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Just stumbled in Sigma Orionis. Is it worth it going 0.26LY for a scan?

EDIT: Four and a half hours later - Sigma Orionis is mapped. :D
 
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it is annoying... before i could [plan route up to 110LY now it struggles at 60-70LY :/ what they should do... allow for route planner to try to set up route toward direction im looking or toward system i marked... not calculate all routes even though i specificly want to go in given direction. its like gps trying to send me from Berlin to Paris through Moscow and Kuala Lumpur first...
even better.. now i noticed it doesnt show me any systems past 18 LY in my navigation. i have to go to galaxy map and pick system i have route to coz cant just lock it in navigation panel since it is not there... had no probs before.. i was running a hauler with 30 LY range and it was flawless if i can say so... now runnig different setup with 26 LY cobra (just for better views really - before i can get to ASP) and it is all crap up in navigation... i recon its 1.07. i dont know what changed here but i saw someone on the forums complimenting better working galaxy maps for him. it certainly isnt for me.
anyone netoiced any changes ?
 
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it is annoying... before i could [plan route up to 110LY now it struggles at 60-70LY :/ what they should do... allow for route planner to try to set up route toward direction im looking or toward system i marked... not calculate all routes even though i specificly want to go in given direction. its like gps trying to send me from Berlin to Paris through Moscow and Kuala Lumpur first...
even better.. now i noticed it doesnt show me any systems past 18 LY in my navigation. i have to go to galaxy map and pick system i have route to coz cant just lock it in navigation panel since it is not there... had no probs before.. i was running a hauler with 30 LY range and it was flawless if i can say so... now runnig different setup with 26 LY cobra (just for better views really - before i can get to ASP) and it is all crap up in navigation... i recon its 1.07. i dont know what changed here but i saw someone on the forums complimenting better working galaxy maps for him. it certainly isnt for me.
anyone netoiced any changes ?

It's been this way for a few weeks for me. :/
 
Never had this issue with the mapper, i could always plot routes around 120-140LY without much issues. Yes, i need to wait a little until the planner populates the route i am going to, but when i am waiting to do so, i look around the nearby stars and try to spot any interesting star to visit on my way. I stumbled to some black holes this way and it was nice.

The other issue is that you may not have enough jump range for certain situations. In that case i would suggest to use economical instead of fastest routes and keep your fuel tank at 50% or slightly lower. Just make sure that you check all the stars on your route and note where you can and where you cannot scoop. This will make sure you don't end up without fuel somewhere.

EDIT: By the way, the scanning of Sigma Orionis system was half tank worth of fuel. I can't imagine the bill for W&T.
 
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I think I'm going to start using the gal map one jump at a time during exploration, rather than plotting multiple-jump routes.

Anyone else do it like this?

<~~currently attempting the flight from Sol to Sag A* :)
 
I think I'm going to start using the gal map one jump at a time during exploration, rather than plotting multiple-jump routes.

Anyone else do it like this?

<~~currently attempting the flight from Sol to Sag A* :)

I always jump that way, so I can choose the most interesting systems at my maximum jump range. And I prefer G and F stars to the others.
 
I think I'm going to start using the gal map one jump at a time during exploration, rather than plotting multiple-jump routes.

Anyone else do it like this?

<~~currently attempting the flight from Sol to Sag A* :)

i do it that way, when im on galactic plane. if you have about 30ly jumprange, then go 600ly above/below galactic plane and then head for Sag A. stars are not so dense as this level and there is also much higher percent of A,F and G stars with interesting planets.
 
Cheers Krunchie and Bobilon - your thoughts reflect what I was hoping to achieve - a more interactive and interesting method of navigation.

Onward! o7
 
So I'm currently heading for NGC 6357 Nebula. Now the big question, is my 26 ly jump range enough for this? I'm not sure if I'll go the entire way as I saw some other nebula on the way that I might visit, but if anyone's gone that direction it would be interesting to know. I'll be using my very revised exploration strategy so I won't "speedjump" anyway so I don't think time really matters, more concerned with reaching the Nebula (ie. star distances nearby).
 
I can't speak for NGC 6357 since i didn't go there (yet :D ) but in my last trip i found myself going back into known space to refit the ship for longer jumps because my 26 LY range was too short to reach certain clusters and/or nebulas.
 
Great news for explorers! :)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=106524

For this week’s dev update the focus is on the 1.1 update which will go into beta next week. First we have some good news for explorers. We’re adding the discovered by tag to the system map so when you view a body’s information you will see which commander first scanned and returned to sell the data for that body. Supplementing this we’re also adding information when you sell exploration data of the bodies contained within the exploration data being sold for a specific system. There’s also a change to enable selling exploration data a page at a time to help those who have been on long journeys of exploration!
 
