New Regions – Why not use the ones already established by the exploration community?

'Thank you' letter to FD: Feedback on the region names in beta

Greetings all - and thank you for your continued support to integrate community region names into the game.

After taking a few days to reflect on the implementation of region names in the beta, the mapping team sent the following letter to FD last week:





To the ED Dev Team

First of all – thank you for taking the time to consider our proposal to integrate the established community region names in the 3.3 update. The inclusion of these names helps bridge existing exploration community narrative and shared player history into the greater narrative of the game. Thank you for doing this. We won’t deny that we were surprised to see many new names introduced instead of community names, but also acknowledge that there are probably various technical, legal, and narrative reasons why this had to be.
Looking at the map of regions in 3.3 beta we have a few suggestions that we hope you will have time to consider before the new regions are introduced on the live server:


Outer Orion-Perseus Conflux => Orion-Perseus Conflux
Inner Orion-Perseus Conflux => New Name

Motivation:
The name Outer Orion-Perseus Conflux is a bit cumbersome and doesn´t exactly roll off the tongue. We suggest simplifying this by using the name Orion-Perseus Conflux for this region instead and renaming the current Inner Orion-Perseus Conflux to something else entirely.



Xibalba => The Perseus Fade

Motivation:
One of the first regions to be named by players The Perseus Fade has a long history as a region where rim-travellers and circumnavigators have pushed ever further out towards the limits of the galaxy. The name is also evocative and intuitive as it captures the sense of the galactic arms fading away. If there was only a single additional community named region we could hope you would reconsider integrating into the live game The Perseus Fade would be it.




Outer Orion Spur => Orion Spur Shallows
Inner Orion Spur => The Orion Spur

Motivation:
Another case of names that could be changed to work without the “Inner” / “Outer” qualifier. The Orion Spur is an iconic name known by many as the location of Sol, so using this on the map would provide an intuitive meaning for many players, while Orion Spur Shallows is another of the earliest player named regions. The name aptly describes how star density in this part of the spur is more shallow than in the Orion Spur proper.


Hieronymus Delta => Abyssal Plain

Motivation:
The name Abyssal Plain is derived from the fact that this is a region bordering The Abyss. It was named such by some of the first visitors scouting the distant stretches of the Scutum-Centaturus Arm and the name has caught on since then. A name that invokes the perils of exploration, the dangers of going into the utter blackness alone and ill prepared…

Sincerely

The Galactic Mapping Team




So that was the letter we sent last week. We wanted to keep it short, since devs are busy people, but we would also like to share our thoughts behind the letter with you who have supported this thread and the GMP.

First of all we consider it a tip of the hat towards the GMP community project that FD includes even some of the player suggested names. Any region name from the GMP that makes it into the live game is an acknowledgement towards all who have contributed POIs, regions, updates, coding, mapping assistance or third-party integration of GMP names in their own maps or videos.

At the same time we were surprised that FD felt the need to introduce so many new names. We never expected all the GMP names to be accepted, but had hoped to see a few more. Thus we decided to make a limited number of suggestions. The Perseus Fade, Abyssal Plain and Orion Spur Shallows were chosen to be featured in the letter due to them being 1) among the first player submitted regions, thus having the longest and richest history, 2) compatible with the english names FD has used for their own naming scheme.

With this letter we feel we have done what we can to represent the best interests of the GMP community project towards FD. Even though we serve as custodians of the GMP, we feel that this is a project that belong to all explorers. Now we can only hope that FD takes these suggestions into consideration.


All the best

The GMP Team
 
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I take it you sent this before Beta 3, no?
In any case, two of your four (or well, three, since one didn't include a specific name) suggestions aren't very good. Having "Orion Spur" and "Orion Spur Shallows" would imply that the latter is a sub-region of the former, and not two equal regions. Same goes for "The Abyss" and "Abyssal Plain".

Personally, I think the official "Inner Orion Spur" and "Outer Orion Spur" region names are better, since the inner part signifies the bubble, while the outer one the fact that it's still the same galactic region.
 
Xibalba => The Perseus Fade

This one alone I think would be a very good adjustment, even if none of the others are adopted. Xibalba is a very esoteric name, as such, whereas "Perseus Fade" flows nicely with the other names and will be easier for players to understand, while conveying the sense that the arms are fading out here.
 
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(The new regions)
When I heard about region naming in the expansion, I automatically assumed the mapping project's rich work to have been used.
So it hasn't? What a missed chance.

Xibalba is a very esoteric name, as such, whereas "Perseus Fade" flows nicely with the other names and will be easier for players to understand, while conveying the sense that the arms are fading out here.

