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Odyssey Update - Weapon Engineering Recipe Fixes
- Thread starter Bruce G
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It was right now.
Good evening, can I clarify what it means:
Does this mean that these ingredients (for example, purchase data) will be completely removed from the game or will the unnecessary materials simply be removed in some improvements?
Taking a note here: only positive answers so far. Like in the old days (mostly). Encouraging! 
All thisnegativity stance toxicity has to turn around, and the sooner the better. It helps nobody, and in large parts, it's unjustified too. Let's face it.
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All this
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stormyuk
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Should have waited for the console version. Sorry.
(At least you can play it Northpin, small mercies).
My feedback...
Having non-removable mods and a very large amount grinding required to upgrade weapons and suits, points to the time requirements being "artificially" pro-longed. EG it seems to be designed to keep players in-game for as long as possible, for the least amount of content.
I would love to see the materials required being reduced by at least 50% or make them removable.
Please.
Even if it's a big text block, seeing the changes in context for what would be extraneous on which would be a good discussing point for what Frontier's targeting on material quantities.
Feedback points:
- Mods should at the very least be replaceable with another mod (similar to experimental effects).
- There are around ~65 data materials that are not used in -any- upgrade, mod or unlock. Assets have more pointless items than those with an actual use as well but it's much less. Still the sheer amount of useless data/assets is absurd and it seems to just be there to muddy the loot pools, making collecting what you actually need take a lot longer with the already un-fun RNG. Either reduce that stuff or make the requirements less, like at least 50% less.
- Individual data/asset limits please! The 1000 shared limit is terrible. We already went over this with the old engineering mats, why is this happening again?! I'm constantly at the 1000 limit, having to go back to a bar, use yet another 3rd-party tool to figure out which items have zero use and need to be sold or traded... this is not fun (and it's why I've stopped trying to upgrade gear altogether until big changes are made).
- Barman should/could be a data-trader, that would mitigate some of the ~65 useless data mats at least... It's weird they are not selling drinks and instead be a weird kind of pawn shop, but if anything would make sense for a barman is that he'd be selling information on the side, so data.
Though honestly this is just trying to fix more engineering grind which is not fun gameplay at all. What I think would have been more fun gameplay wise... if there was a science corner in a captain's office or even a separate lab room on large ships to analyze all the new plant samples, perhaps do research or have certain combinations unlock new unique gear perks/improvements (a la tech brokers unlock once buy after with credits), instead of this grindy mats + engineers way. It would be gameplay loops that'd make people have a reason to go out and scan all the new organic plants and unlock gear improvements along the way. But I guess since interiors are pointless according to Frontier I doubt that's ever going to happen.
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And this is why I haven't bothered with any on foot gameplay except exploration.
Sounds reasonable, or just making some of them more accessible/common would work for me.
All you have to do is get to allied status with the factions of a station and they start throwing huge amounts of materials your way for rewards. Since I'm doing the Imperial rank grind I'm allied with every minor faction in Ngalinn, Mainani, and Aitvas. On the board every manufacturing instruction reward is 4-5. With NPC mission givers that can be boosted to 10 with negotiation.
Glad you're fixing stuff but are these the kind of fixes that have pushed console back again, hardly game breaking
Also would like to point out the ridiculousness of 31 power regulators for a full suit upgrade from G1 to G5... while apparently SRVs run on just one. Not to mention the size of these canisters, where are they putting them?!? Why is this even a required material to upgrade a suit, makes zero sense. Maybe one for the required power but... ugh.
It really is not a problem to get enoug mats (in decent time) for upgrade on foot stuff once you learn how things works. And these mats are for engineer/trader (payment), it is not meant to be used in upgraded stuff
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There still problems regarding mats for unlock engineers.
Smear campaigns are too difficult ( I found just one and I'm grinding specifically for 3 weeks), restore power/recover base disappeared from a lot of systems.
Also "Opinion polls" seems excessively difficult to find imho.
I know many players found such things. But not all of us has huge amount of playtime just to grind dozens of very rare stuff.
I stopped to play ED just to find time to get mats for suits/weapons upgrades and engineering. That is too much.
