Open Letter to FD 2 from the community

Please, show me in writing the special snowflake bobblehead is for all eternity locked to lepers.
I want citations of the EULA, the relevant british laws and the bible, at minimum. Human rights convention will suffice, too.

I can help you with the Bible part... Insofar as showing that LEPers feel entitled to help themselves to everything ;)

And when these LEPers came to the outskirts of the camp, they went into one tent and ate and drank, and carried from it silver and gold and clothing, and went and hid them; then they came back and entered another tent, and carried some from there also, and went and hid it.
2 Kings 7:8
 
I'm rude while you call people zealots who question what you are saying. You can't make this crap up can you.
No I call people's zealous that behave like zealots. Your type I've always been around, yet you always at completely clueless as to why anyone would have issue with you. Your type have always hindered discussion here, from the very beginning.

One of the worst thing newer players can do is come here and expect open discussion, because the Frontier zealots will ride in to undermine and insult them for daring to post an "unapproved" post.

I genuinely believed the damage has been done, and it's thanks to the incompetence of the moderation.

You may see yourself as justified but truth be told you're just serial harassers. The kind of people that take advantage of anonymity to be the kind of people they are in real life.
 
Like I said I see no reason why your games should not be $800 a piece, because based on that mentality you do not have to pay it, therefore there should be no problems with that pricing structure.

Agreed, there's no reason at all games should not be $800 apiece.

Hardly anyone would buy them, it would hurt the company, but it's not a necessity, it doesn't cost me anything if I choose not to pay it. If I don't think something's good value, I vote with my feet or my wallet, not by immersing myself in a stew of fixated negativity and grievance.

Last I looked at Star Citizen, you had to buy a ship with real money, quite a lot of real money, in order to play the Alpha. It was more than I was willing to pay, so I didn't. I didn't go on the forums and complain, didn't start a campaign, I just moved on with my life and didn't think about it again till now.

I've bought games on Steam that I hated. I posted maybe one negative review, then moved on. Done. Out of my life. I don't fill up my life with thoughts about them, or fill up the forums of those games with my grief. I could have, I would have been within my rights to do so, but it would have been a waste of my time to write it and the time of the people who actually enjoy those games to have to read it. It would have been reasonable of them to complain if I'd done so.

There's a whole world of experience out there. Elite Dangerous isn't an oppressive regime you're trapped in. Don't like it to the extent of it making you unhappy, move on to something else. Life's too short.

There are battles to be fought in this world, against oppression and censorship. The forums of an entirely optional computer game isn't one of them.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/toxic:

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Seems like the habit of focusing so hard on negativity, while refusing to let go of a sunk cost, might be causing people a little harm and unhappiness over a long period of time...
 
Truth is not toxicity, unlike your parents other people are not required to tolerate or sugarcoat for your rudeness.
That's another trait of the self-centered is to always tell others to relax when they have genuine criticism. That's a sign of immaturity, you've clearly never been challenged on something.

the reason people like you become what you are is because your parents relaxed too much.

You're not old respect just because you believe you are, when you carry yourself in an oppressive way like that expect that response.

Bad people offline are bad people online. This forum is as hostile to new people as it is because people like this group have not been handled properly.
I don't care what you stand for and what truths you're defending. I might agree or disagree with them.
My truth is you're toxic internet person bent on insulting and creating flame wars. An Aswhole if you will.
 
That's another trait of the self-centered is to always tell others to relax when they have genuine criticism. That's a sign of immaturity, you've clearly never been challenged on something.

the reason people like you become what you are is because your parents relaxed too much.

You're not old respect just because you believe you are, when you carry yourself in an oppressive way like that expect that response.

Bad people offline are bad people online. This forum is as hostile to new people as it is because people like this group have not been handled properly.
Lol, your on a roll mate. I wonder what superlatives you have left when there is really something going on 😂
 
I could reply in an offline manner but I don't drag people's parrents into a dispute or refer to personal insults and namecalling in general.
Once again it's not name-calling if it's true. There is a difference between criticism and a zealot. You all are zealots because your criticism is not actually based on ever being helpful, your criticism is based on your personal bias that anyting critical of Frontier is automatically not welcome, let me give you an example.

New poster: "You know Elite Dangerous is fun but I wish it wasn't so difficult for me to unlock ____. It feels so tedious sometimes".

Zealots: "You know I really don't personally see anything wrong with earning _ . I have about a hundred as we speak. People always come here expecting something for nothing, everything can't be handed out to you. Why should Frontier change drop rates for you?"


You're the kind of people this forum is made worse by.
 
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No most of you are actually just toxic, oppressive harassers that feign ignorance when you are called out for it. Truth be told most of you argue for anything Frontier related, which is evidence of not having standards.

It is people such as yourself to have been long-term problem on these forums, the kind of people that discourage open discussion and free will, especially among the the newer players that post here.

If the argument is simply that people don't have to support something or buy it, I see no reason why your games should not cost $800 a piece. After all you don't have to buy them.

