Horizons 4.0 is not better than Odyssey, because it's just Odyssey Lite. My recommendation is to download H4 and go out exploring. If you love how it looks, and you encounter a bunch of atmospheric planets that you want to land and walk around on, then Odyssey is probably for you. If, on the other hand, you run into problems and find yourself hating the new UI and maps and terrain tech, then you'll know for yourself that you prefer H 3.8.
odyssey or not?
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Horizons 4.0 is not better than Odyssey, because it's just Odyssey Lite. My recommendation is to download H4 and go out exploring. If you love how it looks, and you encounter a bunch of atmospheric planets that you want to land and walk around on, then Odyssey is probably for you. If, on the other hand, you run into problems and find yourself hating the new UI and maps and terrain tech, then you'll know for yourself that you prefer H 3.8.
Just to add a positive example: The "plot course to mission location" button is a great addition.
I just wish it worked for non-settlement missions too, like for example... salvage missions
And on the same line, plot to bookmark is also good, but i still miss an all bookmarks layout instead of having to browse 5 categories.
thanks so much for your detailed reply
its really helped with envisioning what i can come acrossthanks for your detailed reply, really appreciate it
folks this is why elite has a great community, no salt, just what everyone thinks. really appreciate all the reply's and everyone's input here to my question. TBH, its just the same as iv seen in other posts, so i think once im done with this most recent community delivery goal il just boot up odyssey and lets see what its about lol, time to take the hit and hopefully its an improved experience in most respects, i love elite horizons and have had some amazing moments in it, if odyssey is an improvement on that then lets see it!! thanks again everyone , o7
Yes lots of good stuff in this thread.
The only thing I really have to add is that I played Horizons from September 2020 until Odyssey released in May 2021. And I've been playing Odyssey ever since without looking back. IMO, the on foot aspect has added a lot more to the game, and not just shooting, though I find that fun too.
Last night, while exploring in the black, I landed on an atmospheric icy body with 2 biologicals. The Fonticula were easy to find, but the Bacterium was very difficult due to scarcity and coloring. I ended up running around in my suit for 20 minutes, continually scanning (for audio clues) to finally find 3 disparate samples. The landscape was gorgeous...
They have already purchased Odyssey - H4 is not available to them. Good misinformation there!
OP: There are some who enjoy EDO (including me, who stopped playing Horizons during Alpha and since EDO release) and embrace the changes, there are others who dislike the changes for their own reasons, which, of course are perfectly valid, and others, who inform you by others opinions...
Best just play it - if you have plenty of overhead in 3.8 it may not be too poorly performing, if not, it isn't likely to be nice.
Form your own opinion of the lighting and terrain changes, it is vastly different to 3.8.
Also, supplement to my earlier post, I have Odyssey on all 3 of my PC accounts, and only USED TO reload to Horizons to get myself unstuck from situations that happened in Odyssey. I haven't had to do anything like that in months. I have been doing the current CG (the bounty hunting one) since last Thursday and am well in the Top Ten CMDRs contribution tier and have not 1 issue. No CTDs (example of Horizons content running in Odyssey). Before that I was Engineering all my Odyssey on-foot gear on the account I copied over from the XB (I purchased Odyssey on top of that to use the account as my Fleet Carrier commander). Other than the relentless grind to gather those resources I have not encountered anything major for that either and I've raided many settlements and done loads of missions (some hiccups along the way for sure). I like the on-foot stuff a lot and look forward to FDev introducing on-foot CGs..
The lighting (and shadows) can be weird, one would hope that can get sorted out.
The heat comment I made wasn't negative, but something you need to be aware of. Odyssey is more demanding of your system, and that translates to heat plain and simple. I am running an HP Omen with a GTX1070. Today I can say it's pretty stable.. This PC is in a pretty small room, so it can get too cold or too hot pretty quickly.
The lighting (and shadows) can be weird, one would hope that can get sorted out.
The heat comment I made wasn't negative, but something you need to be aware of. Odyssey is more demanding of your system, and that translates to heat plain and simple. I am running an HP Omen with a GTX1070. Today I can say it's pretty stable.. This PC is in a pretty small room, so it can get too cold or too hot pretty quickly.
