No Single Player offline Mode then?

[littleminxundr]

And there it is ... Thought that would come up eventually ... Didn't bother me in the slightest all they were trying to do is the same as Steam is currently doing.

I had the Xbox and the 360 and was a XBL afficionado. I sold all my MS stuff and went full on playstation, but oddly enough not because of the always online directly. I brought everything to the swapshop the moment Major Nelson said that going off-line couldn't be done, that he couldn't just flip a switch. Two days later, they flipped the switch.
I was then and there done with MS.

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

Wrong. You can play CS in LAN without any Internet connection.

Which the majority of people no longer do ... [redacted]

 

[jmga]

Which the majority of people no longer do ... [redacted]

The day Valve drop CS 1.6 support, people will still be able to play CS 1.6 online or LAN. The day FD drop support for E : D you would never be able to play again. [redacted]

 

[Stressfest]

Pretty sure FD as an entity have other fish in the fryer other than Elite. As per any business they just funnel money from one project to another... As mentioned before, If the worse case scenario happened I'm sure we wouldn't be left in the lurch. There are too many of us die hard supporters to let it lay down and die... Uggh, these threads are all so damn depressing.

 

[natte hond]

unfortunately it's unlikely that people 30 years from now can play Elite Dangerous.

that's the only thing about it that worries me.
David B. also promised the game will remain playable after the servers got switched off.
this seems very unlikely now.
at the same time I cant believe he would let his child die with the passing of time.

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

Open steam -> click steam menu -> go offline.
you only need to be online to actually register + install games.
unless said game is a multiplayer...and thinking you can do that offline is rather silly

So what about if you build a new computer and you need to reinstall? Even from a backup you will need to log in at some point.

Point being that at some point an internet connection is still required, even if it is just to install and register. So for people who don't have one what do they do? Are Steam discriminating against them/ Are people up in arms .. Nope ...

 

[stimutacs]

I had the Xbox and the 360 and was a XBL afficionado. I sold all my MS stuff and went full on playstation, but oddly enough not because of the always online directly. I brought everything to the swapshop the moment Major Nelson said that going off-line couldn't be done, that he couldn't just flip a switch. Two days later, they flipped the switch.
I was then and there done with MS.

Are people seriously bringing up always online xbone as ... a positive example?

Do people remember it getting murked pretty much out of the gate starting with

http://youtu.be/2_sK6v_zsqU

and ending somewhere around Adam Orth saying

http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/10/a...s-to-have-joined-the-ranks-of-the-jobseekers/

“why on earth would I live there?”

hyuk hyuk! Oh, didn't that work out well.

 

[Elmasri]

I think what is very disappointing is that the community manager and or customer services/relations manager have not posted any thread relating to issues like this...... , I recognize the fact that at FD HQ they are all working very hard, especially now they have a release date to hit!. But lack of communications is a very bad no!. I am not after secrets, and I am very sure that next week on the 22nd all will be revealed , but some sort of clarifaction on aspects of the game would be nice and courteous to its customers, after all without us this amazing game would be just a wet dream to most. I have enjoyed my testing of this game and don`t want to be be negative... but lack of response is no good to anyone .....

Search for the staff posts in this thread alone and you will see that they have posted over 30 times. That is not counting the other threads of a similar vein...

So how is that not posting?

 

[xxThe_Dice_manxx]

I just don't see them maintaining any sort of realistic revenue income without some sort of monthly type subscription service, be it mandatory or a sort of premium variant. Offline mode was the guarantee that wouldn't happen, and since it's gone, don't be surprised when ED goes to that kind of funding model.

And bring it on, I will gladly pay a sub for this game if it secures its future.

 

[Ydiss]

Maybe because a good game remains good for ever? There are still CS 1.6 championships, but I assume you end selling, burning or throwing away all your games and replacing them with new ones.

And with this we come full circle back to the original post that started by claiming the servers will be shut down after an arbitrarily plucked time frame.

Countless games are still supported online over a decade after initial release. No indication this will be any different.

This is as hypothetical as you can get. Not a single one of the games that I've played and loved, that require a connection to play at all, have shut down because the developer decided enough was enough.

That includes Everquest. Which is now free to play. And was released in 1999.

I know, I know. It's important we consider all the implications of this decision. Including the sky-might-fall scenarios.

Consider it noted.

Now, let's get back to the fact that an offline mode would demand the online aspect be ruined or ED would need to create and sustain two versions of every platform release.

No, thanks. I'll take the risk the developers might shut down to mess with us over that.

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

I had the Xbox and the 360 and was a XBL afficionado. I sold all my MS stuff and went full on playstation, but oddly enough not because of the always online directly. I brought everything to the swapshop the moment Major Nelson said that going off-line couldn't be done, that he couldn't just flip a switch. Two days later, they flipped the switch.
I was then and there done with MS.

So you gave up on Microsoft because ... what exactly ... ? Just to spit your face?

