Open Letter to E:D Odyssey Dev Team regarding planet surfaces, canyons, "hooning" and the risk of accidentally exterminating the very active niche

Gully Foyle

Gully Foyle
Alec Turner said:
Tricky. Is it too soon to have an open letter about something that we don't yet know will be a problem (i.e. they have repeatedly said that the planet tech in Odyssey wasn't fully enabled so I really don't think the fact that there are no hoonable canyons in Alpha necessarily means very much), or will it be too late to mention it after release if the worst fears (and they are just fears) expressed here turn out to be true? I guess it does no harm to make your concerns felt now. Worst (also best) case is that Odyssey launches, has stunning, varied and hoonable terrain as hinted at by Dr Kay and this all looks rather foolish in hindsight.

It might be a good idea to include a nice screenshot or two from Horizons showing the sort of terrain you mean as Frontier aren't always good at understanding words. I know there were questions about the ridges of Pomeche 2C and Arf reported back on a livestream that he'd checked it out and we could reset assured that it was covered in nice big craters. Errrr, craters are NOT even remotely the same as ridges and if you don't instantly know what Pomeche is like then you really aren't quite as in touch as you should be.

Oh, and re: the OP's suggestion of maybe preserving one or two planets from Horizons if hoonyans aren't going to be a thing in the future ... I'm afraid that's not how procedural generation works, at all. Basically in Odyssey the "procedure" has changed so what it generates (i.e. the surface of every single planet in the galaxy) has also changed.

Fingers crossed for the fully enabled planet tech giving us what we want!
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I've never understood worry about the future based on an alpha experience. I say open all the switches on the Odyssey (cobra 3.0) and see what the edge Pcs can fire at 8K
 

Northpin

Northpin
ZuluOscarAlpha said:
When some of the first replies are "Hilarious", "About time we got another open letter" and some banter about the difference between hooning and canyon running then it's easy to read them as hostile, since OP is being serious and the replies are poking fun.
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There is a time for Open Letters and a time for poking fun.
This one was a perfect overlap 😂


Now, seriously, it is nice it was raised but the combination of format and timing is really unfortunate.
 

Backelaer

Backelaer
Factabulous said:
So this thread is "Hey, we made up fun to fit with the planets we had, but we're not willing to do that again, so never change planets thx.". Hmmm.
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Come on man, read beyond the op.
Yeah, the "open letter" way of approaching this (or anything, really) is the wrong way.
But there are quite a few people that like to race canyons. And there's nothing wrong with them raising a bit of awareness to make sure those canyons don't entirely disappear with the new patch in my opinion.

For the record, I'm no canyon racer at all, never done it once though it's on the list. But I wanna ask you: isn't "hey, we make up our own fun" the core of this sandbox game? And aren't those people exactly the ones that you -of all people- should support?
 

zzazz

zzazz
An open letter on reddit that gets thousands of upvotes and hundreds of positive feedback is far more in line with the actual community that plays the game vs. this developer forum echo chamber salt mine.
 

Batwingsix

Batwingsix
Factabulous said:
Hilarious. IIRC Kay specifically called out things like Canyon running as something she was looking forward to seeing people do in Odyssey.
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It was mentioned that the ability to canyon run would remain, just the canyons wont be every single icy horizons planet like they are now.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
zzazz said:
I do not consent to having you quote me or reply to me.
Welcome to my block list
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AkenBosch

AkenBosch
zzazz said:
I do not consent to having you quote me or reply to me.
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That has to be one of the best things I've ever read in all of my 5+ years here.

Oh damn, but to write this I quoted inadvertedly! No! Not the block list! No, pleas---

Re: topic. I like casual, easy mode hooning from time to time. I get the worries. Enough to warrant a raise of awareness/concern, not enough to warrant an open letter before we even get to know what we'll actually get. As Alec Turner mentioned, I hope this OP will turn out to have been a bit of a silly initiative in hindsight, in a good way.
 
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