I got the impression it was the lack of opportunities in the sector.
I got the impression it was the lack of opportunities in the sector.
If only they knew how much money they could make doing this kind of work.Today's youth does not really like the manual work.
To give blows with a chisel on stones or with a hammer on beams every day, does not facilitate the vocations.
If only they knew how much money they could make doing this kind of work.
French min wage; E10.03 hr, E18255 yr
Carpenter E24960 yr
Stonemason E26253 yr
That's a pretty minimal wage for skilled work. I paid several men who were operating as subcontractors (by definition very highly skilled) an average of $500.00 per day last year, though that was based on volume of completed work as opposed to hourly. Skilled tradesmen in mine or related fields can average that kind of money every day of the year, if they're willing. Unfortunately, most men nowadays lack the discipline. Moderately skilled labor in the construction fields are 15-25 hourly, and work is more or less unlimited. You'd be amazed how many people would rather cash in a welfare check, though, rather then take such an opportunity.French min wage; E10.03 hr, E18255 yr
Carpenter E24960 yr
Stonemason E26253 yr
@Morbad, having that kind of financial flexibility sounds great. That's one of the awesome things about America, our system allows literally anyone to climb into the ranks of the millionaires or to fall down through the cracks based on their ingenuity and effort, and one of the reasons to be repulsed by anything even mildly smelling like the social systems in Europe where you're essentially chained down to whatever caste you were born into, or that society dictates. A great example of which would be your reaction to Felix's little wage comparison.
That’s why I told my kids from the very beginning, I will leave you nothing, get an education, work or stave. Of course they don’t know I’m not being 100% honest but they got the message.That's a pretty minimal wage for skilled work. I paid several men who were operating as subcontractors (by definition very highly skilled) an average of $500.00 per day last year, though that was based on volume of completed work as opposed to hourly. Skilled tradesmen in mine or related fields can average that kind of money every day of the year, if they're willing. Unfortunately, most men nowadays lack the discipline. Moderately skilled labor in the construction fields are 15-25 hourly, and work is more or less unlimited. You'd be amazed how many people would rather cash in a welfare check, though, rather then take such an opportunity.
Edit: @Morbad, having that kind of financial flexibility sounds great. That's one of the awesome things about America, our system allows literally anyone to climb into the ranks of the millionaires or to fall down through the cracks based on their ingenuity and effort, and one of the reasons to be repulsed by anything even mildly smelling like the social systems in Europe where you're essentially chained down to whatever caste you were born into, or that society dictates. A great example of which would be your reaction to Felix's little wage comparison.
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However it is certainly gross salary. Which is not really motivating.French min wage; E10.03 hr, E18255 yr
Carpenter E24960 yr
Stonemason E26253 yr
I'm at work so don't have time to parse the provided link, but I can tell you that here in America any healthy person who is stagnating is doing so as a consequence of their own choices and designs. The "disadvantaged poor person who can never get ahead no matter how hard they work" is no more real than the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus. People stay poor for the most part because they are lazy, undisciplined and take no risks.
Social mobility in the US is as stagnant as in the UK.
edit; **** me that's dark, here's the link; OECD
I'm at work so don't have time to parse the provided link, but I can tell you that here in America any healthy person who is stagnating is doing so as a consequence of their own choices and designs. The "disadvantaged poor person who can never get ahead no matter how hard they work" is no more real than the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus. People stay poor for the most part because they are lazy, undisciplined and take no risks.
There is equal opportunity for all here in the USA, just not equal outcome.
A good residential roofer can make 80-100k annually (I pay that to several subs, and I'm not the highest by any mean) just reroofing asphalt shingles, so I'd have to think someone with stone skill would command a higher income.
I can either go with a graph, or I can speak with intimate authority about pay scales in the construction industry.
The irony is that despite how lucrative this work is, far and away the hardest part of running any construction company regardless of size and scope is finding people willing to work. You'd think with a salary such as I mentioned you'd have a line of applications, but sadly that couldn't be farther from the truth. I'm in the process of scaling back my bidding process for just this reason; there is FAR more high paying work than there are people willing to do it.
This strikes me, as someone who has lived in half a dozen states across the eastern US, as completely false...to the degree that I'd think it was a joke coming from most people. It's also objectively incorrect.