You don't trust them? And you went to Sony? I can't even trust them with my credit cards details.... (I do own Sony products btw before someone plays the fanboy card)

Same discussion as last year .. circular argument ... I dont know I am even responding as I said earlier I was done with this discussion ...

Now I am though ...

 

[jmga]

And bring it on, I will gladly pay a sub for this game if it secures its future.

If the game was drm free as they promised, there won't be needed any subscription because anyone would be able to host their one servers.

 

[littleminxundr]

Are people seriously bringing up always online xbone as ... a positive example?

Do people remember it getting murked pretty much out of the gate starting with

http://youtu.be/2_sK6v_zsqU

and ending somewhere around Adam Orth saying

http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/10/a...s-to-have-joined-the-ranks-of-the-jobseekers/

“why on earth would I live there?”

hyuk hyuk! Oh, didn't that work out well.

No, because of my personal situation I would've gone playstation anyway if Xbone had remained always online. The fact that Major Nelson, who was on my friendlist, I played games with and laughed with while shooting the breeze, took it upon himself to blatantly start lying about it all, that was for me the point to drop MS like so much dirt, even if the Xbone was now a logical upgrade for me.

That level of arrogance and appaling low point in treating customers for granted still gets my blood pumping. ROAR!

 

[Stressfest]

We've got an offline mode, it's sitting in the download section at FD now, called "Elite 84" I think... It's free to download so think of it as getting two games for the price of one That should put a spring back in everyones step!! lol

 

[Zenicetus]

I just don't see them maintaining any sort of realistic revenue income without some sort of monthly type subscription service, be it mandatory or a sort of premium variant. Offline mode was the guarantee that wouldn't happen, and since it's gone, don't be surprised when ED goes to that kind of funding model.

I disagree... I think if nothing else, FD has shown that it's good at cranking out content on a deadline. It may not be everything everyone wants, but the progress since early this year has been amazing. I'll bet they already have preliminary in-house versions of walking around inside and outside your ship, and the early planet landing tests.

Strategy game companies like Creative Assembly and Paradox do okay by selling expansions to their main titles after initial release. It's also a staple of air combat sims, which ED resembles very strongly. One or two $30-$40 expansions a year, plus assorted sales of ship skins and bobbleheads, can probably keep the lights on, if the player base is large enough and enthusiastic enough.

Also, just in marketing terms, I don't see how they could move to a monthly subscription while still offering the Solo Online mode, and allowing transfer between the other modes (which won't change). Why would a Solo Online player pay a monthly fee, when the data flow is so minuscule and they're not interacting with other players? I don't think FD has any options for monthly subscription as long as that's an official playing mode. And if you think things are hot now, imagine what would happen if they eliminated Solo Online as well.

 

[gravityztr]

That level of arrogance and appaling low point in treating customers for granted still gets my blood pumping. ROAR!

funny gal x-) !

 

[stimutacs]

No, because of my personal situation I would've gone playstation anyway if Xbone had remained always online. The fact that Major Nelson, who was on my friendlist, I played games with and laughed with while shooting the breeze, took it upon himself to blatantly start lying about it all, that was for me the point to drop MS like so much dirt, even if the Xbone was now a logical upgrade for me.

That level of arrogance and appaling low point in treating customers for granted still gets my blood pumping. ROAR!

Oh no, sorry, it was more "where are these people!?" and not something asking you if you were bringing it up as an exemplar

But yes, it's interesting to revisit it - the shifting explanations on what exactly the technical stumbling block would be, the capture-bonded people too invested in it to possibly imagine a different perspective, the arrogant dismissal of people's internet issues (didn't they launch Titanfall in australia with ... singaporean azure servers, giving everyone 100-200 ping as well? LOL?). And suddenly it became less and less of a technical stumbling block the more preorders were cancelled and the worse feedback from customers became. Strange that.

 

[xxThe_Dice_manxx]

I had the Xbox and the 360 and was a XBL afficionado. I sold all my MS stuff and went full on playstation, but oddly enough not because of the always online directly. I brought everything to the swapshop the moment Major Nelson said that going off-line couldn't be done, that he couldn't just flip a switch. Two days later, they flipped the switch.
I was then and there done with MS.

What operating system do you use?

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If the game was drm free as they promised, there won't be needed any subscription because anyone would be able to host their one servers.

Since when did ED have DRM?

 

[jmga]

Since when did ED have DRM?

Since you need to be connected to FD servers to play.

 

[littleminxundr]

What operating system do you use?

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Since when did ED have DRM?

Come on, dude, apply some common sense. We're talking consoles here, not PC-OS.

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So you gave up on Microsoft because ... what exactly ... ? Just to spit your face?

You don't trust them? And you went to Sony? I can't even trust them with my credit cards details.... (I do own Sony products btw before someone plays the fanboy card)

Same discussion as last year .. circular argument ... I dont know I am even responding as I said earlier I was done with this discussion ...

Now I am though ...

I use Ideal as my banking-portal on PSN, allowing me to pay only what's needed when I purchase something and the payment is 1:1. PSN has no more details on file on me than I want them to have.