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Which has been stated in many many other threads as simple to do by avoiding areas with dangerous players.

Making a whole new splinter for another group to play in another way, where would it end?

ED 2017 ... Load up and select from 26 game modes....

Open is Open, people need to accept that and deal with it.

This isn't about hurting peoples feelys, its about a game mode that is working as intended for a large group of the player base.

As much as I hate Solo and Private groups as an escape route from danger, they exist.

If Mobius was such a required mode, there would be a lot more than 10-11k of members. Which is 0.022 of the player base. ( Based on apparent copies sold )

People have google and I am sure they could find that group within a couple of searches if the demand was that high.

Actually just tried.. Type in PVE Elite Dangerous and their website is the second result.

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Then what would they have meant in the marketing material as "your deadliest enemy" .

Majinvash


Rather than splintering the players, it would bring the Co-Op oriented player more closely together. It would spare the originators of private groups with no PvP rules a lot of administration time, allowing them to play more. A core concept in E: D has always been the ability to choose whom you play with. A Co-Op option on the log in screen would allow for a diverse community to come together with a different set of goals, than those who choose open.
 
LOL sorry, my opinion is not going to change. Thanks though for your input. :) I will continue to ferociously defend open mode and it being the true style of play. I am not, however, being insulting. You are, though.

Erm, you may want to read this;

E3 2015 Interview (17th June 2015);

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/0...-david-braben/

I pointed out that there’s frequent contention online about the “right” way to play, be it casual or hard-core, and Braben agreed. “But there shouldn’t be a ‘right’ way,” he said. “You should do what makes you excited. I don’t want there to be a ‘right’ way, because then you’re not necessarily playing the way you want to play. And people have come up with lots of suggestions, some of them very constructive and sensible, and we do listen, and people hopefully have seen that we’ve changed things and adjusted things, but not in a way—we hope!—to upset people. We’re doing it to make the game better!”

To highlight something from that above quote;

“You should do what makes you excited. I don’t want there to be a ‘right’ way, because then you’re not necessarily playing the way you want to play."

So, you are completely wrong saying there is any "true style" - as DBOBE himself said, there isn't.
 
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Open is Open, people need to accept that and deal with it. ....

No, people don't have to "deal with it".
See my above quote from DBOBE, your play style is YOURS.

FD want everyone to enjoy the game without stepping on each others toes, hence the modes.
At the moment there is no information in the game that lets players know they do not have to put up with unwanted PvP, an Open PvE option on the menu would let them know just that.

Also, why should the community have to rely on one member of the community - what if Mobius gets fed up spending hours sitting there clicking the accept button and quits?
That would stop new people from joining and taking part in the co-op side of the game (and social side), away from those who just want blast everything they see.
 
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LOL sorry, my opinion is not going to change. Thanks though for your input. :) I will continue to ferociously defend open mode and it being the true style of play. I am not, however, being insulting. You are, though.

Why is it you cannot understand that people are not all like you and if they are in solo or groups they are not "hole hiding".

Because they are. AI is so 1983.

You are saying that solo and group players are hole hiding cowards, but that's not insulting amirite ?

Open mode wouldn't be modified. The proposition is about creating an official PvE mode, people who likes Open will stay in it. Or maybe Open advocates are afraid that that people who don't know about Mobius may choose PvE instead of Open ?
 
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Majinvash

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No, people don't have to "deal with it".
See my above quote from DBOBE, your play style is YOURS.

FD want everyone to enjoy the game without stepping on each others toes, hence the modes.
At the moment there is no information in the game that lets players know they do not have to put up with unwanted PvP, an Open PvE option on the menu would let them know just that.

Also, why should the community have to rely on one member of the community - what if Mobius gets fed up spending hours sitting there clicking the accept button and quits?
That would stop new people from joining and taking part in the co-op side of the game (and social side), away from those who just want blast everything they see.


I know you love quoting that one sentence but it means nothing!

By that statement, station ramming is a legit and supported game style.

And also it's not the community that wants it.

It's like I have said before in the open vs solo thread.

It's you and the same 6-7 möbius players filibustering everyone and anyone who likes player conflict.

If this game mode was really wanted or needed Möbius would have a damn sight more members than the poultry 11k it has.

But please over quote something that fits your narrative .

Majinvash
 
needed Möbius would have a damn sight more members than the poultry 11k it has.
Majinvash

Do you not think that is because it is not an official mode and that you have to be a member of the forums to know about mobius? or do you really believe that only 11k would play in it if it was as widely advertised as open and solo?.
I know the existance of mobius scares you but I am afraid you just have to accept that there is demand for multiplayer that does not involve actual conflict and no amount of people trying to ruin the mode by deliberately griefing in it will change that.
 

Majinvash

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Möbius doesn't scare me.

It doesn't have enough members in it from the 500k that it could have.

Mode switching is my biggest grip and the effect safe mode could have on factions.

Play in safe mode, run into open for a bit of excitement and then run away again because you can't handle it.

Then scream PVE when you lose your pretend ship.

Working as intended

Majinvash
 
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If you're going to measure the success percentage of the Mobius group you need to measure against the active forum members. No-one else has any way of knowing about it.

