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[harag]

We're running out of width pretty quick on the Trade window for more columns. I'll see if I can squeeze in there. Think you'll ever want to sort by age? If not we could almost stick the age in with the Commodity field.... so it would say "Imperial Slaves (5h)"

General notes eh? What would you want out of that... a big open field like notepad? Or do you need anything categorized or fancy with a Title and all that kind of stuff?

Age Columns - If you add the columns at the end wouldn't a horizontal scroll bar appear when needed? I don't think sorting by age would be needed as I would sort by profit then look at the age columns, sometimes I even risk going to the older ones and take slightly less profit, just to update the data

General Notes - At the moment I use notepad, but having a notepad thing within the app would be better as having a separate application open, and keeps it all within the cmdrs log theme. However what I would like is a better system where we would have a Subject & Note (plus date created?) so a list of subjects and when you select it, it displays the note, that way the notes can be put into different categories, e.g. "places to visit", "places to mine", "etc.". but the notes wouldn't be assigned to any system/station.

 

[harag]

Ok. For the numpad I'll have to grab my spare keyboard. Kinda surprised it didn't work.

Commodity details window doesn't stay put anymore? I must have missed utilizing the settings for that window when I moved everything over to settings.txt. I'll probably hotfix that since it's pretty annoying.

I've just downloaded v2.0c and tried the numpad in the cargo and min profit boxes and it worked fine for me with no problems. I wonder if (Forecaster) had his num lock turned on?

Commodity Details window not staying put?? Hmm again mine appear to be where I put them, even after closing and reopening the app. This is my current settings file:



Settings
{
mainTopPos = 124
mainLeftPos = -1144
commodityTopPos = 98
commodityLeftPos = 1052
tradeTopPos = 277
tradeLeftPos = -1199
commodityDetailTopPos = 43
commodityDetailLeftPos = 574
commodityHideSupply = 0
commodityHideDemand = 0
commodityHideNone = 0
commodityHideNotSet = 0
commodityHideIllegal = 0
tradeMinProfit = "0"
tradeCargoCapacity = "0"
tradeAutoSearch = 1
tradeSystemToSystem = 0
tradeShowUnkonwnProfit = 0
tradeShowHS = 1
tradeShowMS = 1
tradeShowLS = 1
tradeShowHD = 1
tradeShowMD = 1
tradeShowLD = 1
}

 

[harag]

Settings after moving various windows CommodityDetail info has updated correctly.


Settings
{
mainTopPos = 124
mainLeftPos = -1144
commodityTopPos = 134
commodityLeftPos = 1110
tradeTopPos = 325
tradeLeftPos = -1202
commodityDetailTopPos = 93
commodityDetailLeftPos = 164
commodityHideSupply = 0
commodityHideDemand = 0
commodityHideNone = 0
commodityHideNotSet = 0
commodityHideIllegal = 0
tradeMinProfit = "0"
tradeCargoCapacity = "0"
tradeAutoSearch = 1
tradeSystemToSystem = 0
tradeShowUnkonwnProfit = 0
tradeShowHS = 1
tradeShowMS = 1
tradeShowLS = 1
tradeShowHD = 1
tradeShowMD = 1
tradeShowLD = 1
}

 

[ArchV1]

All righty, I bet he just had an older version or something? I dunno.

 

[Forecaster]

About window definitely says 2.0c

The details window appear in the saved position, but then pops to the center of the main window.

The num-pad thing it seems I was mistaken, my num-pad sometimes do not work unless I hit the num-lock button first (num-lock is always on and the button is re-mapped to tab.) and I forgot to verify.

 

[Forecaster]

I encountered another "issue"!

I decided to run my log on my laptop to free up my second monitor for videos and such and wondered why the main window wasn't visible, until I figured out by minimizing/maximizing the window that it was still positioned outside the visible area where my second monitor was on my main computer.

The fix is obviously to reset the positions by removing them from the settings file.

Simple enough fix that the application probably don't need a test for this. Just thought I'd mention it anyway.

 

[Perjoss]

Would it be hard to add a grouping or tagging mechanic to the system list. Would work kind of like folders do in windows explorer, and the reason for having it is this: I have areas that I trade in, I have a small network of about 8 stations all the way on the edge of explored space that I trade between. Then I have another network of about 10 station that are around the center of Fed space. For now the way I keep these separate is by adding suffixes to the system names like [ee] for the stations near the edge of explored space and [fe] for the ones in Fed space.

