PvE goals and PvP ones by PvP that way we can avoid these types of conflicts in the future.
What I think might have happend is that Frontier tried to progress their story through a Community Goal and was confronted by a group of malcontents throwing a spanner in the works, they then ended the CG and repaired the damage.
As far as 13th legions actions in Mobius: They were well aware they were attacking people who couldn't defend themselves unless they were preparded to break the rules as well and by doing so they disqualified themselves from the discussion. Someone mentioned civil disobidience but that would have been to go into Mobius with a group land at the target station and just sit on the pads blocking access the invasion of Mobius (yet again!) went beyond that.
However, while I am a horrible person I may have a suggestion that would make this all go away. I never bothered to find out how community goals worked but I assumed from what I read on the forum it was about two sides trying to accomplish opposing goals through both PvE and PvP. Aparrently I was wrong.
Every faction oriented Community Goal has a counter Goal (or two) however it will be like for like. In other words PvE goals are opposed by PvE goals and PvP ones by PvP that way we can avoid these types of conflicts in the future.
Uh huh, this was my reaction, too
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not really a surprise given they are NOT ALLOWED to fire back... sure some do, but if they are not recording then all it would take would be for you to submit a video of them shooting and they get booted... which given you have already shown the kind of person you are by invading a group and deliberately griefing then it is not a huge leap to think you would lie to get the victim booted from their private group.
You may not like the modes affecting the BGS but they are allowed.... therefore you and people like you are griefing prats. Mobius exists because FD have not introduced the multiple different open modes with different rules as outlined in the kickstarter.
any other time i would totally be with you on that being not on.. however when you are self confessed griefers going into private groups and deliberately breaking the rules, then frankly i find your complains laughable.
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player run blockades were NEVER meant to be a forced part of the game, as confirmed by the devs themselves.
any blockades by players was meant to be done in open for those who want them, and the devs themselves suggested if you are not interested in them go into private to get by them and then back into open if you chose.
any sanctioned blockade would be handled by frontier and conducted by the AI, as per the design.
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1. The OP should of put this in the OGS monster thread.
2. All the claims that this was about the CG have been cast into doubt.
3. Because the reason given by this 'ranking member' is that it was a protest about CG's being done in a mode where they can't get their jollies.
While I applaud the actions to use the BGS to stop the CG I do not agree with how you acted towards the Mobius players nor do I, as a mainly solo player, appreciate you even thinking you can tell me how to play the game.
OP has turned what at first appeared to be a good thing into a dirty thing.
2. All the claims that this was about the CG have been cast into doubt.
3. Because the reason given by this 'ranking member' is that it was a protest about CG's being done in a mode where they can't get their jollies.
While I applaud the actions to use the BGS to stop the CG I do not agree with how you acted towards the Mobius players nor do I, as a mainly solo player, appreciate you even thinking you can tell me how to play the game.
OP has turned what at first appeared to be a good thing into a dirty thing.
Ha, yeah, its a common thing among the 'emergent content' folks: being ridiculously pompous. 13th Legion, that 'Earth Defence Fleet' or something guy, SDC: they all spend a lot of time on trying to look like Important People.
"Look at me, I am a Big Boy! I invented a title for myself that says I am cool! Please say I am cool, please? If not I'm going to shoot at your spaceship until you admit I am a very important person! Wait, where did he go? FD PLEASE REMOVE SOLO MODE!!!!"
two wrongs do not make a right (while I agree with your blockade I do not agree with infiltrating private groups) ...... when are fdev going to actually do something about cmdrs who break the rules
somebody mentioned earlier that this is only coming from a select group of zealots..... time for a culling me thinks
somebody mentioned earlier that this is only coming from a select group of zealots..... time for a culling me thinks
They are already banning them.
Not sure yet if its temp or permanent (temp seems fine for now, just to make it clear this crap is not allowed any more), but they are taking action.Craith
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I am a member of Mobius, played only in Open for the last weeks. I didn't take part in the CG, since I didn't agree with its goal. Still, I now contemplate to take part, due to the invasion of certain players. But I won't, since its better to ignore such subjects, I don't want to sink to their level of doing something just to spite them. Also, I enjoy my current endeavors quite a bit. Still, they did their super power no favor with that, and their "reason" for invading is taken for what it is, an excuse.