A pve mode would gain much more traction which is why some don't want it.

I wouldn't use it personally unless all the people I know used it. But I don't have any objection to it.
 
I love how you assume that many of us for a PVE server and against your way of playing are new to MMO's.. Sorry Charlie but you are wrong. I've been PVPing and MMOing since MUDs such as Trade Wars, and MMO's like Ultima Online came out and dealing with PK jerks the whole time. I've spent my time in mindless PVP and even then at no time did I use PVP as an excuse to try and ruin others gameplay. My time of endless PVP is over, it is not something I want to do. I will agree with you on one thing, I've made the comment multiple times in another thread about those who play in open policing themselves. That they needed to fix the problem, but have met with denial.

You have no more experience than I. I wonder if that MUD was The Realm. You don't have the market cornered on experience. And the 'shut up' comment. Pure hubris.

None of your arguments are more than a simple warning of Murphy's Law. Get over it. Open-PvE is still a damned good idea. I'll offer to moderate the complaints as a volunteer myself. Things, silly outbursts, can be overcome super easily. Nothing you have said is any reason not to have an Open-PvE option. It's just some fear mongering to try and dissuade players from a good idea.


Then how is any of what I said mysterious or counter-productive? If you've got the experience, use it. You've got the largest organized group of players in the game by orders of magnitude. Use it.

And no, it certainly isn't The Realm, Realm was 6 years too late.

http://www.play.net/gs4/
 
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I just found about this group with 102h of Solo play. Would definitely have joined earlier but even now it was just pure luck I saw this thread and decided to read what it was about. I don't like conflict and since if it's a another player then that person who initiated the conflict probably has more experience and better fitted for the job so less risk for him and since the person seems to enjoy that and I don't thus a like minded group is what I'm after. I'm a lone wolf but not a sociopath ;)
 
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I know you love quoting that one sentence but it means nothing!

By that statement, station ramming is a legit and supported game style.

And also it's not the community that wants it.

It's like I have said before in the open vs solo thread.

It's you and the same 6-7 möbius players filibustering everyone and anyone who likes player conflict.

If this game mode was really wanted or needed Möbius would have a damn sight more members than the poultry 11k it has.

But please over quote something that fits your narrative .

Majinvash

I love how in one thread forced PvP advocates claim people should not have to research the game to know it is mainly co-op/PvE
And now the claim is, people should have to research it to find a private group dedicated to PvE. Yet again you guys cannot make your minds up.

If our meager 11k membership is not a threat to you, then why worry and fret so much over letting the entire playerbase know about us?
If you truly believed in your play style, what difference would a PvE option on the main menu do to you?

I really makes me laugh how you and your friends throw around words like "cowards" and "hiding" - but you're the ones kicking and screaming
over the rest of the player base getting on with the game how the Developers intended, leaving you sat twiddling your thumbs.
You are providing the proof just how scared you are of being left alone in Open PvP by all the shouting you and a handful of others are doing.

Oh and if you want to play the numbers game, the links in my sig show how many of your kind want forced PvP, no where near the number of people
that joined Mobus. There is a call for pure PvE and your own behaviour proves why it is needed.
 
I just found about this group with 102h of Solo play. Would definitely have joined earlier but even now it was just pure luck I saw this thread and decided to read what it was about. I don't like conflict and since if it's a another player then that person who initiated the conflict probably has more experience and better fitted for the job so less risk for him and since the person seems to enjoy that and I don't thus a like minded group is what I'm after. I'm a lone wolf but not a sociopath ;)

Once again needless insults. Just because players like killing other players--or interacting with them, it does not make them a sociopath.
 
Once again needless insults. Just because players like killing other players--or interacting with them, it does not make them a sociopath.

Seen the list Cody posts?
They would be the "needless" insults thrown at anyone who does not want PvP or does not play 100% in Open.


Also, you're not innocent of it either;

.... We don't need to encourage even more hole hiding.

Not exactly a compliment, making an accusation people are hiding.
 
Just because players like killing other players--or interacting with them, it does not make them a sociopath.


Actually, someone that shows no conscience when imposing consequences upon another without consent does display very significant indications of some degree of sociopathy.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sociopath

Additionally, please don't confuse "killing other players" with "interacting". Many of us enjoy very successful social activities without ever beating our chests or trying to pwn anybody. One never needs to kill another player, nor bait them or mock them or taunt them personally, unless one has the intent to cause them abuse, grief or harm.
 

Majinvash

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I think you are confusing real life with games again.

Read the original marketing.

Not the kick starter, but the way the game is marketed.

It pretty much says you can be a bad guy and that you can do what you want while interacting with other players.

Jockey will find something that someone said at some point that will counter that I have no doubt but he is a single person on a forum.

I refer to the current ED website.

That is the game that most of the player base saw and bought.

I was a sponsored Count Stike player and I played COD until it got simplified for the masses and the learning curve vanished.

I am yet to take a gun ( which I have access to ) and go on a killing spree.

I also played Tetris and am yet to build a wall.

Majinvash
 
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