Not another graphical change! (AKA What have you done to my Nebula?)
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I'm heading out to take a look.
It's difficult to get a direct comparison with the horse head nebula now though - as most of that region has been permit locked since those early screenshots.
I'm heading out to take a look.
There is a way in
but only with an anaconda with 60,38ly range But no way out.....
And has the word "Console" come up over and over?
Oh yes but the Devs said it wasn't to do with the consoles so that settles it!
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Some game companies put in PayWalls....FDev put in GrindWalls LOL
I think the permit locks are more to do with aliens...
You mean they're being nasty and won't hand them out? Maybe we should just 50c our way there and circumvent the hyperjump restriction?
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You mean they're being nasty and won't hand them out? Maybe we should just 50c our way there and circumvent the hyperjump restriction?
As i said, there IS a way in. A one way^^ i will go looking what's there but first i need to squeeze another 0.6ly out of my conda
"A thousand tongues, a thousand tastes". Great. Now there will be a thousand "I like this one", "No, I like this one" posts.
I think the permit locks are more to do with aliens...
Nonsense, nebulas are being gradually closed for renovations. Although... maybe aliens will be doing all the painting there, so it could still be right.
stop complaining
good looking nebulas are clearly in the 10 year plan, there was never a direct promise from Fdev that we will get quality nebulas on the first release, If you believed we will get one it`s your own fault for imagining things, not frontiers.
There were also no downgrades in this game whatsoever, as proved by the devs and fans saying so on the forums. Its just frontier preparing them for a major overhaul and then they will surely look better than anything on the market (we are dealing with state of the art PG experts here remember). Just have patience and if you want proof just check the outsider.
good looking nebulas are clearly in the 10 year plan, there was never a direct promise from Fdev that we will get quality nebulas on the first release, If you believed we will get one it`s your own fault for imagining things, not frontiers.
There were also no downgrades in this game whatsoever, as proved by the devs and fans saying so on the forums. Its just frontier preparing them for a major overhaul and then they will surely look better than anything on the market (we are dealing with state of the art PG experts here remember). Just have patience and if you want proof just check the outsider.
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The previous high res images of the nebulas is just that. Images.
The new engine has built 3D approximations of the same nebulas, so that we can watch them from different sides in space and still get a good enough result. Not as high detail as the photographs, but good enough for the game. I would like FD to make high rest image renderings of the nebulas from at least 6 sides, preferably 14 sides or more. That way we would have simulated "photographs" of the nebula from every direction that could be used as place holders for the real 3D nebulas in game.
This high level of detail rendered placeholder for low level of detail distances, is pretty easy to do, but require detailed data of the actual nebulas.
Without the high res "photographs", the depth of reality and immersion is lost. I can watch the real photographs and realize the fantastic vast deep distances and the insane amount of space and detail these things really hold.
The new engine has built 3D approximations of the same nebulas, so that we can watch them from different sides in space and still get a good enough result. Not as high detail as the photographs, but good enough for the game. I would like FD to make high rest image renderings of the nebulas from at least 6 sides, preferably 14 sides or more. That way we would have simulated "photographs" of the nebula from every direction that could be used as place holders for the real 3D nebulas in game.
This high level of detail rendered placeholder for low level of detail distances, is pretty easy to do, but require detailed data of the actual nebulas.
Without the high res "photographs", the depth of reality and immersion is lost. I can watch the real photographs and realize the fantastic vast deep distances and the insane amount of space and detail these things really hold.
You are actually talking about Alpha there. What I show in the first post is from Gamma, which is a 3D model of the Horsehead Nebula.
Both of these are 3D models.
Within this very thread, Frontier have confirmed that the game engine is incorrectly displaying the low resolution version of the Horsehead Nebula. If you go into the galaxy map, you can see the high resolution model is still present.
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I'm so glad someone more prominent in the community has noticed this, might get fixed now. I was pretty disappointed when I reached the Seagull Nebula. There exists a fix temporarily, however it will only allow one nebula to be rendered. However, it will be rendered in full quality.
These shots are from 2.1
Original:
After tweaks:
So no, these are not "images". The full 3D models exist and are not being rendered correctly. I have my graphics maxed.
These shots are from 2.1
Original:
After tweaks:
So no, these are not "images". The full 3D models exist and are not being rendered correctly. I have my graphics maxed.
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Is the pixelated Seagull Nebula "visually appealing"? Because that's what happens to the small nebulae.
This thread is from mid-2015, so I don't think the issue is going to be fixed in a hurry. However there is a reply here from Frontier where they explain what is going on.
And I think they've jumped to false conclusions simply based on your area. Check out the Seagull Nebula on the map. Notice how there's not any other nebula nearby to confuse the engine into thinking it should be low quality (other than Thor's Helmet, which I was definitely further than)...
I noticed it again at Rosette and all the waypoints through the Crab Nebula Expedition. I stopped taking screenshots because it was so depressing. Even the Crab Nebula looks all blocky and low resolution.
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And I think they've jumped to false conclusions simply based on your area. Check out the Seagull Nebula on the map. Notice how there's not any other nebula nearby to confuse the engine into thinking it should be low quality (other than Thor's Helmet, which I was definitely further than)...
I noticed it again at Rosette and all the waypoints through the Crab Nebula Expedition. I stopped taking screenshots because it was so depressing. Even the Crab Nebula looks all blocky and low resolution.
Well something weird is certainly going on that's for sure. Seems strange it has been left for so long though.
I just went back to the Horsehead Nebula, and from some angles there is terrible pixelation and banding going on. However from most angles it looks the same as from 1.3 - I couldn't get to the exact same system as it is now permit locked, so the latest image is from a slightly different angle to the previous two:
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