This came very surprising and out of nowhere.
I am interested in your views and your way of seeing others, but it seems to be offtopic here. Do you mind opening a new thread where we could discuss this in depth?
 
Bad people offline are bad people online. This forum is as hostile to new people as it is because people like this group have not been handled properly.
Hold up, we're not dogs. Talk to people like they're people and you might get a more reasoned response. We're not reacting to the (valid) position that there's issues in the game. We're reacting to you and your language.

You do more damage to any argument posting the way you do than any 'white knight' ever could.

OP posted a joke, y'know- humour. It's a game.
 
I can help you with the Bible part... Insofar as showing that LEPers feel entitled to help themselves to everything ;)

And when these LEPers came to the outskirts of the camp, they went into one tent and ate and drank, and carried from it silver and gold and clothing, and went and hid them; then they came back and entered another tent, and carried some from there also, and went and hid it.
2 Kings 7:8
Welp. I guess there goes my petition...
 
Whoa lead the charge man.

To extend an olive branch though, I really feel for these people. It must be hard, draining and demoralising to come in every day and still call the joust when the maiden is no longer pure. They can’t win but they come anyway.

The only thing to ease their misery is to suggest to get back to playing elite dangerous rather than gaming on frontier developments.
No it's just excuses for genuinely rude people to be what they are. It shows me the genuine immaturity because they respond exactly like I knew they would.

Feigning ignorance as to why anyone could see them as a hindrance to the forum, telling you to calm down, calling you the insulting one for noticing their bad character.

Like I said the kind of people I would never hang out with in real life. The kind of people ruin the entire mood of a party for instance.

Basically spoiled, and behave like spoiled children.
 
Once again it's not name-calling if it's true. There is a difference between criticism and a zealot. You all are zealots because your criticism is not actually based on ever being helpful, your criticism is based on your personal bias that anyting critical of Frontier is automatically not welcome, let me give you an example.

New poster: "You know Elite dangerous is flying butt I wish it wasn't so difficult to me unlock ____. It feels so tedious sometimes".

Zealots: "You know I really don't personally see anything wrong with earning _ . I have about a hundred as we speak. People always come here expecting something for nothing, everything can't be handed out to you. Why should Frontier change drop rates for you?"


You're the kind of people this forum is made worse by.

You haven't read many of my posts have you.
By now I consider myself as a professional complainer regarding ED and Fdev.
 
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No it's just excuses for genuinely rude people to be what they are. It shows me the genuine immaturity because they respond exactly like I knew they would.

Feigning ignorance as to why anyone could see them as a hindrance to the forum, telling you to calm down, calling you the insulting one for noticing their bad character.

Like I said the kind of people I would never hang out with in real life. The kind of people ruin the entire mood of a party for instance.

Basically spoiled, and behave like spoiled children.

Yeah I know.

But it’s good to keep the high ground and not be like them.

Also without them, everyone would just agree and we wouldn’t have anyone to talk to. So as rude as they are I got used to it. Using logic wins because they’re just being xxxx as you say.
 
No respect is earned not given, there goes that self-centered nature again. Nobody owes you that. When you behave like an oppressor you are treated like one.

I hope I do damage because that's the intention, people that don't deserve respect don't get it from me. Let me post this example again.


New poster: "You know Elite Dangerous is fun but I wish it wasn't so difficult for me to unlock ____. It feels so tedious sometimes".

Zealots: "You know I really don't personally see anything wrong with earning _ . I have about a hundred as we speak. People always come here expecting something for nothing, everything can't be handed out to you. Why should Frontier change drop rates for you?"


People like that basically are dogs, actually it's not fair to dogs to even compare them to people like this. Dogs at least tend to be balanced and helpful, most of you are just overall negative influences on the forums.

What would the proper way to answer "New poster" ?
 
Please, show me in writing the special snowflake bobblehead is for all eternity locked to lepers.
I want citations of the EULA, the relevant british laws and the bible, at minimum. Human rights convention will suffice, too.
"God did create the Earth and all creatures that walk upon it's surface, the flying creatures of the heavens, the fish of the sea within six days. On the seventh day god rested. When he returned to his labours on Monday his email did runneth over: the humans to whom he had given the earth and all creation had petitioned in earnest.
They spake thus:
Oh lord, we are grateful for this earth and our dominion over it. However there are bugs, many bugs and creepy crawlies. Yeah and just last night I was awakened by a terrible scream Adam discovered spiders that goeth about the place with hairy legs. Oh lord doth ye knowest how long it takes to put spiders outside when we live in a garden?
Adam, setting down his rake was next to spake:
First oh lord spiders have eight legs to cause evil, we are as yet naked and who knows what they could do unto my loins.
The lord our god doth claim to have a myriad of angels yet none seem corncerned with this spider problem. We have legs and an atmosphere but where are the space ships that were foretold in the prophecy of Just After Tea On Wednesday. The amound of pigment readily available for Eve's woad is somewhat lacking in variety.
I fear if these concerns are not adressed by potty time the planet will be dead.

God did cast upon this the eye of incredulity and did put emnity between them.
 
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