Guide / Tutorial Nutter’s explorers guide to the Galaxy

HOW do you get hauler to 30ly? I am currently sitting here, trying to figure that out, I do everything as you say, but after I fit it with surface and celestial body scanners, it goes down to 26ly... pretty much same as I get with adder? shouldnt I use adder then, since it has more fuel capacity?

EDIT; ok, well, adder's range will be 24-25... Anyways, maybe you should update first post so it's not misleading, or tell how you get hauler to 30ly, cuz with what you are telling me, it aint workin :p

Sorry I added a heavy sensor in this one but, you can scrape 31ly - https://www.dropbox.com/s/t1xovkc9ihom1d3/withscan.jpg?dl=0

As you can see all D class mods help :)
 
Terrestrial Ammonia World! - I may be going bonkers here but...

I've never seen one before! Anyone else?

I've seen one, but I forgot where it was - I didn't realise how rare they are at the time! The only other one I know of it a long way away at WITCH HEAD SECTOR JC-V C2-3 which someone else posted.
Now you've found this new one we can try and work out where they are likely to be found.

I'm on my way to HIP 97394, should be fairly quick to get to your Ammonia World from there and look around nearby stars for more.
 
I've seen one, but I forgot where it was - I didn't realise how rare they are at the time! The only other one I know of it a long way away at WITCH HEAD SECTOR JC-V C2-3 which someone else posted.
Now you've found this new one we can try and work out where they are likely to be found.

I'm on my way to HIP 97394, should be fairly quick to get to your Ammonia World from there and look around nearby stars for more.

Cool! - Just round the corner from me Only 627ly away! :) Fingers crossed the search tool works for that system! - I'm going to be away for a while, my 'secret destination' is another 16,000ly away!
 
This thread deserves to be stickied, its full of great info! I really wish they would give us an explorers sub-forum (hint hint mods ;))

I've made a few rough maps of some great locations to visit, and what to see along the way. There's some spoilers in the referenced videos, but not too much (I hope).



Leave the frontier and head out to VY Canis Majoris and take a look at one of the largest known stars - its literally on our doorstep, less than 2,000 LYs distant. From there begin your journey across the Vela Molecular ridge (be careful as there is a wide area of Brown Dwarf sectors out that way so you need to follow a route that has refuelable stars dotted along it).

The NGC 3590 Open Star Cluster sits on the outer rim of the Orion arm. It becomes visible outside your cockpit canopy at around 500 light years distance and is well worth a visit. Follow the Orion rim to the Eta Carina Nebula. When I went during gamma it wasn't very impressive, but looking at the galactic map now it looks like the devs have given it some love and attention.

From Eta Carina, cross the interarm void into the Sagittarius rim. The star density is such that its probably best to have at least a 25LY jump capable ship.

Following the rim back you can use the V945 Scorpii cluster as a reference guide - its a cluster of some of the brightest stars on the map. From there its back across the void, into the Orion arm, visiting the Shapley 1 Wolf-Rayet system on the way home. A round trip of just under 30,000 light years.


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For those heading to the core regions don't take the direct route as you'll miss out on some stunning things along the way. The Lagoon nebula hardly gets a mention from explorers but its definitely worth a slight detour. From there its the long haul across to the CL Pismis star cluster embedded within NGC 6357 (there are some permit only stars in there that could be hints to a future FD event).

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From there if you're heading galactic core-ward, you'll need to cross the 3kpc - Norma Arm Expanse, the first half of which has a lot of brown dwarfs but thankfully plenty of refuelable stars amongst them. The expanse thins out about halfway across but then you're hit with a wall of stars as you enter the near rim of the 3kpc Expanding arm. Unfortunately anything after the 3kpc arm is playing Russian roulette as the game becomes more and more unstable with broken sectors (FD are aware of them thankfully). If you get stuck in them you won't be able to log on until game support gets to your ticket and moves you. Hopefully this will be fixed in a January patch.

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If you've got this far you have got to visit the Greae Phio stellar forge - its one of the most impressive sites I've seen. There are also lots of supernova remnants dotted about the outer core regions, the one I visited was 1,200 LYs above the galactic centre - giving impressive views of the sheer amount of stars below you :)

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I would love to see some maps from explorers on here as they give a rough idea of where to look for things. Eventually as well as raw data hints and tips in the thread there could be a whole catalog of explorer made maps and known routes for fellow explorers to follow? Something players can use to get their bearings from and check out for themselves if they're in that area of space?
 
