Well, they should have been honest about that right from the start and save us from ilusion that Elite Dangerous won't be another EVE online after all...
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Well, they should have been honest about that right from the start and save us from ilusion that Elite Dangerous won't be another EVE online after all...
People got the crazy idea that there would be an offline version of Elite : Dangerous in a variety of ways! Focusing purely on people, rather than it being written in as part of the EULA, the store blurb text, or the kickstarter, imagine if you had this exact question as to whether there would be an offline mode, and you asked,
a mod,
the executive producer,
or even the CEO!
And were told ... yes there would be. I know you were smart enough to see through this charade, but for some weird reason people took their word for it - tragic I know.
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I was just thinking of happier times and then suddenly this image took on a more cynical twist.
You should add a caption "Priorities in the right order"
For that very small minority I feel sorry they are unable to join the rest of humanity on the internet, but now they wanna sue FD and take down the only good company making the space sim of our dreams. Bravo...*Slow golf clap*
DRM = Digital Rights Management...if you're not Managing the Digital Rights, it's not DRM.... if you can't understand that then please continue linking the same wiki page
Ok so then it IS DRM, because the online connection has to be to their server.
It's well known that when this thread reaches 707 pages long we'll all see the error of our ways and and agree to disagree.
Any moment now...
Any moment now...
So you are saying it is not really always-on DRM if you really need to be always on. ok...
/popcorn
Just read the countless news about Diablos or Simcitys always-on DRM. And yeah EA claimed the same thing as you guys, its not DRM, just internet connectivity LOL
Titus - SJT wasn't being very serious
I was being a little bit serious. Someone wanted to get rid of 5000 shares so badly they only asked £2.60 for them.
This kinda reminds me of the words spoken by General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett VC KCB DSO and bar:
"If all else fails, a total Pig-Headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through"
EVE without the megaguild rule, the gankings, actually flying 1st person space ships...? Which bit is like EVE again?
Still a confusion of the scale. Do you honestly prefer a static game universe which only moves when you're watching, over an actually living one where time ticks on, wars are fought and trade happens whether or not you are there to see it? Morrowing was a horrible game to me. It tried to give the illusion of a living world, but all the while it was blatantly obious how static things were without me giving things a push.
Elite promises to be alive 24/7. It's great
Its great for you. Because th at what you want. Its not great for me. The static world you describe is exactly what i wanted. Maybe I'm an outlier but it was made clear without equivocation that would be delivered. I waited until premium beta to back ED and I did so BECAUSE I could play completely alone. My play time is very limited. Many of my sessions are merely flying out to where I want to be so I can do what I want to do. If I'm forced online now I might get to the edge of the frontier to explore have to stop then when I log back on all the lush unknown galaxy I wanted to explore already has been. So now i have to spend another session just finding the new border then plan to set out next time likely to find again I'm too late. I like the game still. Won't ask for a refund. I backed FD and had faith in them. I got burned. I'll take my licks but I no longer trust them. So live and learn u guess. I hope they realize how valuable goodwill is.
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You can prove anything with facts.
It wasn't a priority because they put the code server-side rather than in the client. That was a choice they made.
The natural upshot of that move killed offline.
So no, I stand by my statement that offline was clearly never a priority for Frontier. They said what they said during the Kickstarter for the reasons they said it, and the graphs show they did rather well out of it (I remember, I was there), but the fact remains that if they truly wanted to create an online / offline universe it would have been planned that way from the get-go.
What I think has happened is that they tried to implement what they thought they could do at the start of the project, and found it didn't work, because development had moved on to solely online mode - ignoring offline.
Not if they don't verify you as a licensed user (ie. MANAGE their DIGITAL RIGHTS) through that connection.
As an example, I HAVE to connect to google to use google...but they don't validate me as a verified consumer (they just sell my browsing habits on to their advertising partners) so there's no DRM from using their servers even though I have to have a constant connection to their servers to use their services...
Until you see the implementation from the physical copies they distribute in the future you won't know if it's DRM free or not...
...so basically please stop arguing for the lack of a DRM-free physical copy as an example of them failing a KS reward as the basis for your proposed litigation to stand on and just hope that they show some decent customer service and offer you a partial/full refund.
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From Retweet from David Brabens Twitter account - 5 hrs ago.
Drews Analysis of the Offline issue
http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/elite-dangerous-and-playing-offline/
Drews Analysis of the Offline issue
http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/elite-dangerous-and-playing-offline/
I do hope this is the only major thing dropped that can't be considered at all. If we're destined for a slow dripfeed over the next month of 'actually... we're not doing that either' then I wouldn't want to be in FD's shoes.
As for this specific? Disappointed but not surprised. Nobody seems to make decent offline games any more. It must be a lost art to all these new developers who ask 'but where's the server?'
To be honest, I think the reactions of many in the community disappoint me more - the moment something doesn't affect someone personally, all that can be heard is 'sucks to be you', 'I feel for you', 'you should move on', 'don't see what the fuss is' etc. Whether personally I want offline mode or not, I look around this forum and ask 'do I really want to spend quality time with these anti-social people in a persistent universe? I'm not sure I want to in a forum, let alone real life, so why would I in ED, where I'm paying for the privilege?'.
As for this specific? Disappointed but not surprised. Nobody seems to make decent offline games any more. It must be a lost art to all these new developers who ask 'but where's the server?'
To be honest, I think the reactions of many in the community disappoint me more - the moment something doesn't affect someone personally, all that can be heard is 'sucks to be you', 'I feel for you', 'you should move on', 'don't see what the fuss is' etc. Whether personally I want offline mode or not, I look around this forum and ask 'do I really want to spend quality time with these anti-social people in a persistent universe? I'm not sure I want to in a forum, let alone real life, so why would I in ED, where I'm paying for the privilege?'.
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