When I'm trading in that area I will select the ones that I don't want to trade between and hide them. I feel that a folder system or some kind of tagging system would be great though for making it easy to hide groups of systems without having to give them suffixes. Would also be handy for selecting all the stations that have a black market easily. I hope I'm making sense, and great app, thanks!

 

[harag]

About window definitely says 2.0c

The details window appear in the saved position, but then pops to the center of the main window.

Hmm, so you're on the latest version, very strange, as I'm having no problem with the window positions. You say it appears in the saved position, so it sounds like it's loading right, then "pop" to the center of the main window. Can you explain in more detail?

When you say pop, is it instant after appearing in the saved position and you briefly see it? or is it later on while using the application. Can you reproduce the problem every time. If you change the settings file and set the top & left values to 10, then explain in detail exactly what happens.

Glad you sorted out the numlock problem

 

[harag]

Would it be hard to add a grouping or tagging mechanic to the system list. Would work kind of like folders do in windows explorer, and the reason for having it is this: I have areas that I trade in, I have a small network of about 8 stations all the way on the edge of explored space that I trade between. Then I have another network of about 10 station that are around the center of Fed space. For now the way I keep these separate is by adding suffixes to the system names like [ee] for the stations near the edge of explored space and [fe] for the ones in Fed space.

When I'm trading in that area I will select the ones that I don't want to trade between and hide them. I feel that a folder system or some kind of tagging system would be great though for making it easy to hide groups of systems without having to give them suffixes. Would also be handy for selecting all the stations that have a black market easily. I hope I'm making sense, and great app, thanks!

Hi

With the new custom fields added to version two, you can do this with a custom field (10 max). Click the "New Custom Field" button, type in the field label "Zone:" or whatever, and then select a field type.

e.g. You could use field type "Edit Drop List", and then in the box on the right, enter:

Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
etc.

Once set, you can then use the filter at the top of the screen to "search station data" and then type in the filter "Zone B".

 

[Forecaster]

Hmm, so you're on the latest version, very strange, as I'm having no problem with the window positions. You say it appears in the saved position, so it sounds like it's loading right, then "pop" to the center of the main window. Can you explain in more detail?

When you say pop, is it instant after appearing in the saved position and you briefly see it? or is it later on while using the application. Can you reproduce the problem every time. If you change the settings file and set the top & left values to 10, then explain in detail exactly what happens.

Glad you sorted out the numlock problem

The "num-lock problem" was human error on my side unfortunately. : P

As for the detail window, it appears in the saved spot, then after roughly a second it pops to the main window.

I had a suspicion it was DisplayFusion manipulating the window, but this doesn't happen on my laptop where I just installed DisplayFusion to get edge snapping.

I also tested moving the main window onto the same window, but it still happens.

No idea what's causing the issue.

 

[No3kins]

Bug.
Using the "Set all notset to none" option removes illegal flags.

Version:
64bit 2.0.C

Detail:
I work through inputting new market data by first marking the Illegal items as "Illegal" and then hiding them from view. Then I go and set the demands for each item that is present in the market at that station. Then I use the "Set all notset to none" option. This is when the bug happens. and finally I remove all "none" items from view before entering all the price info.

 

[Forecaster]

I reported this thing yesterday as well! It's true!

Except I used the num-pad to set something to "none" and this happened.

 

[ArchV1]

I reported this thing yesterday as well! It's true!

Except I used the num-pad to set something to "none" and this happened.

I'll check this stuff out but it will be tomorrow. Gonna spend some family time tonight

 

[Espege]

Beautiful, thank you!

 

[Abomination]

Thanks again mate. Just upgraded to the new version. The round-trip lookup is extremely useful.
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Question to you, or well, anyone actually:
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I've created a small program to import your data file and analyze all possible routes using two or more stations to see if there's more proft to be made.
So far, I've entered the data for the 22 stations I'd visited recently.
Strangely enough, the best result was a roundtrip between two.
All longer routes returned a lower average profit per trip (between undockign and docking, not counting the total jumps required to get there).
(I'm comparing averages so I can sort on the best route regardless of the length of that route)
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I've also downloaded the datafile from someone else which was posted on your previous thread.
That one had 18 stations I think, and the best route was also between just two stations.
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So, have any of you actually ever found a better trade route using more than two stations?