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BTW, do you get reward for finding stuff with just (advanced) discovery scanner or do you only get reward if you go and (close enough to) scan it with (or without) advanced surface scanner? do you have to scan those celestial bodies you've discovered to get reward from them?

This thread is great, it convinced me take break from bounty hunting/pirating and now im good way towards NGC 6357 :) Gonna go looong way from there towards core, then head back and hopefully have enough money for anaconda :p
 
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BTW, do you get reward for finding stuff with just (advanced) discovery scanner or do you only get reward if you go and (close enough to) scan it with (or without) advanced surface scanner? do you have to scan those celestial bodies you've discovered to get reward from them?

You get a certain amount of reward from the initial scan and a larger amount from the detailed surface scanner. It's roughly 1:5 or 1:6, so if you scan a system with a single low mass "M" dwarf (but don't target the star) you'll get 200 and if you then go back and target the star for a full scan you'll get another 1200. Except that if you simply scan the star fully the first time, you'll get 1200. Or sometimes 1000. Or 1400. It's a bit funny like that, at least in my experience. I have a growing set of data points for individual objects; if you look at the diagrams I posted upthread you can see there are "main" (ordinary value, lots of datapoints) and "shadow" (lower value, but following the same line as the main curve, fewer datapoints) curves for the gas giants, there's definitely something unreliable about the way the reward is calculated.
 
You get a certain amount of reward from the initial scan and a larger amount from the detailed surface scanner. It's roughly 1:5 or 1:6, so if you scan a system with a single low mass "M" dwarf (but don't target the star) you'll get 200 and if you then go back and target the star for a full scan you'll get another 1200. Except that if you simply scan the star fully the first time, you'll get 1200. Or sometimes 1000. Or 1400. It's a bit funny like that, at least in my experience. I have a growing set of data points for individual objects; if you look at the diagrams I posted upthread you can see there are "main" (ordinary value, lots of datapoints) and "shadow" (lower value, but following the same line as the main curve, fewer datapoints) curves for the gas giants, there's definitely something unreliable about the way the reward is calculated.

More dumb questions (just wanna be sure): how about planets? Same rules? :p Thanks! man, still 7000+ ly from NGC 6357 X_X I am not gonna scan every planet (maybe star I jump to though) this will already take week or two lol I think I'll get anaconda or two even if I don't
 
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More dumb questions (just wanna be sure): how about planets? Same rules? :p Thanks!

Yes, although I'm not entirely sure that the ratio between initial scan and detailed scan return is the same across all objects, I should check that.


Linked here is my up-to-date data on the returns for different objects. (Values are for a Detailed Scan, after having returned an initial scan.)
I'm still missing Ammonia worlds (will get one fairly soon - I've just done my preliminary scan of the system), Water Giants, Wolf-Rayet stars (Nutter I think suggests ~2000 for a full scan) and Candidate-for-terraforming High Metal Content worlds.
I've found a couple of systems which are both chocka-block full of Helium-Rich gas giants (HIP 77964 and HIP 85071) so I'll get some more values for them, including a 3000+ Earth Mass planet. It looks as if whatever makes a gas giant helium-rich tends to affect all planets in a system, and the gas giants seem to run the full range of ordinary classifications (so from very low to very high mass and all temperatures.)

This is the only Water Giant I know of... (part of the very interesting HIP 63835 system, which I think is a must-see for explorers - it's close to the Old Worlds)
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Just stumbled across my first Ammonia World - Pencil Sector BA-A D43 B 11, hadn't heard of them before either! It looked a bit weird on the system map so was curious to see what it would be but wasn't expecting that!

Edit: checking again, bizarrely it doesn't have an atmosphere, not sure quite how that's an ammonia world, but that's what it says! Pics:

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This is the only Water Giant I know of... (part of the very interesting HIP 63835 system, which I think is a must-see for explorers - it's close to the Old Worlds)

I've seen a couple more but have no idea where as I didn't realise how rare they were at the time, just thought "wow, cool" and moved on :)
 
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You wouldn't happen to remember what sort of system those Water Giants were in, PSB? The one at HIP 63835 is in close orbit with a brown dwarf but it's in the context of a big and complicated system so I don't know what to look for.

Very excited :D to have found a new Herbig Ae/Be star (at HIP 78756) so should get a value for those in due course. I'm trying to work out a loop round the (many, and spread out) Lupi stars.
 
