I don't Play in Open, I don't do CG's and I don't do Power Play, where do I fit into this [???]
My open letter to Fdev
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You fit into the game. You blaze your own trail and do as you wish. Nothing wrong about that.
If you love freedom and hate slavers, the Alliance needs you.
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Let me just say, bait-and-switch and leave it at that. Now I feel much better! Do you have anymore Ethgrezian Bud going?
There are all kinds of MMOs. All are valid entities.
In our game it is not so much 'safe zones" but civilized areas that are patrolled by local security forces.
This isn't COD (thank goodness for that) and that's not what happens in E: D.
CMDRs get killed all the time by Wanteds and rival faction members, both the NPC and CMDR type.
Wanted CMDRs also fall prey to bounty hunters and NPC security.
o7
PGs and Solo are not "safe zones"... and to describe them as such is rather insulting and shows how much you do not understand about ED. This isn't a game were those with the biggest e-peen wins. It is a game of multiple styles of play and the realistic thought that others who play would respect that. Sadly some who PVP cannot do so. This is not Eve, this is not COD, this is not any of those types of games.. so quit trying to make it into one.
Let me just say, bait-and-switch and leave it at that. Now I feel much better! Do you have anymore Ethgrezian Bud going?
Hells yes. Ethgreze will only sell you a couple of tons at a time so ....
I'm usually in the Slainte Pub at Dublin Citadel in Gateway on the weekends.
If you don't see me, ask Siobhan our awesome bartender where Mahon's table is. I'm the heavily tattooed guy sitting beside the bong.
Please excuse my heavy Ulster accent eh.
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I think you give them too much credit. They know exactly what Mobius is about, they was an avid poster on SDC/Mobius threads calling SDC terrorists for the exact same thing they did last Friday. There are more people in their smaller private groups and solo influencing the CGs than Mobius as a whole. 13th are just hypocritical griefers who try to use their Psudo Empire afiiliation to justify their actions. Most of the Mobius players I talk to on a regular basis are more empire/ independent aligned and didn't take part in the CG as they are doing their own things (mostly engineering based).
If Mobius was such a player base force then Fdev would seriously be looking towards the game style those in Mobius want and catering to them as we would be where the money is for future seasons and attracting our like minded friends to make a purchase.
Are You rly saying that you don't had knowledge (clue) about PvP mobius group rules part? ...
... please continue it's going better and better ... ***where is my popcorn, need some more ... its so funny watch this thread***
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The closest ED has come to COD is CQC Aweena. HAHA see what I did there ?
I agree.
You have to remember that your average PvP Pew-Pew group is only capable of comprehending other PvP Pew-Pew groups. The whole idea of a group that exists in numbers larger than their own, can only mean that that group purely exists to detriment them. No other solution is possible.
These poor people just simply cannot comprehend that other people do not want to interact with them in their precious game time. They must all be hiding or running away in cowardice and fear from the might of the Great Pew-Pews, because these terrible game players simply do not know how to fight, or indeed how to react when some Great Almighty PvP Pro-Bro deploys hardpoints on them.
It's just entirely silly.
Players will join the groups they like to enjoy gameplay they like with other players who enjoy the same. Other players might be upset by that - but they can always counter by engaging in the BGS. Players too upset by events or circumstance to even bother with the BGS, and engage player groups in gameplay against their will by deception and force, well - it doesn't look too good for them
Force in computer games is only ever exerted by players. And when they run your instance, well, just be nice to them
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The cancer is only because certain idiots choose go go into private groups and deliberately grief players who know the victims can't fight back or risk getting kicked out.
Now this is partly FDs fault because they have failed to give players the advertised open modes with different rules and instead given private groups with no option to set up clear rules to stop abuse but fgs we are meant to be more intelligent than animals and it should not really need hard rules for players to respect those who want to play the game as advertised without direct player conflict for a whole host of reasons.
On the EULA no .... so long as no one circumvented a Möbius ban by setting up a new account no rules have been broken. FD have said that whilst they think players doing this are low and those actions are not wanted or condoned by them there is not a lot they can do about it... but if they circumvent a ban they WILL. The problem again is tools. How can Möbius know that banned Cmdr x has now changed his name to Cmdr y?
At the very least private groups should be able to account ban.
The CG was rubbish with no way to counter it. If not for the griefing I would congratulate the 13th for thinking out of the box but as it is, in my book you are scum and a blight on the game.
If a player did not like the 3 groups or the ability to affect the bgs... if they did not like that the MP conflict which is rewarded in the game is pve stuff then they were a fool for buying the game. I do not try to change eve or SC just because I personally do not like their core features.
In the case of eve I move on and in the case of SC I have took a punt and will put up with it. I can't wait till sc comes out and maybe some will actually play a game suited to forcing pvp.
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nonsense, why must every CG have a counter?
are you honestly saying you did not know mobius was a PvE group where outside of CZs direct combat is banned?
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fair point but I can at least see an argument for those feeling the CG was against their "RP" and who may have wanted to do something to fight it....
The problem with their RP is: Why should it be more important than FDevs official storyline?
They made clever use of the BGS and justified it with their RP. FDev simply countered that action by manipulating the BGS in an absolutely legit way in terms of lore/RP.
The thing is that the 13th complains about FDev stomping over their RP, but fail to see that they tried to stomp over FDevs 'RP' in the first place.
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Hi.
I've been following this spectacle for some time. Colour me surprised that it's gone on for as long as it has, but I'm sure there's a reason for it.
On the topic of shutting down a Community Goal, and the RP associated with it. Perhaps anyone would like to pick apart the language used in the recent PC PowerPlay interview by James Swinbanks, dated July 13 2016. Where Michael Brookes describes community goals as being "[...]one of our principal decisions and convergence points for players."
The atmosphere here has appeared a bit caustic. This is a drive-by post.
I've been following this spectacle for some time. Colour me surprised that it's gone on for as long as it has, but I'm sure there's a reason for it.
On the topic of shutting down a Community Goal, and the RP associated with it. Perhaps anyone would like to pick apart the language used in the recent PC PowerPlay interview by James Swinbanks, dated July 13 2016. Where Michael Brookes describes community goals as being "[...]one of our principal decisions and convergence points for players."
PCPP said:
MB said:
The atmosphere here has appeared a bit caustic. This is a drive-by post.
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Why should they just play the game the way you want? Why can't they have the opportunity to defend their home system not by doing missions, but by attacking and stopping people who are working against them. Solo and PG basically force people into playing the game a certain way - hardly the freedom E: D promised...
Technically speaking, thats the point of INRA ofcourse.
More seriously, that statement from MB only made explicit what was inevitable anyway: FD reserves the right to take the ED story wherever they want it to go, even if it ibevitably conflicts with some 20+ year old lore. Seriously doubt they mean there is no inra/thargoids etc, but more that some major storylines in ED may clash with minor stuff from the past. Just to be clear to the Formadine/UA guys. 
if the CG is a main-story one that happens to be Federation creating their station in Empire space, Fdev should disable lockdowns/any state-changes in the bgs for that system or write the flavour text so RP guys will know that it's approved by the Empire
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