 

[ArchV1]

Thanks again mate. Just upgraded to the new version. The round-trip lookup is extremely useful.
-
Question to you, or well, anyone actually:
-
I've created a small program to import your data file and analyze all possible routes using two or more stations to see if there's more proft to be made.
So far, I've entered the data for the 22 stations I'd visited recently.
Strangely enough, the best result was a roundtrip between two.
All longer routes returned a lower average profit per trip (between undockign and docking, not counting the total jumps required to get there).
(I'm comparing averages so I can sort on the best route regardless of the length of that route)
-
I've also downloaded the datafile from someone else which was posted on your previous thread.
That one had 18 stations I think, and the best route was also between just two stations.
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So, have any of you actually ever found a better trade route using more than two stations?

I was thinking about your post while driving into work...

It IS possible to get a higher profit from a longer trip, but it's statistically very unlikely, and the more jumps in the trip, the more unlikely it becomes. There always seems to be this odd balance in Elite where between any two systems in a high profit round trip, one way is always a lot of credits, and come back is not nearly as much... so you'll see stuff like 5000 credits from A to B and 700 credits from B to A. Lemme see if I can come up with a higher profit on a 3 system trip...

(highest profit round trip, 5700)
A to B = 5000
B to A = 700

(second highest profit round trip, 5600)
B to C = 5000
C to B = 600

(third highest profit round trip, 5500)
A to C = 500
C to A = 5000

So with 3 jumps, on the highest round trip you could have 5000 + 700 + 5000 = 10,700
And 3 jumps A-B-C-A would be 5000 + 5000 + 5000 = 15,000

But it seems in Elite the numbers rarely if ever work out like that.

 

[Forecaster]

Any chance in the trade window you could add a "Set as From" option when right clicking an item in the trade search results that sets the "To Station" as the "From:" station?

Would speed up searching a little bit!

 

[harag]

Any chance in the trade window you could add a "Set as From" option when right clicking an item in the trade search results that sets the "To Station" as the "From:" station?

Would speed up searching a little bit!

Let me see if I get this right. You set a ONE WAY search from LAVE to ANYWHERE, it displays a load of info, you then select one of the rows and right click then select option "Set as From".

So in the list if I have a Lave to Reorte displayed, I right click on that, it changes search to "From Reorte, To Anywhere" - so in theory you are then looking for a jump from Reorte onwards.

This nicely leads onto me bringing up a "trade planner" idea again. What I would like to do is search for several routes and then add them to a planner (currently notepad). So My plan would be

Lave > Reorte - buy X at lave sell X at reorte
Reorte > Disc - buy X at reorte sell X as disc
Disc > Leesti - buy X at Disc, sell X as Leesti.

I do something like this as I'm also looking at missions where a station needs X goods (computer components) but if the station has a few of these different missions to collect goods from several other stations, I then look for trade routes between the stations to find the best profitable path.

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Bug.
Using the "Set all notset to none" option removes illegal flags.

Version:
64bit 2.0.C

Detail:
I work through inputting new market data by first marking the Illegal items as "Illegal" and then hiding them from view. Then I go and set the demands for each item that is present in the market at that station. Then I use the "Set all notset to none" option. This is when the bug happens. and finally I remove all "none" items from view before entering all the price info.

I've followed the above and confirm I get the same problem.

 

[Abomination]

So with 3 jumps, on the highest round trip you could have 5000 + 700 + 5000 = 10,700
And 3 jumps A-B-C-A would be 5000 + 5000 + 5000 = 15,000

But it seems in Elite the numbers rarely if ever work out like that.

Yeah, it really seems that way.
Oh well.. time to stroll around the galaxy and take notes about some other 100 or so stations before the sun rises again

 

[Forecaster]

Let me see if I get this right. You set a ONE WAY search from LAVE to ANYWHERE, it displays a load of info, you then select one of the rows and right click then select option "Set as From".

So in the list if I have a Lave to Reorte displayed, I right click on that, it changes search to "From Reorte, To Anywhere" - so in theory you are then looking for a jump from Reorte onwards.

Uh, yes. Pretty much just a right-click and click instead of having to go into the systems menu and look for the system/station I want which can take a bit of time with multiple systems with names like "LTT15574".

A more advanced route planner would be cool, but what I want right now is just this tiny convenience feature. : D