Now that Universal let the secret out…

Fan Made Image that should be use in the DLC

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HeatherG

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This thread has been an issue for most of the day. There is no reason to have such hosility over nothing. If you can't handle what peoples opinions are then pass the thread up. No more "Bro" ,"your toxic", "your comments are toxic" on and on and on. There have been reply bans put in effect and if this can't be a civil discussion it'll be closed for good.
 
It's not soft canon. As of 1993, when there was only one film (no franchise. no universe.) and there were only fifteen confirmed species, segisaurus was one of those fifteen species -- and some of us have been waiting to see it for the past thirty years. It belongs in the game and I believe that Frontier could do something wholly unique with it.

That being said, as far as the long-term life of the game goes, the modding community would benefit from having as many unique rigs and animation sets as possible.
The only indication that Segisaurus was in Jurassic Park is a prop that's never shown on screen and various lists used for PR... no actual on screen appearance of any kind... that's definitive soft canon.
 
The only indication that Segisaurus was in Jurassic Park is a prop that's never shown on screen and various lists used for PR... no actual on screen appearance of any kind... that's definitive soft canon.
The brochure prop itself is definitely on screen in JP1. It can be seen when Lex grabs the flashlight among other scenes. Although I think the map not on screen is the map that includes Segisaurus because the brochures are folded up and the map is on the inside of the brochure.
The brochure itself is definitely canon. But since the map itself is not on screen (I think), I suppose you could consider it up for debate what's on the map in the JP universe canon.

Personally I think that it being on the map of the actual film prop is reason enough to at least consider it as an option to add. The same would have been true for the other names on the map list. Baryonyx has of course been added into the official canon through JWFK. But besides the mention of Metriacanthosaurus, the other names are just as "soft canon" to the films as Segisaurus is. Proceratosaurus, Herrerasaurus were really in the same boat. I don't think JP the game counts since that's kinda considered soft canon anyway. So that makes Segisaurus the odd one out, and the last taxon to be added.
Although, of course it's fine that you think it's not a very interesting taxon to add. It would be quite similar to Coelophysis.
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I tested it. It dosnt work. If you have the wrong plants, they will be sick too.
I can't remember what all of the Sandbox settings for the Creative preset are, but if you use the Creative preset, then you should be able to sustain large herds off of surprisingly little amounts of paleo plants. You don't even need to genertically reduce hunger. Like username_here said, herbivores can eat any paleo plants in Sandbox. I suspect that the sauropods other than Nigersaurus and Amargasaurus need the taller plants, since they presumably only have animations for tall plants. I could be wrong though and have never tested this since there are plenty of paleo plants that offer both both and tall foliage. Definitely turn off sickness, comfort, habitat needs, etc. Of course, the less paleo plant coverage that you have and the more herbivores that you have, the more likely it is that some herbivores will start starving while waiting for their turn to eat. However, this is an issue with the herbivore feeders as well.
 
The only indication that Segisaurus was in Jurassic Park is a prop that's never shown on screen and various lists used for PR... no actual on screen appearance of any kind... that's definitive soft canon.
As of the first film in 1993, between the creatures seen in the film, the embryo tubes seen in the film, and the park pamphlet seen in the film, there were thirteen confirmed to be on display in Jurassic Park. The general consensus, up until recently, was that the fourteenth and fifteenth species were pteranodon and compsognathus. Of the eight species not seen in the first film (including the two speculative species), stegosaurus, pteranodon, compsognathus, and baryonyx have been seen on film. Two of the remaining four species, metriacanthosaurus and herrerasaurus, have been realized in soft canon, leaving only proceratosaurus and segisaurus. All but segisaurus have been brought into JWE2.
 
I don't think JP the game counts since that's kinda considered soft canon anyway.
The developers at TellTale went to extraordinary lengths to weave their story into existing canon with minimal contraction, most among them giving Gerry Harding a new look. They did such a nice job picking up loose ends and expanding the lore. Due to the level of care put into their story, I consider JPtG to be an alternate hard canon with the original trilogy. The herrerasaurus, troodon, and tylosaurus designs should absolutely be considered canonical designs and I am disappointed that Frontier decided to redesign those creatures. (The mods show how well those designs would have worked in JWE.)
 
The developers at TellTale went to extraordinary lengths to weave their story into existing canon with minimal contraction, most among them giving Gerry Harding a new look. They did such a nice job picking up loose ends and expanding the lore. Due to the level of care put into their story, I consider JPtG to be an alternate hard canon with the original trilogy. The herrerasaurus, troodon, and tylosaurus designs should absolutely be considered canonical designs and I am disappointed that Frontier decided to redesign those creatures. (The mods show how well those designs would have worked in JWE.)
I've been avoiding the whole canon discussion for a while now due to how much of a rabbit hole it is. However, from my perspective, the line between soft canon and hard canon is cross-referencing between works.

The best example of this is the dual set of Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. Every MCU film prior to those is referenced in Infinity War and / or Endgame or is directly sequentially tied to a film referenced in either Infinity War. Everything becomes one big cohesive whole where all previous continuity is explicitly acknowledged. Jurassic World Dominion also does this with all of the previous live action films, including Battle at Big Rock.

On the other hand, while Agents of Shield is theoretically and supposedly canon, as far as I know, there is no reference to its existence or events anywhere in the MCU films. If you pretended that Agents of Shield never existed, your enjoyment of the MCU films would arguably not change one bit, and there'd be no story or continuity issues. The same goes for Camp Cretaceous. None of the live action films acknowledge Camp Cretaceous or anything that occurs in it. The same can be said for the Telltale game.

There can be all sorts of official press releases saying that something is canon, but the lack of direct acknowledge means that one has plausible deniability for non-canonicity. It also makes me skeptical of official words. You'd think that Kevin Feige or Bob Iger would want to promote Agents of Shield through direct tie-ins, and Frank Marshall would want to promote Camp Cretaceous through direct tie-ins as well. The fact that they don't makes me think that these top level people secretly don't believe that these works are actually canon.
 
None of the live action films acknowledge Camp Cretaceous or anything that occurs in it. The same can be said for the Telltale game.
It's also worth mentioning that the live-action films are oftentimes inconsistent in their own adherence to canon. The truth is that the fans care far more about the canon of the franchise than the filmmakers do.
 
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