Operation Enigma, breaking the code!

It's basically my attempt of solving this "race war" between the two groups.
Even if there is one (which I highly doubt reading Mobius' reply), than this is not the thread for it, create one yourself for this.

The idea in this thread has nothing to do with mobius, and prolly never will.
 
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Jeez. Aggressive or what?

Sorry if you found the use of Mr Philips aggressive, personally if I ever met you it is how I would address you but that's just the business person in me. As to it not being me or you, well I have my hands full at work. Working with a team of developers, making games. So I do understand a little of what i am talking about.
 
And therefore the principle of equivalence is not applicable in this case mate, really :)

But enough about that. As Dave mentioned, lets keep this thread on topic.

Sure, let's say on topic.

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Even if there is one (which I highly doubt reading Mobius' reply), than this is not the thread for it, create one yourself for this.

The idea in this thread has nothing to do with mobius, and prolly never will.

Mobius and I already came to pretty much an agreement, we'll let the topic drop.

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I am aware, I live there half of the time, after all :p
 
I like the FIFA approach. If during a FIFA football game someone runs on the pitch or does something idiotic, the cameras deliberately pan off them until security steps in. No attention and no advertising.

Ignore them. Don't mention their names or organization. They act up for the attention, so don't give it to them. Report any abuses direct to Frontier and in time they will hopefully be marginalized into their own instance.
 
Ok, at least with Hutton we had the cojones to fight people in open. Let us know when you have the testicular fortitude to do the same. I mean solo and group operations only? An empty victory against the NPC group of CODE is just that and will mean nothing against the killers that created the new rare commodity "Huttons Tears" in such great supply. If you want to challenge CODE then come at us in the open just as we come at you.
Griefers who were KOS'ing unshielded traders and whose sole moral compass seems to boil down to whether or not something is against the game's rules... whining about someone engaging in asymmetrical warfare against them in a way that is 100% within the game rules.

Comedy gold.
 

Nonya

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Griefers who were KOS'ing unshielded traders and whose sole moral compass seems to boil down to whether or not something is against the game's rules... whining about someone engaging in asymmetrical warfare against them in a way that is 100% within the game rules.

Comedy gold.

Both of which are within the game's "rules". Also, why are people confusing Elite: Dangerous with a role-playing game? it's not. I've never seen it marketed as an "RPG" at all.
Just because some people want to play it that doesn't mean everyone in the game has to play it that way.
I play it my way, you play it your way. Both are valid ways to play the game.
 
Both of which are within the game's "rules". Also, why are people confusing Elite: Dangerous with a role-playing game? it's not. I've never seen it marketed as an "RPG" at all.
Just because some people want to play it that doesn't mean everyone in the game has to play it that way.
I play it my way, you play it your way. Both are valid ways to play the game.
I find this funny. Not sure if it was you per-say but a CMDR with the name Nonya was in Mobius at the Maausk system engaging other CMDR's. Now Mobius is a purely PvE group, so who ever that was not only not following the rules but some may considering it greifing.

Also i love how some say play it how you want to play. For me i'd have to play solo or private since i want to play without some gibbering PvP nut blasting me for no to little reason.
 
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Nonya

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I find this funny. Not sure if it was you per-say but a CMDR with the name Nonya was in Mobius at the Maausk system engaging other CMDR's. Now Mobius is a purely PvE group, so who ever that was not only not following the rules but some may considering it greifing.

Also i love how some say play it how you want to play. For me i'd have to play solo or private since i want to play without some gibbering PvP nut blasting me for no to little reason.

Negative. Everything I did in Mobius followed the Mobius' rules.

Inside Conflict Zones the following rules apply:

  • It is not allowed to attack a neutral player (a player not having chosen a faction)
  • It is not allowed to attack another player while being neutral (not having chosen a faction oneself)
  • It is not allowed to attack another player on the own chosen faction
  • Only if both players have activly chosen opposing factions may they engage in combat
  • It is not allowed to exit and enter a warzone in rapid succession for the sole purpose of targeting other players. Only if the wrong faction was chosen by mistake or by mutual agreement of the present players (For example in order for everybody to join the same faction).
Horrid spelling mistakes on their website aside, I joined the Dawn side - as we also do in Open - and chose the "most dangerous" ship closest to me - a CMDR Tincup who had joined the other side.
Human players are always more dangerous than NPCs and first rule of combat is take out the most dangerous immediate threat first.
 
I find this funny. Not sure if it was you per-say but a CMDR with the name Nonya was in Mobius at the Maausk system engaging other CMDR's. Now Mobius is a purely PvE group, so who ever that was not only not following the rules but some may considering it greifing.

Also i love how some say play it how you want to play. For me i'd have to play solo or private since i want to play without some gibbering PvP nut blasting me for no to little reason.

