And failing balancing brought UO to death. Better no users than fewer users ?
Open-Only in PP2.0?
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I'm going to investigate as I find the story fascinating, no idea what caused the decline. I am aware that certain behaviours lead to short term interest in games, but those folk have very limited attention and low boredom thresholds as such are not good long term players, where as other folk will be far more consistent in their habits and a loyal fan base.
I guess the fine art and sorcery really is getting the tuning just right; Why I think elite or rather frontier are doing a great job so far. I think that the real key to this is the scientific realism, that this is the ace that keeps the thing afloat.
Oh! there is no game out there as fascinating as Elite is
I am hearing from streamers on Twitch that the Mandalay is available in the Test server, AND the PP2.0 changes. I wonder if any streamers will try out any pp2.0 stuff Soon(tm) as it is Raijin bombing time, and the Mandalay ... who will pick pp2.0
Robert Maynard
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Open is a mode where the player may shoot at anything they instance with, where they may block any player they encounter; where they may choose to leave at any time (possibly subject to a delay) - that's what Open is, noting that some players only accept a subset of what Open actually is.In fact we don't need moderation, Open play is....open
Robert Maynard
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While it is one possible objective, it is not mandatory that any player either attacks other pledged players nor presents themself to be attacked by other players.
Its making the experience of being in Open in PP 'whole', given that features of the wider game don't fit when elements of strategic opposition get mixed in.
Other examples besides blocking: being able to log out during combat, swap cargo between modes. To make Open have consistency requires these loopholes be closed.
We will have to see next week what FD have done, but its these considerations that will provide better experiences.
But to maintain consistency inside open it has to be a possibility and not subject to 'opt out' rules that disrupt that line of play. For example, attacks on haulers should be dealt with by in game means rather than using block or swapping modes arbitrarily. Otherwise attacks are pointless, when they do serve a function.
Surely you would first need consensus upon it being broken? I'd argue that sharding instances is a more realistic rendition of time or rather spacetime, than a global instance that maintains some imaginary galactic clock.
What I'm arguing is that (for PP) the easiest gains are tweaking rules to keep play flowing. Instancing is what it is, but when it does align you need consistency of rules too.
But this is an online game and of course there are limitations due to the real world which calls some times ... Hang on, that's my doorbell, pizza delivery I hope!
Robert Maynard
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What is "consistency inside open" when no player needs to play in it?
What to explain? This not about the choice but what happens when you are in open in PP.
So? Does a Medusa pause because your bowels are full? There is no pause.
You could try playing in solo, if other peoples needs inconvenience you?
Robert Maynard
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... and from reviewing the rest of the post quoted it would seem that there is a desire, for some, for players to be forced to remain in Open against their will to satisfy the desires of other players.
You have this backwards- in Open you are each others content- in essence you are 'other' NPCs. In a Powerplay context blocking or quitting out invalidates what the other person was doing and hence why rules have to be different, given PPs unique way of doing things re merits.
Brother Sabathius (on twitch) is reading through the in-UI "manual" just now, if anyone's interested.