Obsidian Ant video - ARX: Thoughts On The New Currency And What It Means

Please for the love of god do not remove 1:1 purchases. If I have to buy a 1000ARX pack and 500ARX pack to buy something that is 1200ARX I will not be spending any more money on ship cosmetics. Give me direct purchases or give me death!
Hate to say it, but this scenario is pretty much what I'm expecting. Fdev didn't decide to go this route because they thought it would make them less money than the present system.
 
ANOTHER VIDEO ON THIS???

Why so much interest on this Arx stuff?

Is it a game changer? No

Does this add new gameplay? No

Does this add some new game feature? No

Is it a new game concept? No on console this already existed.

Am I excited by the fact that this is the main content for September release? Absolutely NO!

Nothing to see here
 
ANOTHER VIDEO ON THIS???

Why so much interest on this Arx stuff?

Is it a game changer? No

Does this add new gameplay? No

Does this add some new game feature? No

Is it a new game concept? No on console this already existed.

Am I excited by the fact that this is the main content for September release? Absolutely NO!

Nothing to see here
Thanks for commenting :)
 
ANOTHER VIDEO ON THIS???

Why so much interest on this Arx stuff?

Is it a game changer? No

Does this add new gameplay? No

Does this add some new game feature? No

Is it a new game concept? No on console this already existed.

Am I excited by the fact that this is the main content for September release? Absolutely NO!

Nothing to see here
Is it a game changer? yes. I've multiples of thousands of hours in Elite across 5 accounts. I've spent literally hundreds of Euro on paint jobs and kits etc, and now, anyone can get all that just by playing, which is what I was doing.

Does it add a new game feature? yes. You can now play more and earn more arx.

Am I going to be refunded the hundreds of Euro I spent? In all fairness, with the hours I put in, I'd have earned enough Arx!
 
Is it a game changer? yes. I've multiples of thousands of hours in Elite across 5 accounts. I've spent literally hundreds of Euro on paint jobs and kits etc, and now, anyone can get all that just by playing, which is what I was doing.

Does it add a new game feature? yes. You can now play more and earn more arx.

Am I going to be refunded the hundreds of Euro I spent? In all fairness, with the hours I put in, I'd have earned enough Arx!
Your comment suggests that this will undermine the value of your previous purchases if it is too easy to earn the points in-game, I hadn't considered that angle as justification for keeping the in-game earnings at the lower end. I think to expect previous cosmetic purchases to somehow affect your ARX balance when they arrive is unreasonable, but I wouldn't be buying any new skins between now & implementation (if I were the type to buy any) :)
 
Your comment suggests that this will undermine the value of your previous purchases if it is too easy to earn the points in-game, I hadn't considered that angle as justification for keeping the in-game earnings at the lower end. I think to expect previous cosmetic purchases to somehow affect your ARX balance when they arrive is unreasonable, but I wouldn't be buying any new skins between now & implementation (if I were the type to buy any) :)
yeh me neither...

From a purely 'game play' point of view it is a great idea. IF there were no previous foundations in place. What we have is near 5 years of people paying hard cash for their paint jobs, and now Frontier want to give them away for free or, if you don't want to earn them via game time, you can still buy them with cash.

I know if that had been available, I'd not have spent a penny/cent int heir store.
 
Is it a game changer? yes. I've multiples of thousands of hours in Elite across 5 accounts. I've spent literally hundreds of Euro
Fair enough that you like it.. I respect your opinion.
Still it's not a game changer as long as cosmetics do not affect the game mechanics
 
Just to Godwin the thread...

There aren't many negative comments about Hitler on neo-nazi websites, but that doesn't mean opinion is universally favorable.

People gravitate towards fora where they can interact with people they agree with. Echo chambers are a thing.
This is why you see mostly positive opinions on the forums, it's like wondering why people like chess in a chess forum. People here are gonna like ED because it is a sub-forum about it.
 
Just read the Lavecon announcement and it sounds as if it is just another way to buy ship skins. As long as I can buy stuff from store as well, that'll be fine.

PS liked the idea of being able to change skin while out on a long trip in the void. Gives you something to do.
 
Please for the love of god do not remove 1:1 purchases. If I have to buy a 1000ARX pack and 500ARX pack to buy something that is 1200ARX I will not be spending any more money on ship cosmetics. Give me direct purchases or give me death!
That's pretty-much what I'm expecting; Arx will be sold in increments of, say, 1000 and store stuff will be bought for increments of 600, or whatever.

At best, I guess we can hope that the in-game earnable Arx rewards will be enough to "top up" our Arx balance so we can buy something else.

More likely, though, the theory is that if we buy, say, 1000 Arx and then buy a paint-pack for 600 Arx, we'll just piddle away the rest on bobble-heads or decals or whatever else just to spend the whole 1000 Arx.
In that case, it'll be up to us to prove that theory wrong.
 
The only thing that hits me hard with ED transactions is the exchange rate (yay Canadian dollar!) I still buy cosmetic stuff tho.
 
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...<snip>... and now, anyone can get all that just by playing, which is what I was doing.
Does it add a new game feature? yes. You can now play more and earn more arx.
Am I going to be refunded the hundreds of Euro I spent? In all fairness, with the hours I put in, I'd have earned enough Arx!
Well, not to be cynical but if the ARX-earning is going to be implemented in any way similar to modern games, a lifetime of playing Elite most likely won't earn you enough ARX but to get a single skin for the Sidewinder. In most cases the whole purpose of these "earn in-game" mechanics are to be so slow the players will (or at least be inclined to) take the quick road and just buy them with real money.

Obviously, I've no idea what FD have in mind or how they're going to implement this so this is just speculation. But them being a business and businesses running with money, I'm pretty sure FD would rather see the money.
 
Just read the Lavecon announcement and it sounds as if it is just another way to buy ship skins. As long as I can buy stuff from store as well, that'll be fine.

PS liked the idea of being able to change skin while out on a long trip in the void. Gives you something to do.
You can't buy them directly with real money on the store, only convert real money to ARX to then buy the skins. I think some people have the concern that the prices will be such that you'll end up doing something like:

  • Buy 500 ARX with £10
  • Buy 2 ship skins and have 100 ARX left.
  • Either play for 2 months to make up the 100 ARX (at 50 ARX a month maximum return for playing) to buy another skin, or buy another pack of ARX with real money to make up the shortfall. Rinse and repeat.
Some will rightly point out that if you play regularly that's not an issue as you'll end up with 100 ARD over two months and just buy another skin. Others would say it's a technique to either

a) Keep you playing
b) Make you pay more real money to buy the other skins you want, and still end up with ARX left over. That's different to just stumping up £2.50 for a skin and having done with it.

Until Frontier commit (I expect they'll be reading this and other threads) then we don't know.
 
Just read the Lavecon announcement and it sounds as if it is just another way to buy ship skins. As long as I can buy stuff from store as well, that'll be fine.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if this was still the case.
Don't get me wrong; I hope it will still be the case but I don't expect it to be.

Seems like an obvious banefit of this will be that FDev won't need to update the web-store for ED any more.
They'll just have to sell Arx there (along with the actual games) and then you'll do all your other shopping in-game.

Course, OTOH, that won't make a lot of difference if they still sell stuff for their other games in the web-store.
Anybody know if the "theme park" games are getting some kind of in-game currency too?
 
Just to be clear, from the Community Questions on the ARX FAQ
Thought that'd be the case. (y)

Hope FDev have the brains to get the Arx purchasing system up and running a couple of weeks prior to the update, so people have opportunity to buy their Arx without any kind of stampede causing a store meltdown when the update hits.
 
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