New ship: Panther Clipper

[Rubbernuke]

And He shall receive.

A sacrifice I am willing to make

Well I'm just glad you are happy after all this time.

 

[Cosmo]

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Credit to @sinkarma for the T9 3d model posted on page 5 of this thread.

Here's a quick and dirty overlay of the T9 aligning and scaling to the fighterbay and cargo scoop. About the same width as the T9 but longer.

The PC Mk II is about the same width and a bit longer than the Type-9. It doesn't cover the whole length of a large landing pad which is disappointing. Cargo capacity could be a bit more than the Type-9, but not 1.5x or double.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Original has payload of 2100tons i expect no less from MkII

As I understand it the original payload included all of what are now termed "Core Internals" - which for the Cutter is 528t (for A-rated modules), so I expect this to increase for the Panther Clipper Mk II.

 

[Robert Maynard]

The PC Mk II is about the same width and a bit longer than the Type-9. It doesn't cover the whole length of a large landing pad which is disappointing. Cargo capacity could be a bit more than the Type-9, but not 1.5x or double.

.... and when compared to the Cutter, which can carry about the same quantity of cargo in a much more slender hull?

 

[Bigmaec]

.... and when compared to the Cutter, which can carry about the same quantity of cargo in a much more slender hull?

Ships in Elite make no sense, news at eleven.
So go for 2000 FD

 

[Rat Catcher]

But you know it will be. Those Colonies aren't going to build themselves.

Indeed they won't...

But this is FD, and the word is "Balance", allegedly.

It will likely carry just a little more than a T9 / Cutter stripped out to just haul (for balance, of course)
Be slower than the T9 (see above)
Have a massively under-rated PP / Distro (same)

Unlikely to be anything even approaching the beast it was in the earlier games, to save the inevitable complaints of being OP or P2W on release...

 

[SergMx]

Looking at my "not in the next system" trade Cutter build, it can shift 688t of cargo c.200 LY without refuelling (five jumps); 40.35LY fully laden, with the return (no cargo) taking only 4 jumps. Put differently it's c.76t of cargo delivered "per jump" in the round trip.

If the cargo / (jumps per round trip) metric for the Panther Clipper Mk II is below that then it would be a less attractive option for middle distance trade. In the completely speculative estimate I posted earlier the 2000t of cargo would take 8 jumps out and 5 jumps back, so the metric would be 154t per jump. Also noting that the fully laden example would be able to do 13 jumps without refuelling, a total of c.340LY.

Which leads me to suspect that my 2,000t cargo capacity guess is a bit on the high side.

I don't know. I personally have never taken more than 3 jumps, in other cases we just take FC.
More cargo at one time is a big + for loading and unloading the FC.

 

[Hamset]

Original has payload of 2100tons i expect no less from MkII

Same here, at 2000t or more I buy it in ARX, less than 2000, I'll wait until it's available with credits.

 

[Shir]

For me there is a certain feel that the bigger ships like the T9, T10 have, that directly connects with all these movie scenes that depict huge ships traveling in deep space. When playing Elite to chill and relax, nothing better than flying a huge ship, deep into uncharted territory whether freighting or mining (or bounty hunting with the T10).

I suppose it should be able to land on carriers, because otherwise you can't work with all these systems that don't have a big landing pad. Don't see it feasible to create a new size of landing pad just for this ship, so big pad it probably is.

 

[Mr T]

It's me, or that 8 big black blocks seems like 8 class 8 ( maybe 9 ) cargo racks??
If they are class 8 , this could means 8*256 tons.... more than 2k tons in only those racks.....

Don't go using logic now. The ship will contain whatever FDev say it contains

 

[Kamiyoda]

Sad thing is now I have to give FD all the ARX they ask for, because I have to stay true to my words

Im hoping I have to give Rat Catcher a load of Platinum

Don't go using logic now. The ship will contain whatever FDev say it contains

A Cobra MkIV?!

 

[amigacooke]

Sad thing is now I have to give FD all the ARX they ask for, because I have to stay true to my words

Yes, but you can take up to 9 years doing it.

 

[tomalus]

1200t cargo without shield
+50% over a cutter/t9

its wide as the cutter,just chunkier

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Original has payload of 2100tons i expect no less from MkII

Mk2's don't always work like that. The Python Mk2 has less cargo space than the Mk1.

And has was noted earlier, ships in ED consistently have less cargo space than their Frontier/FFE versions.

 

[Robert Maynard]

I suppose it should be able to land on carriers, because otherwise you can't work with all these systems that don't have a big landing pad. Don't see it feasible to create a new size of landing pad just for this ship, so big pad it probably is.

The large landing pad can accommodate the Type-10 Defender; L=118.4m; B=135.1m; H=39.3m and the Beluga; L=209.11m; B=31.6m; H:38.6m; which gives a known hangar limit of L=209.11m; B=135.1m; H=39.3m. The docking port on a station is c.220m wide and c.50m high (in the middle; c.40m at the edges) - so it's bigger than the known limits of the hangar.

If all of the volume available in the hangar was ship then it'd have a volume of over 1,000,000m³. If the block coefficient of the ship (actual volume / LBH) is only 0.2 then there'd still be over 200,000m³ available for "stuff" - which would leave sufficient volume for several tens of thousands of units of cargo....

 

[Ozric]

MOD HAT WELL AND TRULY ON

It truly baffles me that people still think it's OK to go onto a game company's official forum, and post information obtained by hacking into the game files...

It's against forum rules, and the game's EULA. Just because "someone else did it" doesn't make it OK to spread it!


Also, let's not forget the most recent video doing the rounds saying it was going to be a medium ship because of datamined information, and how spectacularly wrong that was. If it's not official information, it doesn't belong here.

 

[DjVortex]

I never use the autodocking computer. It will be interesting to see how difficult it will be to land. Or even enter the mail slot.

 

[SergMx]

I never use the autodocking computer. It will be interesting to see how difficult it will be to land. Or even enter the mail slot.

Have you done this on a T10 or a Beluga?

 

[DjVortex]

Have you done this on a T10 or a Beluga?

I have done it a lot with the Type-9 and the Cutter, if that's any indication.

 

[Rock Hunter]

I never use the autodocking computer. It will be interesting to see how difficult it will be to land. Or even enter the mail slot.

I assumed this was why people were requesting it came with whiskers. A little help finding the edges.