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Nutter

Nutter
Jackie Silver said:
Brilliant, thanks. I'm very close to that system already - I'm on my way to nearby HIP 19039 where I think there are also several Rocky/CFTs.

I think I've found an upper boundary on CFT planets - found an HMC planet which should have been CFT (it had a satellite CFT water world) which was 5 Earth masses so it looks like CFT planets must be under 5 Earth masses.
I also think there's a lower limit around 0.1 Earth masses. (As always I'd welcome evidence to the contrary!)
Put together they should help us identify CFT planets more easily, especially if we can find more evidence to lower the upper boundary.
Also, we should be able to establish an absolute range of values for CFT planets if this is true.
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Found a huge Ammonia World if your looking for Top and Bottom end!

HIP 8693 16

MASS 103.9279
RADIUS 23,625KM
SURFACE PRESSURE 26,300.68

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bix2fjjcox..._0042.bmp?dl=0
 

Valok

Valok
Lots of interesting stuff here, thank you all for sharing. Just came back from a 10.000Ly trip and I'll surely use this info now on my next voyage.

I did however decided to go with a "safer" ASP (dying as an explorer is very​ costly after all) while still trying to maximize the jump range, this is the end result after a lot of tweaking.
"Safer" Deep Space Exp ASP
33.93Ly with the tank full. It has -0,80Ly than yours but it is carrying a D3 Shield, 4 Heat Sinks for those moments where you decide to french kiss a very Hot star and a AFMU. What do you ppl think?

P.S I saw it somewhere that having a shield decreases the rate that W&T degrades your ship while traveling (Hence one of the main reasons for the shield). Can anyone confirm this?
 
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Ambivalent

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Whats the general school of thought on black holes/neutron stars which orbit wayyy out at 100 or 200, or even 400k ls from the entry point, is it worth the time to go out and scan them or not?

Do you get roughly half credits for the discovery scan and then double it with the surface scanner, or is the pay out more in favour of the surface scan, I sometimes wonder if the best return on my time isn't just to ignore the surface scans completely on almost all objects and just go fast system to system to system covering as many as possible in my time.
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
Ambivalent said:
Whats the general school of thought on black holes/neutron stars which orbit wayyy out at 100 or 200, or even 400k ls from the entry point, is it worth the time to go out and scan them or not?

Do you get roughly half credits for the discovery scan and then double it with the surface scanner, or is the pay out more in favour of the surface scan, I sometimes wonder if the best return on my time isn't just to ignore the surface scans completely on almost all objects and just go fast system to system to system covering as many as possible in my time.
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It's more in favour of the surface scan. Generally you get about 1/6 of the credits for the initial scan e.g. for stars it's around 200 (initial) -> 1200 (detailed.)
(confirming that that ratio holds for other objects is something I keep meaning to get round to doing)

Scanning one black hole is roughly equivalent to jumping through and initial scanning a dozen low-value "M" dwarf systems, so I'd say the cut-off is around five to ten minutes travel time.
 
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Ambivalent

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I feel like when i port into a new system and a message pops up, '1 new object discovered' thats my 200cr for the main star, then I feel like the discovery scanner bumps that up to 1200 ish, and a surfance scan jumps it up again to more like 2400-3k depending on the type of star. Could be I'm wrong on that, but i'm pretty sure that's how at least the initial star behaves. This is what leads me to think that the advanced discovery scanner alone picks up a good chunk of your cash for the time it takes to do.

*edited to fix my wonky grammar :)
 
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Nutter

Nutter
Ambivalent said:
I feel like when i port into a new system and a message pops up, '1 new object discovered' thats my 200cr for the main star, then I feel like the discovery scanner bumps that up to 1200 ish, and a surfance scan jumps it up again to more like 2400-3k depending on the type of star. Could be I'm wrong on that, but i'm pretty sure that's how at least the initial star behaves. This is what leads me to think that the advanced discovery scanner alone picks up a good chunk of your cash for the time it takes to do.

*edited to fix my wonky grammar :)
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A discovered star is about 203 credits a Surface Scan will boost it to around 1,200 and thats it. Honking your horn only discovers! :)
 

Ambivalent

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I guess I'm mistaken then, no biggie and cheers for clearing it up. Still can't help feeling theres an aweful lot of stuff that isn't worth the time to scan it though.
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
Ambivalent said:
I guess I'm mistaken then, no biggie and cheers for clearing it up. Still can't help feeling theres an aweful lot of stuff that isn't worth the time to scan it though.
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It depends on your point of view, whether you want to make the maximum amount of money, or chart everything regardless, or somewhere in between.

I'm getting good at spotting HMC/CFT planets now, and they're generally within a couple of AUs of the star, so they're always worth checking out (and if you get a dud and a planet is only an HMC, that's still a couple of thousand credits gained.)

I now have my first value for a Rocky/CFT planet: 0.2038 Earth masses was worth 15,646 credits for one of the planets around HIP 19039. That's in the same range as Ammonia Worlds, so it's possible that they share the same curve for values.

An easy to overlook argument in favour of scanning in detail rather than scanning in quantity - less time selling cartographics data when you get home. :D

Also I suspect that the upper limit for CFTs (which I'd pegged at "under five" earlier) may be under 1.7 Earth masses.

That was a good trip, that last one. As I was approaching HIP 8693 I spotted what looked like the typical "gas giant with a bunch of moons" cluster of bright dots... and then saw the same thing in the next system, and the next, and realised it was S171 shining away in the distance. I must go there!

Link to latest exploration value dataset.
 
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Nutter

Nutter
Jackie Silver said:
and then saw the same thing in the next system, and the next, and realised it was S171 shining away in the distance. I must go there!
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WOOT! The first thing I did when the bubble burst was fly a circle - Witch - Barny - S171 - Nelly the Elephant + nearby Nebula then back home! S171 is full of good stuff to look at!
 

Ambivalent

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It certainly is, I'm currantly in S171 at the moment and its whats making me question what I'm doing as most of the blackholes are 200k trips or even 400k trips for a single black hole and a few brown dwarfs and lumps of ice, which is really driving me mad.

Now i've jumped to one of the regualr stars in the cluster for a change of pace thinking it will relax me, and i find a F type with 5x possible terraformable metallics around it, buts it also 290k lys!!! argh, at least when i get there in 20 mins time there is something interesting to scan :)

out of interest I found two of the S171s to be very similar with just a big O type star and a single black hole, so I scanned one of the holes and skipped the other and noted which ones there were, so will see how much difference the surface scan makes on that one when i get back, whenever that will be.
 

Ravenov

Ravenov
Hopefully i'll be in the S171 area later tonight, plan on starting from one end and working my way along. That's if i don't need to make a massive detour to get there, stars are getting a bit thin on the ground where i am right now.
 

Lodorenos

Lodorenos
After selling off all the data of my first trip to Sagittarius A*, I'm headed to the core region again. This time the destination is as high as possible above the core and thanks to your video my jump range has gone from 31.12 to 34.73 (full fuel) and 37.60 running on fumes. Cheers.

Edit: Might just have to hop by S171 first, haven't been there yet!

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I'm also really starting to feel like I'm no longer an explorer noob.

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