Task Force Athena did a great job, they have my deepest respect for their dedication and their good idea. Had the 13th legion not done their childish invasion, I'd applaud their effort to. But invading a private group, out of game lying about ones intent, in that moment all respect is lost. Just because FD can't enforce a groups rules doesn't mean it is ok to break them. I have no idea how it is possible to get confused over that, but apparently it is a problem for some to wrap their head around.
Concerning community goals - there were quite a few that really put the COMMUNITY to the front. And not by shooting them down.
Disclaimer: I have nothing against well justified PvP, especially piracy is one of the things I miss when playing in Mobius. It's just that a single bad encounter sours it more than I get to gain from pirates and enemy faction players. Something kills PvP in this game, but it is not PGs or Solo. Just something to think about.
Task Force Athena did a great job, they have my deepest respect for their dedication and their good idea. Had the 13th legion not done their childish invasion, I'd applaud their effort to. But invading a private group, out of game lying about ones intent, in that moment all respect is lost. Just because FD can't enforce a groups rules doesn't mean it is ok to break them. I have no idea how it is possible to get confused over that, but apparently it is a problem for some to wrap their head around.
Concerning community goals - there were quite a few that really put the COMMUNITY to the front. And not by shooting them down.
Disclaimer: I have nothing against well justified PvP, especially piracy is one of the things I miss when playing in Mobius. It's just that a single bad encounter sours it more than I get to gain from pirates and enemy faction players. Something kills PvP in this game, but it is not PGs or Solo. Just something to think about.
Thanks for bringing this CG to my attention. I have now started delivering Power Generators to which I have a warehouse full.
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Goose4291
Banned
They are already banning them.
Link? The only time bannings have mentioned was when Nightshady said he'd been removed from Mobius, not a Frontier issued ban
Everything else I've seen has been unsubstantiated declarations by those players calling out for their heads
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Guess what, the Elite Dangerous community does not only consist of players you can shoot, groups you can invade or 'opposing CG's'. On any, and I mean ANY game the community is made up of the entire player base, even in MMO's, the community is not restricted to those only on your server that you can see and interact with, all servers, all players in these MMO's, be them on RP, PVP or PVE servers ALL make up the community.
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I couldn't disagree more with this!
Why should people be forced into playing the game the way frontier choose by only giving them one option for opposing the CG.
I strongly agree with the OP. If CMDRs want to play in a universe where their interactions effect others, then they should accept that others actions, that ever they (not frontier) choose them to be, will effect them. In particular the C in CG is Community - the whole community (love em or hate em) - it's not a Just My Mates And How I Want To Play The Game Goal.
Really this all stems from the screw-up over a Offline mode for this game. As originally anticipated, the game should have only two modes. Online, or Offline (which could be multiplayer).
Avago Earo
Banned
They are already banning them.
Sleutelbos, can you point out to me where to find this? Cheers.
Others are probably like me...
When someone is trying very hard to make a complete idiot of themselves, why not help
Cheers Cmdrs
Out of interest how many separate Mobius players did they Kill or see at the CG? Cause I certainly didn't bother with it and alot of the Mobius players I talk to are Empire or Neutral aligned and didn't go to the CG at all. So I bet there was more players in solo and their own private groups doing the CG than Mobius. You hit Mobius only cause you know it is impossible to vet each player that requests to join and would be allowed in on trust.
Also note that just because there is no counter doesn't mean there should be a counter for every CG. Not everything the FEDs do are of the interest of the Empire and vice versa.
Maybe there are certain CG's that are meant to succeed as they progress a story line and its just a filler CG for the next fork in the story line. Its FDevs game you are along for the ride.
As for breaking EULA, yes you did, was made clear after SDC. Hypocritical of you to call them terrorists for the exact same thing with the same lame excuse for it.
Also note that just because there is no counter doesn't mean there should be a counter for every CG. Not everything the FEDs do are of the interest of the Empire and vice versa.
Maybe there are certain CG's that are meant to succeed as they progress a story line and its just a filler CG for the next fork in the story line. Its FDevs game you are along for the ride.
As for breaking EULA, yes you did, was made clear after SDC. Hypocritical of you to call them terrorists for the exact same thing with the same lame excuse for it.
Do you not see how wrong it is to 'take out' their home system without giving them a chance to protect it? Which they can't do if you are in private/solo. The OP is right, the Open/PG/Solo system is just broken with CGs and powerplay.
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