Guide / Tutorial Nutter’s explorers guide to the Galaxy

[virosh]

Well. This is it. The closest point on the grid. It is separated in quadrants so it is not a big field for search later.
The good thing when you select the system is that it aligns the coordinate map with the selected system. So you have the coordinates when you later want to search for it.

 

[Nuruodo]

Are there still people looking out for Ammonia Worlds to datamine? If so, I think I've found a pretty interesting one. For the adventurous types who'd like to go see this world in person, you can ignore the following screenshots and go to the star system known as Col 285 Sector JO-X c15-2.

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Definitely not your average orbital setup for such a world. The planets orbiting with the AW are HMCs, if I recall correctly.

 

[Jackie Silver]

I think all of the stars say "They range in mass from x to y " in the description, but at the same time you can find stars of that class that exceed these numbers several times. Are these just exceptions or are the entries bugged?

It's complicated. In short, yes, there are exceptions, and yes, there are also bugs.

There is a strong relationship between mass and spectral type (OBAFGKM) for stars on the main sequence (V), but it isn't exact - the main sequence on the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram is a band, not a straight line. Things like age and metallicity come into play.

The mass boundaries given in the class descriptions aren't exact, and if you look around the web you'll see different boundaries given in different places.

Also stars off the main sequence will not have the spectral class that you would expect if they were on the main sequence, so a supergiant star like Betelguese is class M, but it is very much heavier than a class M red dwarf.

And there are also what I believe are straight-up bugs like the tiny (well under solar radius) "giant" blue stars I've seen from time to time.

 

[Jackie Silver]

Are there still people looking out for Ammonia Worlds to datamine?

I am; principally I'm looking for medium to high mass examples. I'm heading for the monstrous 100 Earth mass Ammonia world that Nutter found upthread, and I have a number of examples for low mass Ammonia worlds, but nothing between 5 Earth mass and 100 mass Earth mass.

What I have now got is this: a curve formula which fits High Metal Content worlds.

Overall match from 0 to 30 Earth masses on the X axis, credit value on the Y axis.


It's not perfect, but it's good to within ten credits or so, which should be enough for practical purposes.

Match from 0 to 3 Earth masses.


Python script to generate those fit curves.

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adjustment = 1
power = 2
root = 1/3.4
linear = 10
initial = 2000

def calculate(mass,power,root,linear,initial):
    result = power ** (-(mass**root))
    value = (2 * initial) - (initial * result)
    value += linear * mass
    return value

mass = 0
for counter in range(1,32):
    value = calculate(mass,power,root,linear,initial)
    #print(int(value))
    mass += 0.1

for mass in range(0,26):
    value = calculate(mass,power,root,linear,initial)
    print(int(value))

Basically there's a small linear increase in value and an initially much larger increase (up to twice the initial value) which rapidly converges to twice the initial value.

I have yet to check it against other types of planet, but certainly it's promising.

Also: this is emphatically not my "thing", for the love of all that's holy will someone who likes maths look at this!

 

[S'Rau]

Uh ? Search engine works fine for me, it is case sensitive but with no capital in the names and it always finds the stars i am looking for.
The only thing i find tiresome is that at some point the map starts randomly saying systems need permits while it is not the case (en forbids you to enter ofc).

 

[CmdrPSB]

I am; principally I'm looking for medium to high mass examples. I'm heading for the monstrous 100 Earth mass Ammonia world that Nutter found upthread, and I have a number of examples for low mass Ammonia worlds, but nothing between 5 Earth mass and 100 mass Earth mass.

Hello! I've just scanned one of those very things - HIP 20567 7 is 47.54 earth masses. Thought it was a huge metal rich or some weirdly coloured icy planet until I scanned it.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Side question...can heat sinks be launched while in supercruise?

 

[CmdrPSB]

Side question...can heat sinks be launched while in supercruise?

Nope, afraid not.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Nope, afraid not.

I didn't think so, which is why I questioned to myself some suggestions, not on this thread, but in others, to bring a HS launcher on a long range exploring mission. If you can't eject them in SC, then they won't help a bit when jumping in really close to a star.

 

[virosh]

I didn't think so, which is why I questioned to myself some suggestions, not on this thread, but in others, to bring a HS launcher on a long range exploring mission. If you can't eject them in SC, then they won't help a bit when jumping in really close to a star.

