Oculus rift, vive and samsung vr (with phone) diffrence...

[e0s888]

Hi!

I have a question for those who use oculus rift or vive for this game and other sims.
I know some players using it for elite so this is the reason why I ask question like this here: Is it worth buying vr headset now for those kind of games?

Unfortunatley I can not check/test it right now (maybe in next two or three weeks) so all real and short experience I got with VR was with samsung VR (with included Samsung phone). Guy in store played me some demos ( it was just bunch of short movie clips ) and I was frankly dissapointed.
The image was like someone said on rededit ,,NTSC/PAL" quality. I also do not get the feel of the reality around me (like watching through window). Still clip with movie in theater was fun (looking down and see virtual armchair you are siting on - cool experiance).
SDE was quite big with it. After checking some posts about it I find that rift has smaller SDE then vive - still can not comparsion them to samsung vr because did not check first two of them. In some reviews people write about huge diffrence... Could someone confirm this?

Actually I have gtx 1080 and i4770k oc and playing on funny 26" monitor with all games on 1920x1200 so i dont even use 4k now...

Someone said the difference beetwen 4k and vr is still to big so he sold his vr.
Does in my case the difference will be same changing full hd to vr?
Could somone share his feelings about swiping to vr?

I will be glad if someone could share his experience with those vr headsets.

 

[cheru2016]

You can't compare a telephone with a $1.5k hmd.
You'll need to try it for yourself. Nobody can describe it for you.
It is awesome, though.

If you're just comparing resolution and pixel density/quality then 4k is leagues better than the current generation of VR in that respect, but a 4k monitor and a hmd are completely different beasts. You don't buy a Rift or a Vive to replace your monitor. You buy it to give yourself a new experience.

If it's that new experience you're after and you're not going to try and compare either headset with a high quality 4k monitor, you will be very impressed. If resolution is important to you, you'll be disappointed. ED in VR is the most amazing experience I've ever had, but the visuals are some of the worst I've seen out of the 60+ VR titles I own on Steam.

 

[mp4x]

This one is a personal thing. Some people equate screen resolution to immersion. It HAS to be HD for it to be good. For me, the difference is watching a game on screen and being inside the game. There is no comparison, for me; think about watching racing on tv, and actually driving your car. That's the difference.

No matter if it's 4, or 8K, you're still looking at it on a screen. In VR you're not looking at anything, what you see is just what you see in the space you now occupy

Re: using VR on a phone. There's a thread in here about VR on a phone. I've personally not tried it, but I understand what's needed to run VR well on a PC, and at this stage no phone can come close to CPUi7/GPU1080

 

[[VR] Merkir]

You can't compare a telephone with a $1.5k hmd.
You'll need to try it for yourself. Nobody can describe it for you.

This.

I have a CV1 as well as a smartphone holder headset. The smartphone is really just a toy and will seem disappointing. The CV1 (or Vive) is where VR technology is at right now, with hopefully second generation coming out not too far away. But you have to see it for yourself. No amount of descriptions can really relay what it's like, but since you asked anyway...

Compared to a reasonable gaming monitor, the resolution is low, screen door effect is an issue, there are god rays and banding. But IMO all of that is overshadowed by being there. You are not playing a space game on a monitor. You are the commander, in your spaceship. Your spaceship takes the place of your surroundings the moment you put the headset on. I play almost exclusively in VR now for that most overly of used terms - the immersion.

 

[Junky Juke]

Hello e0s888,

I'm the one who tested extensively ED in VR (ehm) on a smartphone 3d visor for about 1 week. I was able to make it run at a smooth 30fps (lol) and I was just amazed by the overall experience. Really. I didn't mind low res. It was so fun to watch around and I was convinced that I was in VR... well... I just was...
1 week later I finally received my OR CV1 and my brand new GTX1070. When I put the headset on everything I had experienced before on my nice monitor and my cool smarty visor was suddenly DELETED!!!

It is not easy to describe what you feel and what you see in a VR set. But I'll try.

-Everything is scaled 1:1.
-Ships' internals are REAL, BIG and full 360°. You are actually sitting on your chair in your ship.
-The HUD panels are displaced in a 3D environment and have depth, unlike the "crowded" hud shown on a monitor.
-You can finally activate the right and left panels by watching them in the right position and proportion (no it isn't the same of IR tracking on a monitor, where you have to kill your eyes and neck by turning and twisting your head)
-Worlds, Stars, Planets, Stations are BIG. So big that I often turn off my engines ans stop doing my things just to enjoy the view.
-Dog fights are real! Have you ever dreamed to be part of star wars-wing commander-battlestar galactica fights? well I'm doing it, I salute you from my cockpit
-Speed and void feeling is so realistic that your body will react to it. So exciting! I often find myself dodging that Viper that zipped at few meters from my window at full speed and I love racing in asteroid fields and canyons.

I could go on with the list.
I just want to garantee you, OP, that VR can't be compared to a 2D monitor, no matter resolution, quality and definition.
They are completely different experiences. Enev gear VR can't be compared to the Oculus/Vive.

This is just my feedback. Obviously a subjective point of view. As others said here, many persons consider HD eyecandy as a major immersion factor and can't justify the low res of a VR set. No matter if you are sitting on the commander's chair.

I suggest you to wait the few week you have to. Then you'll be able to judge by yourself if the experience is worth the cost. [up]

JJ

 

[mp4x]

I like to refer to this image when trying to explain the scale.

 

[e0s888]

@cheru2016 @mp4x @Merkir @Junky Juke
thanks a lot for your replies!
After reading multiple forum threads and your opinions I finnaly decided to buy rift...
I am veeery curious about the experience. And now I have decision to make... Play ED just after installing rift or tune it like in this guide (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/274325-How-to-get-Elite-in-VR-looking-CRYSTAL-CLEAR-D) for best first experiance... How do you think?

BTW: Is it possible to play freespace 2 open with hmd? I would love to see such a great games like freespace 2, morrowind or black and white in vr... Do you know anything about compability with vr?