This will be very interesting indeed.
What i also would like to see is star classification in the system map and not only in galaxy map. I may need to find where to post it as a suggestion.
 
A lot of people will be the first to discover lots of stuff, especially since it concerns the bodies in the system and not the system as a whole.

Now you can scan asteroid belts for the glory!
 
posted this elsewhere already but more useful here probably:

more explorer quotes from that thread:


Quote Originally Posted by MikeSnos View Post
Is the 'discovered by' tag going to be implemented retrospectively or just for discoveries from 1.1 onwards?


A: It should be retrospective.

Michael


Quote Originally Posted by Pecisk View Post
I think it has been mentioned many times that first time sell gets most credits, following ones gets less (how much less we don't know) - it's how it was discussed in DDF, and how it's implemented in the game.


A: It doesn't yet.

Michael



Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
Agreed. I would hope that explorers would have to survey at least some of the celestial bodies of a system to unlock the discovered by tag.

There could have been two categories, first visited by, and first explored by. Pingers just get the first visited tag, whereas explorers who put the time in to actually survey worlds get the explored by tag.


A: It's on a per body basis and the body has to have been scanned.

Michael


Quote Originally Posted by Kyudos View Post
What counts as 'discovery' in terms of exploration? Is it simply selling the data anywhere > 20ly from where it was collected? Obviously, you need to dock somewhere to sell it. Also, I assume it is 'galaxy-global' i.e., you sell it to the Pilots Federation, not to the Empire or the Alliance or the Federal Government?


A: You have to sell it to Universal Cartographics to register what you've found. The first person to do so will be marked as the discoverer. You can still sell the data even if you are not the first.

Michael


Quote Originally Posted by Adept View Post
Do you get full value for selling the data? has the cmpetetive aspect been dropped? It feels a little odd that systems get mapped thousands of times. It's not like we will run out of galaxy any time soon.


A: Being mapped many times isn't a problem. The system changes over time with orbits and so forth. We do want to add a first discovered bonus, but that probably won't make 1.1.

Michael


sounds like bunnyhopping friendship honking approach to exploration just lost a lot of appeal. Rightfully so. As first discovered is per system object and seems to be based on detail scan!

Can't say I like the "first sold gets first discovered" tag though. Should be based on scan timestamp. Not sell timestamp. Obviously only IF and once you make it home and sell. But if I return later than another Commander but my scan stamp was earlier. Then "discovered by Cmdr fasttraveler" should be replaced with "first discovered by Cmdr me".

Right now at the Omega Nebula. And I can't see me going all the way to Sagitarius A with that mechanic. But will probably head home much, much earlier....
 
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posted this elsewhere already but more useful here probably:

more explorer quotes from that thread:


















sounds like bunnyhopping friendship honking approach to exploration just lost a lot of appeal. Rightfully so. As first discovered is per system object and seems to be based on detail scan!

Can't say I like the "first sold gets first discovered" tag though. Should be based on scan timestamp. Not sell timestamp. Obviously only IF and once you make it home and sell. But if I return later than another Commander but my scan stamp was earlier. Then "discovered by Cmdr fasttraveler" should be replaced with "first discovered by Cmdr me".

Right now at the Omega Nebula. And I can't see me going all the way to Sagitarius A with that mechanic. But will probably head home much, much earlier....

+1 for collating

Great news for us explorers - I'll stick up the info in first post as soon as it's tested and confirmed in the game :)
 
Can't say I like the "first sold gets first discovered" tag though. Should be based on scan timestamp. Not sell timestamp. Obviously only IF and once you make it home and sell. But if I return later than another Commander but my scan stamp was earlier. Then "discovered by Cmdr fasttraveler" should be replaced with "first discovered by Cmdr me".

Right now at the Omega Nebula. And I can't see me going all the way to Sagitarius A with that mechanic. But will probably head home much, much earlier....

I am assuming that there is no timestamp in the DB entry for the scan data when the actual scan was performed. This maybe the reason why it will be implemented as "first sold".
I like your idea. It is more realistic for exploration for me. Go out on a trip, scan the data then return the data. Even if someone has managed to go there after you just for the scan and return to sold the data first, you will still be the discoverer of the system.
 
I actually have to disagree... If someone went to "discover" America same time as Columbus but went there and back in shorter time who would get glory? One that came back first or Columbus? Columbus would still get his "bonus" but he wouldnt be first to discover sort of thing.
 
I actually have to disagree... If someone went to "discover" America same time as Columbus but went there and back in shorter time who would get glory? One that came back first or Columbus? Columbus would still get his "bonus" but he wouldnt be first to discover sort of thing.

And I have to agree with you. Aside from the very real example you gave, it also adds a layer of complexity, and makes the explorer face the choice...go after just one more before heading home, or head home now for the glory...
 
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