They will help you not to cook yourself if you got really close to a star or jump out in the wrong place of a close binary star system. Mistakes do happen and having a heat sink can save your life in such situations.
I carry one. I didn't have to use it yet and i hope to get back without having to use it, but who knows what is waiting for me on the next jump...

 

[Eldrazzi]

I didn't think so, which is why I questioned to myself some suggestions, not on this thread, but in others, to bring a HS launcher on a long range exploring mission. If you can't eject them in SC, then they won't help a bit when jumping in really close to a star.

You can pretty much avoid this 100% of the time. When you're in hyperspace just throttle back to 0 setting (I've mapped mine to the "X" key). You'll come out of hyperspace at 30 km/second and wont' accelerate which gives you plenty of time to maneuver away from anything dangerous.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

They will help you not to cook yourself if you got really close to a star or jump out in the wrong place of a close binary star system. Mistakes do happen and having a heat sink can save your life in such situations.
I carry one. I didn't have to use it yet and i hope to get back without having to use it, but who knows what is waiting for me on the next jump...

That's the thing though...if you can only deply them in normal space, you can't move away fast enough to get your heat to drop, so it just seems to be prolonging the inevitable, unless you can dump enough, fast enough to get back into super cruise...

You can pretty much avoid this 100% of the time. When you're in hyperspace just throttle back to 0 setting (I've mapped mine to the "X" key). You'll come out of hyperspace at 30 km/second and wont' accelerate which gives you plenty of time to maneuver away from anything dangerous.

This is my standard procedure, and I always watch the final approach so I am ready to maneuver as soon as I have control again.

 

[virosh]

The thing is that even folowing the standard "Throtle to 0" procedure there is a chance to get out of the jump too close to a binary star and then immediately emergency drop out of SC.
Few Commanders have already described such experience, so it may happen.

 

[CmdrPSB]

Hello! I've just scanned one of those very things - HIP 20567 7 is 47.54 earth masses. Thought it was a huge metal rich or some weirdly coloured icy planet until I scanned it.

And while you're in the area there's a 5.71 mass one next door almost - HIP 20350 AB2

 

[Lodorenos]

I started taking notes and organizing them in the middle of my trip (and this is my first one). I wrote down on paper almost the whole route which i traveled until now by system names. However as Nutter mentioned earlier - the search engine in the Galaxy map is broken. Now i tend to also write down the coordinates of my waypoints and the end-of-100LY-jump systems.
I was thinking of organizing all data from the exploration in one database for easy search, however i found that the amount of work to get the data from the game and put it in a separate Excel sheet (for now) is tremendous. I wanted to have all stellar and planet bodies information available to me.
Now i just tend to mark how much and what type stellar and planet bodies a system have in my notes. Once i have more free time i will probably create the database with the most minimal information, like type, mass, size and temperature. Maybe distance...

Exploring without taking notes for me is kind a waste of time, and with the current broken galaxy map search engine it is even worse as i have the system names, but i cannot find them to check the data if i wish to.

Now i know how to optimize my notes and have more data written in more compact way for my next trip when i plan to have ASP and to go further away as possible.

I really hope that the API makes it possible to export full explored system data, and I do mean everything from solar mass to the orbital period of some random ice planetoid. I made the suggestion, now we just need to wait a month to see what comes of it.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=99437&page=25&p=1632038#post1632038

 

[mikeewhite]

What is the most money (record) you did make scanning a single system?

 

[Lodorenos]

What is the most money (record) you did make scanning a single system?

Sagittarius A* is ~320k CR or so. I don't think any system has been found that beats that.

 

[Ratlan]

I want to say 76k. I know for a fact i hit 54k one time. I am going to be selling data tonight, I hope to hit 6 digits! =D

 

[mikeewhite]

Nice. The most i did get was 55k. No black holes so far but i'm planning a long trip

 

[Ratlan]

Nice. The most i did get was 55k. No black holes so far but i'm planning a long trip

Same. I wandered out toward VY Canis Majoris, but got about halfway and ended up spending a few weeks just casually bouncing between a bunch of nifty big stars. I think this time I'll be heading out toward the neutron layer underneath the rim of the core.

Although, what I really would like to do is get a group of people together to go around exploring the constellation star systems. So far no bites though.