No offline? I have asked for a full refund. I will see if this happens.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Echo this - i haven't touched the game either since the last newsletter. - And i'm not going to download gamma or the release version until this is sorted out.
Human nature. People will abuse it more if theres zero protection. Of course it will be cracked but at least DRM keeps some of us honest if nothing more than its a bit extra hassle to get the cracked version, the virtual drive mounter ect.
Ahuh, but tell me you havn't been playing the game all this time though? I mean if offline was all you wanted then you should not have been participating in online activities. I say if they see you were active, your SOL.
No it works anywhere......The only problem is you actually have to have done something illegal
I dont, I was asking. If you have not been active online in the game then I think you should get something back, but if you have participated online then no.
this is great, so they let you alpha test and pay for it and if you enjoyed the bugs and crashes, you "used" the product and don´t get a refund despite the fact they canned a vital core feature, offline play
great business practice,lol
Want to know my thoughts on why they've chosen to make the game online-only? (Probably not but I'm gonna say it anyway):
#1 Monetization through skins and microtransactions
#2 In game advertising to keep servers going to make #1 sustainable
#3 To use #1 to fund development of further expansions
#4 Because having an online mode is a catalyst for #1
#5 Because pouring resources into an offline mode would make the online mode weaker and therefore less traction for #1
#6 Because they promised a gazzilion star systems and they need players to fill it up so that it doesn't seem empty and pointless
#7 Because programming proper dynamic AI and economy systems for a gazzilion star systems would take longer than their investors wanted, why not just have players performing the job for free and release now
#1 Monetization through skins and microtransactions
#2 In game advertising to keep servers going to make #1 sustainable
#3 To use #1 to fund development of further expansions
#4 Because having an online mode is a catalyst for #1
#5 Because pouring resources into an offline mode would make the online mode weaker and therefore less traction for #1
#6 Because they promised a gazzilion star systems and they need players to fill it up so that it doesn't seem empty and pointless
#7 Because programming proper dynamic AI and economy systems for a gazzilion star systems would take longer than their investors wanted, why not just have players performing the job for free and release now
The universe is pretty big, I bet you could find your own corner of it and never see people like me 
I actually prefer Solo mode at least until I can defend myself properly. But in any case, you gotta learn to get on with the rest of the universe..no man is an island.
I actually prefer Solo mode at least until I can defend myself properly. But in any case, you gotta learn to get on with the rest of the universe..no man is an island.
I'll be honest. I played Elite back in '84. I got to Elite on the C64. Then I bought frontier and loved it. Got to deadly before First Encounters came out. Then played that bugs and all until I got to well Elite and some. Then I waited, and waited. Then kickstarter came around and I was so excited about it. I backed it with more money than I could really afford. Then I got to play Alpha 1 ( as a premium beta backer ) I was blown away. Amazing. Such hope. Then a messy beta ( never got to play beta 2 because it simply didn't work for me ) .. We watched the flight mechanics get dumbed down which was disappointing, but other things still looked great. Then they pull OFFLINE in the most hideous way. FD's communication has been laughable through the entire process. We are going to be left with a game that many of us have paid for but didn't really back.. Many of us know how online gaming goes.. My little joke well for many it will be reality just like many other MMO's . There isn't a way to stop it really until the servers close... And that is the sad truth for me.
I'll play ED but it will always feel tainted now. Don't worry about me on the blockades because it will be other players who are quite happy with the MMO online situation.
Anygame where the reward comes from killing others will have this 'despicable' human behaviour.
G.
I'll play ED but it will always feel tainted now. Don't worry about me on the blockades because it will be other players who are quite happy with the MMO online situation.
Anygame where the reward comes from killing others will have this 'despicable' human behaviour.
G.
But that is just offensive to those of us who wanted to (and us kickstarters actually already have) pony up cold hard cash to play the offline game we was promised.
Punishing those of us who have paid to "keep us honest" is as annoyingly offensively absurd as the adverts you get in the cinema telling you not to pirate films.
And repeating that it's not DRM doesn't make your argument any stronger either. It's access control to a product that requires an account and a key. If it looks like a dog and barks like a dog....
Arguing that it's not DRM because otherwise Frontier would act in a certain way is only valid if no company in history every behaved in a shady way. We gave our money to FD in good faith. They have not returned that faith.
Want to know my thoughts on why they've chosen to make the game online-only? (Probably not but I'm gonna say it anyway):
#1 Monetization through skins and microtransactions
#2 In game advertising to keep servers going to make #1 sustainable
#3 To use #1 to fund development of further expansions
#4 Because having an online mode is a catalyst for #1
#5 Because pouring resources into an offline mode would make the online mode weaker and therefore less traction for #1
#6 Because they promised a gazzilion star systems and they need players to fill it up so that it doesn't seem empty and pointless
#7 Because programming proper dynamic AI and economy systems for a gazzilion star systems would take longer than their investors wanted, why not just have players performing the job for free and release now
#1 Monetization through skins and microtransactions
#2 In game advertising to keep servers going to make #1 sustainable
#3 To use #1 to fund development of further expansions
#4 Because having an online mode is a catalyst for #1
#5 Because pouring resources into an offline mode would make the online mode weaker and therefore less traction for #1
#6 Because they promised a gazzilion star systems and they need players to fill it up so that it doesn't seem empty and pointless
#7 Because programming proper dynamic AI and economy systems for a gazzilion star systems would take longer than their investors wanted, why not just have players performing the job for free and release now
That is just the thing why people want offline solo mode. Anyone who ever played EVE online knows how only few morons can ruin you the game forever. Yes, that are also the wonders of MMO. And some of us do not find that "exciting". And no bounties, police, bans or insurances will stop morons from ruining the game for casual players. By casual I mean players who can not afford to play the game for hours every day.
And so, after carefully and painfully geting the Cobra at last, some moron blows you off the sky for fun and cause it has a big ship. Some of us just do not wwant these experiences. We want offline mode!
FD does not have to refund for beta phase but has to for the final release - offline - dropped version of the game.
Sorry I'm not sure i follow your point?
Are you saying I'm predicting a meltdown and wild panic or that I am defending the policy?
It's natural that on day 1 of launch that the providers servers are generally a little sluggish due to the mad amounts of traffic. No release on a digital platform I have played on has been any different.
At their worst the games themselves have been unplayable for a few days as a result, see sim city and Diablo 3! It's really not great but I have enjoyed the games regardless. Now hey, maybe elite wont suffer this, great, but I'm not going to throw toys out of pram should it end being the case.
What faith? They have been delivering regular builds of the game and more they dont owe you anything more IMHO.
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