Old content getting another polish

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Au contraire mon ami. Introducing PowerPlay (Risk in Space) to all modes was a huge mistake from the get go. Creating an epic setting for universal player vs player conflict within Elite: Dangerous and then leaving it wide open to fifth column shadow sniping (some might even call it *whisper it* griefing) was the almost immediate downfall of PowerPlay. Keeping PowerPlay in a setting where all players are equal (same mode) is the only way to save a brilliant idea.

There is hope for PowerPlay yet.

Being it in Open will give you almost nothing, because I can totally avoid other players in Open.

Seriously, balance game on basis that players won't meet each other. Don't try to dream about EvE in ED.

 

[ZeroAi]

So Power Play has been brought to the forefront again.

Perhaps it's just me but why is this getting another polish.
The answer I believe is they have no real content coming, so they revert to unwanted old content and pop a forum post sure to cause contraversy.

Fiddling with PP is just pathetic waste of time.

I don't agree with PP going open only, but also don't agree they shouldn't tweak existing features and content.

In fact, if I understand them correctly that's a major purpose of "Beyond" and why it's free ;-)

Hopefully they are also working on new content for 2019, or on Elite Dangerous 2.

 

[MickyG1982]

Well at the moment you are looking at a situation where there there are a load of bots that can be used to do trading / missions / board flipping etc

https://imperium.news/botters-may-biggest-threat-elite-dangerous-galaxy/

From what I've gathered they do it by board flipping & then switching into solo to prevent interference from PvP in open (as FD have deliberately made combat difficult for them). While it won't eliminate the possibility of bot infiltration it will make them easier to spot, report & prevent if PP is made open only.

 

[orange_apecs]

Picture or it never happened! Don't think I've ever seen a glittering thunderdump...

Go to any festival where there's plenty of BBQ for a couple of days. Plenty of them in the Portaloo's by the end of the weekend.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

Proof:

[video=youtube;yiJ9fy1qSFI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI[/video]

It CAN be done.

But a polished turd is still a turd.

 

[Soon(TM)]

Actually, it's because they told us that they were going to improve existing features in this series of updates - hence why season 3.0 is not a paid for season in it's own right.

That's the worry isn't it. They said they are improving existing "features", not core mechanics.

I would gladly let them leave CqC ,RNGineers, multi crew and Power play as is - If it meant more Dev time spent on improving Mining, exploration and trading core mechanics and gameplay.

The majority of "features" suck, big time, let them die with the embarrassing death they deserve and improve the core game instead.

 

[babelfisch]

That's the worry isn't it. They said they are improving existing "features", not core mechanics.

I would gladly let them leave CqC ,RNGineers, multi crew and Power play as is - If it meant more Dev time spent on improving Mining, exploration and trading core mechanics and gameplay.

The majority of "features" suck, big time, let them die with the embarrassing death they deserve and improve the core game instead.

The focused feedback session for mining starts in 1 week and the one for exploring 2 weeks after it.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

That's the worry isn't it. They said they are improving existing "features", not core mechanics.

I would gladly let them leave CqC ,RNGineers, multi crew and Power play as is - If it meant more Dev time spent on improving Mining, exploration and trading core mechanics and gameplay.

The majority of "features" suck, big time, let them die with the embarrassing death they deserve and improve the core game instead.

Trading core mechanics have already had a big improvement. Mining and Exploration Focus Forums are coming very soon, in the next few weeks.

 

[Leadfoot]

Well I am an idiot, basking with her Glory for 136 weeks and one day now all alone with her in that marvelous tub, scrubbing each others back and what do I get? MY Hammers alright, while every one smarter then me flies ships
busting with marvels.

4 pages later....

Wait! What? Tub? Scrubbing her back? Bloody hell. When did this tub get added to the game and/or to PP??? No one told me about a tub. Or back-scrubbing! Without space legs? Are we bolted to the tub?

This is totally unfair! Salt!!! I needs more salt!!!!

