ANNOUNCEMENT Odyssey: Update on VR and Ship Interiors
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Well, from a 90M active base, that's still 1.5M VR people.
I can only hope that ship interiors are coming sooner rather than later. Why? Simply because of scale in context. Being able to conceptually understand the scale of your ship inside and out is a fairly major addition to immersion in my opinion. You've bought 100 Tonnes of cargo? Instant contextual scale when you can enter your cargo bay. Your ship turns like a pregnant whale? Walk around it, it's huge and has mass and inertia. The other thing it adds is something that in my opinion being omitted wrecked Star Wars eps 1-3, that being a transition journey. Moving from your cockpit to the surface of a planet makes it more real and less of a game.
Fundamentally it's these thing that I think ED misses. It's the little transitions, the little touches that make it more personally real. Walking around planets and stations gives you a "body" in the universe beyond the ship, hopefully giving that body scale and context will help move it from feeling gamey and into being populated.
I also hope that NPCs will be afforded persons as well which will ultimately translate into NPC population which for me is one of the greatest things keeping me away from the game. It's just so damn empty even when a system has billions of people apparently populating it.
I'll keep watching and waiting to see how this plays out.
Fundamentally it's these thing that I think ED misses. It's the little transitions, the little touches that make it more personally real. Walking around planets and stations gives you a "body" in the universe beyond the ship, hopefully giving that body scale and context will help move it from feeling gamey and into being populated.
I also hope that NPCs will be afforded persons as well which will ultimately translate into NPC population which for me is one of the greatest things keeping me away from the game. It's just so damn empty even when a system has billions of people apparently populating it.
I'll keep watching and waiting to see how this plays out.
I am over the moon about the inclusion of VR. The projected screen will be just fine for me for launch. Being able to fly and drive around in atmospheres is gonna be amazing together with the new planet tech is seriously exciting. Officially back on the hype train.
Thank you soooooo much for listening FD.
Thank you soooooo much for listening FD.
ED PS4 doesn't support PSVR, and PS5 is not planned (yet). So even if there's retrocompatibility, it won't support VR on PS5.
I don't have my VR headset connected everytime I play Elite and didn't when the hardware report was sent.
![[VR] Orodruin](https://d2aefvhu2f0gi9.cloudfront.net/data/avatars/m/237/237188.jpg?1614840532){kind=avatar}
Very pleased to have a clearer statement on how Odyssey will interact with VR. While a projected flat screen is clearly far from ideal, I believe many VR commanders can work with this while hoping for a more extensive VR implementation in the future (for me personally, roomscale and/or motion controllers would certainly not be a requirement as transitioning from seated to roomscale while wearing the headset would bring its own can of worms).
This leaves less up to imagination and fears than earlier statements, thank you.
This leaves less up to imagination and fears than earlier statements, thank you.
Current info seems to be they have "no plans" to support the new consoles.
They won't even answer if the current version of E: D will even run on PS5. Pre-orders for the consoles are going live in 3...2...1...
Great update, I don't really care about ship interiors, good that you are focusing on locations.
Thanks for the update.
Thanks for the update.
What's the problem with this then? We fly in VR, we drive in VR but we can't walk. What is the problem with walking in VR? Help me understand because I just don't ATM.
On VR - exactly the solution I expected you to go with all along, regardless of the arguably premature, although not altogether surprising, whining from some VR users (and the assertions of no VR, no buy). Good approach all the same, until such time as you can make the on foot VR worthwhile.
On ship interiors - I see no need for them until you're ready to include adequate gameplay loops to go with it. Again, exactly the course of action I expected all along.
Thanks for the update. It is good for those who had these concerns to have some unambiguous clarity on what can be expected at launch. Looking forward to the next Dev Diary (SOON?).
Because they want to make sure you get the best possible experience perhaps, exactly as they have stated? Or would you prefer a sub-par on foot experience so people have even more to gripe about?
Hello,
Thank you for the update, I have further questions regarding the switch from VR to desktop and back. Your answers would be greatly appreciated.
1. Will we be able to also easily switch between game settings when switching display devices? For example some graphic settings, audio from VR headset to headphones, the image output itself etc. I would image this being handled by user presets, which could be switched at will from the game menu. Instead of fiddling with the individual settings one by one.
2. Since Elite supports head tracking like TrackIR in desktop mode as well, will the Odyssey portion of the game also support it? Can we look around without moving the whole body even on foot?
Thank you for the update, I have further questions regarding the switch from VR to desktop and back. Your answers would be greatly appreciated.
1. Will we be able to also easily switch between game settings when switching display devices? For example some graphic settings, audio from VR headset to headphones, the image output itself etc. I would image this being handled by user presets, which could be switched at will from the game menu. Instead of fiddling with the individual settings one by one.
2. Since Elite supports head tracking like TrackIR in desktop mode as well, will the Odyssey portion of the game also support it? Can we look around without moving the whole body even on foot?
I want to know what their perceived issues are. I'm walking around in loads of other FPS VR titles with no issues.
Locations are entirely procgen. There's nothing extra to focus on. It's a cop out.
Sorry, but once again, Frontier are taking the lazy "minimum viable product" approach, and then saying everything that should be there won't be "at launch".
History has shown that "not at launch" is FDev speak for "not ever". Nothing in this update changes that unfortunately.
exactly that were the reasons why the stopped working on instancing, powerplay, multicrew, squadron management, ... /s
Actually, thanks so much for this! This is a massive relief for fans of Elite in VR. I bought a headset recently and figured I'd just skip Odyssey because VR is f***ing awesome.
This means I'll undoubtedly buy Odyssey. Even though it's not an ideal solution, it's good enough to deal with for sure.
Hopefully this gets worked on and improved further - I am totally ok with any locomotion option, but I understand that having VR controls is a significant step from how VR works in the rest of Elite.
This means I'll undoubtedly buy Odyssey. Even though it's not an ideal solution, it's good enough to deal with for sure.
Hopefully this gets worked on and improved further - I am totally ok with any locomotion option, but I understand that having VR controls is a significant step from how VR works in the rest of Elite.
Excellent news!
Not to go all Oliver Twist on you, but is there any chance of getting a one-button toggle binding between our preferred flatscreen and preferred VR graphics settings?
Much as I love VR, while I'm not getting an actual VR benefit from the headset I'd rather the blasted thing was off than on, and I'd like the transition to be just a matter of pushing a button and removing/replacing the headset.
Not to go all Oliver Twist on you, but is there any chance of getting a one-button toggle binding between our preferred flatscreen and preferred VR graphics settings?
Much as I love VR, while I'm not getting an actual VR benefit from the headset I'd rather the blasted thing was off than on, and I'd like the transition to be just a matter of pushing a button and removing/replacing the headset.
I agree, though TBH, in VR, you can already walk around the bridge of the bigger ships or down the corridor behind the seats in a Fer-de-Lance. I would be nice to go round the corners in a Type 9 cockpit or through the doors in the Cobra, or climb down to the lower seat in an Asp, but I can live without it.
I've already had a nosy around the cockpits/bridges of several ships in VR, checked out the coffee machines and read the display screens, so until there is gameplay relevant to them, there's not much else to do.