So, all any publisher needs to do is make it necessary. Sorry nope, thats not how it works. It is always-on DRM regardless of intent or necessity.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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So, all any publisher needs to do is make it necessary. Sorry nope, thats not how it works. It is always-on DRM regardless of intent or necessity.
Regarding DRM (which frankly is a bit of a side issue) Elite Dangerous currently (and almost certainly will continue to) requires you to log in with your account (which is verified) before you can play. As you must do so to play the game online this is clearly and unequivocally DRM.
This process digitally manages your right to play the game....
This process digitally manages your right to play the game....
They shouldn't have promised an offline game to get money out of people during the Kickstarter especially. It clearly was never a priority.
Once they realised they couldn't have delivered it, they should have told us.
And there we have it.
My interpretation of Michael's countless posts in this thread is that your statement, "It clearly was never a priority," is false. He stated many times that the Devs spent countless hours trying to figure out how to make ED an online and offline experience. And in the end, it was not possible.
Here's a better question for everyone busy debating all this: In the grand scheme of LIFE -real life, your existence, your job, your family, your health, etc- does this really rank up there to this level of importance and effort that everyone is putting into it? It's a game.
Let's put this in perspective: Back in the mid '90's, I played on a text-based MUD. It was my life and caused me to screw up a few college courses I was taking. Then one day, the PKer of the system who I had been hounding got the drop on me. I was max level, tons of great gear. And it was all gone. And that's when I stopped and took a look around me. These games are great fun, and a wonderful way to pass our free time, but as soon as they interfere with real life, then it's detrimental to you.
Speaking of... I have a client meeting in 10 minutes and another in 2 hours. See y'all tonight.
FDev, keep up the good work. I can't wait til the 22nd.
Some ppl are truckers and play Euro Truck Simulator. why not? ^^
Nope, estimates on the number of stars in the real Milky Way (and thus in Frontier's simulation) range from ~100.000.000.000 to ~400.000.000.000, Titus is just tripping Balls.
It really should be a no brainer. I really don't understand how they can claim it is not DRM. A simple google search is enough.
Now here is somebody with some common sense, I agree absolutely!
DRM = Digital Rights Management...if you're not Managing the Digital Rights, it's not DRM.... if you can't understand that then please continue linking the same wiki page
When someone receives a physical copy and verifies that it has the same log-on procedure, we can argue about whether the physical copies contain DRM or not.
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I just view it this way,
DRM = An online connection is required to simply verify you have the right to use the material your in possession off (if you could spoof it to a fake server it would have no change to the game your playing, you have all required files and mechanics locally)
Always-On = An online connection is required to verify your rights to said software and to perform important in-game tasks and/or mechanics (In ED the part that requires the connection is the commodities market mostly followed by the mission generator as far as i can tell and spoofing to a fake server would break the game play completely)
Obv this is not the "wiki" definition but its how i view it
DRM = An online connection is required to simply verify you have the right to use the material your in possession off (if you could spoof it to a fake server it would have no change to the game your playing, you have all required files and mechanics locally)
Always-On = An online connection is required to verify your rights to said software and to perform important in-game tasks and/or mechanics (In ED the part that requires the connection is the commodities market mostly followed by the mission generator as far as i can tell and spoofing to a fake server would break the game play completely)
Obv this is not the "wiki" definition but its how i view it
Look it really is this simple. You can feelas disrespected as you want. I am fairly certain FD waited until the last second for a reason.
This is my thought... FD technically works for us... the consumer...
if you are at work and you brutally eff something up, are you going to go to your boss right away and tell him/her or are you going to do everything you can to rectify it? If you can't rectify it can you at least make it not-as-bad as the major mess up? If its still a mess, how many people are going to be mad? Fewer than if you left it as a bigger eff up?
Not necessarily a win, not necessarily a loss. You take your hit and keep on going.
also... I may have missed something here... didn't the kickstarter express things in terms of possibilities rather than promises?
You may claim semantics, but lets be real a possibility isn't a promise.
This is my thought... FD technically works for us... the consumer...
if you are at work and you brutally eff something up, are you going to go to your boss right away and tell him/her or are you going to do everything you can to rectify it? If you can't rectify it can you at least make it not-as-bad as the major mess up? If its still a mess, how many people are going to be mad? Fewer than if you left it as a bigger eff up?
Not necessarily a win, not necessarily a loss. You take your hit and keep on going.
also... I may have missed something here... didn't the kickstarter express things in terms of possibilities rather than promises?
You may claim semantics, but lets be real a possibility isn't a promise.
Something came to my when I was falling asleep last night...
I live in a small city, almost next door to the local football club.
There not a big club like Manchester United, and they haven't got anywhere near the same amount of money as they do.
Just above the entrance to the stadium on a banner there's one message.
It says "Keep the faith"
and that kind of made me think about this situation with Frontier Developments.
I live in a small city, almost next door to the local football club.
There not a big club like Manchester United, and they haven't got anywhere near the same amount of money as they do.
Just above the entrance to the stadium on a banner there's one message.
It says "Keep the faith"
and that kind of made me think about this situation with Frontier Developments.
You seem to don't understand the issue. For some ppl it is not possible to play online which means the can't play the game at all.
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The galaxy isn't held on anything Red Kite. It's generated as needed by a technique known as - oh what is it called now - primogeniture predestination, or something like that. I forget the term, it doesn't matter. The point being, it would certainly run on your home PC. Trust me........
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Procedural Generation !!
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I think you might be on the right track here - has anyone at FD ever worked a real job? "Look how much better we are making this thing you can't use" is something I could predict would get a variety of responses in retail, almost all of them involving disagreeable substances being thrown.
Sorry for the minority.... Word runing anyway an ED will be à great online game. ..
Hopefully they can get a refund then and find different titles they can play. Honestly, if the game can't be played offline, move on. It's still just a game.
I was afraid they'd put one in, despite all the compromises that it would require.
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