You may want to reread the Mobius Rules for conflict zones.



  • [*=left]Inside Conflict Zones the following rules apply:
    • It is not allowed to attack a neutral player (a player not having chosen a faction)
    • It is not allowed to attack another player while being neutral (not having chosen a faction oneself)
    • It is not allowed to attack another player on the own chosen faction
    • Only if both players have activly chosen opposing factions may they engage in combat
    • It is not allowed to exit and enter a warzone in rapid succession for the sole purpose of targeting other players. Only if the wrong faction was chosen by mistake or by mutual agreement of the present players (For example in order for everybody to join the same faction)



As long as the player the is choosing opposite side in a conflict zone and did not attack neutrals then he did not break any Mobius rule

 
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I really didn't want to enter this debate again but due to past actions of codes members, they are not welcome in our group, I have no issue removing a code member from our group, I find it odd that while code members are so against our group they insist in playing in it even if they play by the rules they bend them to their own means and that is not what our group is about.

with that the only advice I can offer the rest of the community and their beef with code Is this.
[video=youtube;SlKao_Pox5A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A[/video]
 

Nonya

Banned
I really didn't want to enter this debate again but due to past actions of codes members, they are not welcome in our group, I have no issue removing a code member from our group, I find it odd that while code members are so against our group they insist in playing in it even if they play by the rules they bend them to their own means and that is not what our group is about.

with that the only advice I can offer the rest of the community and their beef with code Is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

I didn't make the rules for your group - you did. Why don't you go back now and retroactively change them to completely eliminate PvP in any form then?

Here, let me refresh your memory...

  • Only if both players have activly chosen opposing factions may they engage in combat

Again, I chose Dawn, he chose Grace. And you know what, it was pretty unfair for me since it was about 10v1. Yet I did not complain to you at the time about that now, did I?
I knew exactly what I was getting into - perhaps you might remind some of your members of the same and point them to your own policy?
Otherwise please refrain from coming in here and accusing me of "bending" your rules. I did no such thing. I abided completely and fully with your policy.
 
Look to history to answer the questions: Does CODE really care.?

Hi Dave,

if history has thought us anything the "CODE" was already in a Faction "Archon" when PP started. When it got to a point where Archon didn't work for the CODE they just moved on.
From what i have seen CODE members are spread across all Factions now. So while it would be a great idea to go after CODES minor faction if it becomes a reality CODE would likely not be too phased about it.

Still fun to give it a go, that's how the games works :)



A few people have said why not fight them in open, that is the whole point of me starting this thread.

They want to fight in open they find it fun, why not make them all stop fighting and start grinding so save their faction.

This will also remove them from fighting people if they are too busy grinding, or they keep fighting and lose the faction.

You don't have to shoot them to beat them.
 
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Nonya

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I keep trying to reply in here explaining exactly what went down and how I followed Mobius' "policy" to the letter however the mods keep refusing to "release" my posts.
 
I keep trying to reply in here explaining exactly what went down and how I followed Mobius' "policy" to the letter however the mods keep refusing to "release" my posts.

Yes, there seems to be a lot of unfair rule bending going on.
Mobius do need to clarify rules related to conflict zones, but at the same time, picking a side so you can combat pilots you know would not be expecting combat (from other players) was an interesting choice.

Interesting times ahead, with player factions, they will all be vulnerable to all modes of play and only one of those modes will they be able to directly oppose. I would try and play as fairly as possible, but if I did start to see underhanded game play, I would resort to using what ever mode I saw fit to give them a dose of their own medicine.

I'm looking forward to seeing how tactics pan out on both sides, because it seems like from this thread, it's the Pirates vs the rest of the galaxy, despite there being many more groups.

Rally your troops, there is a storm coming.

***no condescending text, or Latin was harmed during the writing of this post***
 
I may hate to admit but i have to agree with Gluttony on this one 5 columning is just scummy as all hell, we may all hate the code but i have to admit they do make the game more fun for us pvper's, crushing someones faction because you can doesn't sound right, think about your characters point of view, these guys are a pirate group you screw with them they will find you and kill you literally kill you, you wouldn't reappear back at your last station or they would kill your family... etc etc....

The gameplay mechanics allow it, so it's fair game I'd say.
 
I play in Mobius and even if I saw another CMDR in a CZ on the opposite side, I'd not target them. I'd target the npcs instead. Or I'd comms the CMDR and check if it was ok 1st. Courtesy. However I'd be likely to join the side the cmdr was on and offer or accept a wing invite. Thats the ethos of mobius and it doesnt take anything other than courtesy to fathom it out. So far my experience of mobius group is 100% positive. Its a co-operative group of reasonable people playing a game. Want to find trade routes or cz's or other game scenarios? Ask and someone will help you. Their 1st thought wont be 'how can i destroy them' it will be 'how can i help'.
 
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