Wasn't that some comic relief character from a Star Wars movie?
 
/Signed, whichever version of proposals the GMP team think are most plausible, honour the efforts of landmark expeditions the most and evocative.

o7, and I am very excited to explore, as it were,t his aspect of exploration however it's precisely named by release
 
+1 for The Perseus Fade.

That said, I'm not sure about the others. marx has some good points on why the suggested community names might not be the best idea.
 
I will agree that I would like the Perseus Fade name to be applied, although I have a personal motive in that.

One of my favorite personal discoveries, Perseus Deep, is located in that area.
 
We agree on something at last. I think FDev have done pretty well with the names. There could be a few that could be better, but on the whole it's much better then numbers.

I think anyone complaining about it excessively is being a bit pedantic to be honest.

I thought so too. Not all the names could be used, but some significant community names are, which is a nice acknowledgement by Fdev.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
Greetings all - and thank you for your continued support to integrate community region names into the game.

After taking a few days to reflect on the implementation of region names in the beta, the mapping team sent the following letter to FD last week:





To the ED Dev Team

First of all – thank you for taking the time to consider our proposal to integrate the established community region names in the 3.3 update. The inclusion of these names helps bridge existing exploration community narrative and shared player history into the greater narrative of the game. Thank you for doing this. We won’t deny that we were surprised to see many new names introduced instead of community names, but also acknowledge that there are probably various technical, legal, and narrative reasons why this had to be.
Looking at the map of regions in 3.3 beta we have a few suggestions that we hope you will have time to consider before the new regions are introduced on the live server:


Outer Orion-Perseus Conflux => Orion-Perseus Conflux
Inner Orion-Perseus Conflux => New Name

Motivation:
The name Outer Orion-Perseus Conflux is a bit cumbersome and doesn´t exactly roll off the tongue. We suggest simplifying this by using the name Orion-Perseus Conflux for this region instead and renaming the current Inner Orion-Perseus Conflux to something else entirely.


Xibalba => The Perseus Fade

Motivation:
One of the first regions to be named by players The Perseus Fade has a long history as a region where rim-travellers and circumnavigators have pushed ever further out towards the limits of the galaxy. The name is also evocative and intuitive as it captures the sense of the galactic arms fading away. If there was only a single additional community named region we could hope you would reconsider integrating into the live game The Perseus Fade would be it.



Outer Orion Spur => Orion Spur Shallows
Inner Orion Spur => The Orion Spur

Motivation:
Another case of names that could be changed to work without the “Inner” / “Outer” qualifier. The Orion Spur is an iconic name known by many as the location of Sol, so using this on the map would provide an intuitive meaning for many players, while Orion Spur Shallows is another of the earliest player named regions. The name aptly describes how star density in this part of the spur is more shallow than in the Orion Spur proper.

Hieronymus Delta => Abyssal Plain

Motivation:
The name Abyssal Plain is derived from the fact that this is a region bordering The Abyss. It was named such by some of the first visitors scouting the distant stretches of the Scutum-Centaturus Arm and the name has caught on since then. A name that invokes the perils of exploration, the dangers of going into the utter blackness alone and ill prepared…

Sincerely

The Galactic Mapping Team




So that was the letter we sent last week. We wanted to keep it short, since devs are busy people, but we would also like to share our thoughts behind the letter with you who have supported this thread and the GMP.

First of all we consider it a tip of the hat towards the GMP community project that FD includes even some of the player suggested names. Any region name from the GMP that makes it into the live game is an acknowledgement towards all who have contributed POIs, regions, updates, coding, mapping assistance or third-party integration of GMP names in their own maps or videos.

At the same time we were surprised that FD felt the need to introduce so many new names. We never expected all the GMP names to be accepted, but had hoped to see a few more. Thus we decided to make a limited number of suggestions. The Perseus Fade, Abyssal Plain and Orion Spur Shallows were chosen to be featured in the letter due to them being 1) among the first player submitted regions, thus having the longest and richest history, 2) compatible with the english names FD has used for their own naming scheme.

With this letter we feel we have done what we can to represent the best interests of the GMP community project towards FD. Even though we serve as custodians of the GMP, we feel that this is a project that belong to all explorers. Now we can only hope that FD takes these suggestions into consideration.


All the best

The GMP Team

I'd love to see all of those changes implemented. Particularly the Abyssal Plain. Seeing that region of space called something else on the beta gal map just feels wrong to me!
 
I'll sign it as well if I haven't already. I don't feel like having to go all over the galaxy again to hit all the new sectors as I have with the current EDSM ones...
 
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