Why doesn't anyone tell me about these things!?!?

Picture or it never happened! Don't think I've ever seen a glittering thunderdump...

One never "sees" such a thing. However, if done with enough force you end up with a very wet rear from the splash.

Still not a fan of 'Open only' idea, I already provided reasons why I don't support it, but overall most of changes seem well argued and some of them might even interest me.

I had posted in another thread the question that if you're UA bombing a station (or bringing in metaalloys to undo UA bombing) should that be in open as well (and for the same reasons)?

 

[Jex =TE=]

But wasnt the whole Beyond thing ment to address core game play, rather than add new content. Not saying its right, and I agree you cant polish a turd no matter how hard you try.

Well the core gameplay is the issue with the game. They're meant to be making the game fun by adding in better content to the core features of the game which are Exploration, Combat, Mining and Trading.

So we'd expect to see Exploration, Trade and Mining having BIG improvements so they start with - PVP powerplay on a game mode so boring the BGS falls asleep processing it.

 

[Jex =TE=]

The community has been asking for a Powerplay overhaul since 3 years on a regular basis. After space legs, atmos and exploration improvements it's probably the most discussed feature of Elite. Just because you aren't personally interested it doesn't mean that it should be abandoned and forgotten. Adding some meat to it would benefit the game greatly since a lot of CMDRs are asking for ways to shape and influence the state of the galaxy. The basic idea of Powerplay is pretty good, it's the implementation that needs to get addressed.

If you take a look at the different groups and playstyles within the Elite Dangerous community you'll realise that a feature which pleases all folks doesn't exist. Some people don't want space legs, others aren't interested in NPC wings and a whole chunk of players isn't interested in multiplayer. That's how it is.

But they're not addding any meat to it - they're doing the usual and MVP - by all means spend 6 months on it AFTER they work on exploration.

PP can go screw itself tbh - explorers have had nothing in 4 years and mining and trading have barely been touched either,

 

[Leo Sagan]

Perhaps it's just me but why is this getting another polish.
The answer I believe is they have no real content coming, so they revert to unwanted old content and pop a forum post sure to cause contraversy.

Beyond has been advertised as a revamp of various core gameplay mechanics. If one accept that PP is a "core feature" (for the record, I don't), it seems that they are doing what they announced. Now, is this a good way to revamp it ? YMMV, as for me, I think it is not.

 

[babelfisch]

But they're not addding any meat to it - they're doing the usual and MVP - by all means spend 6 months on it AFTER they work on exploration.

PP can go screw itself tbh - explorers have had nothing in 4 years and mining and trading have barely been touched either,

See above.

 

[Jex =TE=]

The focused feedback session for mining starts in 1 week and the one for exploring 2 weeks after it.

You mean they haven't even thought up what they're going to do and no work has started???

 

[avow555]

This game is going nowhere.
I would rather they shut it down now instead of this elongated polish of no core gameplay, powerplay being non core.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

This game is going nowhere.
I would rather they shut it down now instead of this elongated polish of no core gameplay, powerplay being non core.

Saying this while conveniently ignoring the mining and exploration updates that are coming and the rather good Trade update that already happened.

Difficult to take your posts seriously at the moment.

Maybe they should leave it open for the people that enjoy the game.

 

[babelfisch]

You mean they haven't even thought up what they're going to do and no work has started???

No, I mean we'll know more in 1 / 3 weeks. Or not...

 

[Snarfbuckle]

The community has been asking for a Powerplay overhaul since 3 years on a regular basis. After space legs, atmos and exploration improvements it's probably the most discussed feature of Elite.

I just fear that their solution and "polish" is to move it to open and believe that is what was needed and stop there.

 

[Henri]

i hear good things about polish programmers, cheap too.

 

[Certacito]

Now that sounds like PP to me. So yeah I stand corrected you can infact polish a turd.

You can't polish a turd, but, you CAN roll it in glitter!