If anybody is interested in the rank progression: I just reached 'Pathfinder' at 2,600,000 CR made from exploration. The rank 'Trailblazer' was 1,300,000 CR.
 
I would like to thank Nutter for all the details and information!

To visualize everything i made this chart:
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Hope it helps
Great Stuff Buddy +1
If anybody is interested in the rank progression: I just reached 'Pathfinder' at 2,600,000 CR made from exploration. The rank 'Trailblazer' was 1,300,000 CR.
Great info also CMDR +1
 
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This thread deserves to be stickied, its full of great info! I really wish they would give us an explorers sub-forum (hint hint mods ;))

I've made a few rough maps of some great locations to visit, and what to see along the way. There's some spoilers in the referenced videos, but not too much (I hope).
Leave the frontier and head out to VY Canis Majoris and take a look at one of the largest known stars - its literally on our doorstep, less than 2,000 LYs distant. From there begin your journey across the Vela Molecular ridge (be careful as there is a wide area of Brown Dwarf sectors out that way so you need to follow a route that has refuelable stars dotted along it).

The NGC 3590 Open Star Cluster sits on the outer rim of the Orion arm. It becomes visible outside your cockpit canopy at around 500 light years distance and is well worth a visit. Follow the Orion rim to the Eta Carina Nebula. When I went during gamma it wasn't very impressive, but looking at the galactic map now it looks like the devs have given it some love and attention.

From Eta Carina, cross the interarm void into the Sagittarius rim. The star density is such that its probably best to have at least a 25LY jump capable ship.

Following the rim back you can use the V945 Scorpii cluster as a reference guide - its a cluster of some of the brightest stars on the map. From there its back across the void, into the Orion arm, visiting the Shapley 1 Wolf-Rayet system on the way home. A round trip of just under 30,000 light years.


ruz0p3.jpg



For those heading to the core regions don't take the direct route as you'll miss out on some stunning things along the way. The Lagoon nebula hardly gets a mention from explorers but its definitely worth a slight detour. From there its the long haul across to the CL Pismis star cluster embedded within NGC 6357 (there are some permit only stars in there that could be hints to a future FD event).

149rqee.jpg



From there if you're heading galactic core-ward, you'll need to cross the 3kpc - Norma Arm Expanse, the first half of which has a lot of brown dwarfs but thankfully plenty of refuelable stars amongst them. The expanse thins out about halfway across but then you're hit with a wall of stars as you enter the near rim of the 3kpc Expanding arm. Unfortunately anything after the 3kpc arm is playing Russian roulette as the game becomes more and more unstable with broken sectors (FD are aware of them thankfully). If you get stuck in them you won't be able to log on until game support gets to your ticket and moves you. Hopefully this will be fixed in a January patch.

4lrus5.jpg



If you've got this far you have got to visit the Greae Phio stellar forge - its one of the most impressive sites I've seen. There are also lots of supernova remnants dotted about the outer core regions, the one I visited was 1,200 LYs above the galactic centre - giving impressive views of the sheer amount of stars below you :)

2vb0g2g.jpg
I would love to see some maps from explorers on here as they give a rough idea of where to look for things. Eventually as well as raw data hints and tips in the thread there could be a whole catalog of explorer made maps and known routes for fellow explorers to follow? Something players can use to get their bearings from and check out for themselves if they're in that area of space?

Loving the route planning! A great addition! +1
 
To visualize everything i made this chart:

Hope it helps

Hey Buddy, could you add to your chart that MASS = More Credits also - the Bigger the mass of the object the more credits earned :) - Then I'll add it to the first thread under a spoiler tag as it's quite big but needs to be :) Great Stuff!
 
You wouldn't happen to remember what sort of system those Water Giants were in, PSB? The one at HIP 63835 is in close orbit with a brown dwarf but it's in the context of a big and complicated system so I don't know what to look for.

Very excited :D to have found a new Herbig Ae/Be star (at HIP 78756) so should get a value for those in due course. I'm trying to work out a loop round the (many, and spread out) Lupi stars.

Afraid not, other than the water giant don't remember anything spectacular about them, though. I THINK (and that's a very vague think) they were in the tranche I did between Xi-2 Lupi and halfway to the Coalsack, but that's obviously very little help ;)

Edit: it's worth noting I guess that's the same general area as HIP 63835, I may have a trawl on the map in a bit and see if I can retrace my steps :)
 
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