One thing I didn't see mentioned in all the above (unless I missed it) replies OP is that going forward any new content will only be in the 4.0 clients whether EDH 4.0 or Ody 4.0. Someone did mention bug fixes earlier in this thread but not future narrative and content. EDH 3.8 is not going to see alot of bug fixes if any, and no new content.
So yeah if the Stargoids or Thargstars (updated count is 8 afaik) arrive at the bubble and burn every station, outpost and planet to the ground, all the content related to it will be in the 4.0 clients only I expect.
For myself I prefer the EDH 3.8 client to the EDH 4.0 client at the moment. Mainly for the visuals (skybox, lighting, AA, and planet terrain). I have not purchased Ody, but Fdev gave us 3.8 holdouts EDH 4.0 to try out. It give us the 4.0 engine, and menu's but no legs content (station concourses, planets for walkiing, fps, exbiology, etc). That should allow me to see and participate in any 4.0 client only content, if and when it arrives.
So I agree with the general consensus above try Ody 4.0 and or EDH 4.0 (if you have access) and see what you prefer.
So yeah if the Stargoids or Thargstars (updated count is 8 afaik) arrive at the bubble and burn every station, outpost and planet to the ground, all the content related to it will be in the 4.0 clients only I expect.
For myself I prefer the EDH 3.8 client to the EDH 4.0 client at the moment. Mainly for the visuals (skybox, lighting, AA, and planet terrain). I have not purchased Ody, but Fdev gave us 3.8 holdouts EDH 4.0 to try out. It give us the 4.0 engine, and menu's but no legs content (station concourses, planets for walkiing, fps, exbiology, etc). That should allow me to see and participate in any 4.0 client only content, if and when it arrives.
So I agree with the general consensus above try Ody 4.0 and or EDH 4.0 (if you have access) and see what you prefer.
Just don't get worried when you first start flying about in supercruise when you see your destination planet suddenly wink out of existence. It will reappear when you get closer but it is the most annoying thing I find in Odyssey, so much so that unless I am in the mood to go surface hunting for biologicals I always do exploration in Horizons.
I really hope they fix this because it is stupid.
3. You say you like exploration. Odyssey is on another level to Horizons. I can't comment on the other parts of the sim as I only play exploration. For exploration, Odyssey is like a good book which is hard to put down.
My opinion.
My opinion.
This also means that 3.8 shouldn't be getting any new bugs, either. These days I tend to dread updates (for any piece of software) more than I look forward to them, with just a couple of exceptions, because updates are just as likely to ruin something good as they are to fix something broken. For example, once again the latest update has downgraded my experience in MSFS, making me put that game on the back burner. I would have been happy if they had just left it alone while it was working great for me.
As for content, that's only an enticement if you like said content. While I've found the stargoids interesting from a "watching the news" perspective, it's not something that would engage me for any length of time from a gameplay perspective. Now if Odyssey were to someday offer base-building or ship interiors, that would grab my attention, but all this is subjective, since other people have made it clear they don't want this.
It is in maintenence mode... Any patch could follow the normal "break more than it fixes" pattern, perhaps intentionally
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Welcome! I read you prefer to explore and trade mostly, but if you decide to give the on foot part a go I strongly recommend you watch at least the first two tutorial videos by Stealthboy. There are tons of details about how to do on foot and how NPCs behave and detect you that you may want to get familiar with to enhance your experience:
Stealth is my favourite approach, but it helps a lot to have all the mods for it. Sneak in to disable the alarms first, steal or sabotage the thing, and then disappear like you were never there. Or silently take out the whole settlement one victim at a time, up close and personal or from on high with the sniper rifle.
My "space ninja" loadout is a Maverick suit with Enhanced Tracking, Improved Jump Assist, Quieter Footsteps and Night Vision. I have an Executioner and Tormentor, both with Magazine Size, Audio Masking and Noise Suppressor, plus Scope on the Executioner and Stability on the Tormentor. All together, it feels like being Batman, especially on the night side of a planet.
FWIW, I have been using EDO since the Alpha (Beta?) and recently fired up EDH. Couldn't wait to get out of it!!