Paint, paintjobs, Livery and Decals discussion thread.
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Which has just been announced in the latest newsletter. Helps to be up to date with your info.
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What you actually need to utter a valid "no" is an argument.
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I have suggested this right from day 1. Not as detailed a suggestion as Ketzerfreund's though, but basically Frontier let people who want to design paint jobs use a template they can import into an image editor, the finished design then be submitted to Frontier for approval (so it meets any legal and non-offensive criteria) and Frontier then convert it to work in-game.
The arguments I've seen against are -
"Everyone would have to download it and that would take all the bandwidth" ... this is written in a way to make it look bad. Yes the skin would have to be downloaded once, and we're not talking huge download either, MB's at most.
"It would be a lot of work for Frontier" ... yes there would be work for Frontier to do, but you weigh that against having skins designed by the community and getting the community involved.
"People would just design and upload offensive stuff" ... maybe they would, but if everything had to be approved by Frontier, none of that would end up in-game.
People who are against this idea keep coming up with barriers to it and can't accept there are ways around those barriers.
The arguments I've seen against are -
"Everyone would have to download it and that would take all the bandwidth" ... this is written in a way to make it look bad. Yes the skin would have to be downloaded once, and we're not talking huge download either, MB's at most.
"It would be a lot of work for Frontier" ... yes there would be work for Frontier to do, but you weigh that against having skins designed by the community and getting the community involved.
"People would just design and upload offensive stuff" ... maybe they would, but if everything had to be approved by Frontier, none of that would end up in-game.
People who are against this idea keep coming up with barriers to it and can't accept there are ways around those barriers.
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I can see the problems giving players a full paint job to customize, but a small decal 'family crest' type of thing would be fun. As for paint jobs, i kind of like that the art guys at Frontier are fully in control of those themselves and i would hope they are keeping an eye in for faction/manufacturer themes (although the recent 'fireball' paint job and previous Union jack etc would suggest not always!). But yeah maybe not a full custom paint job for players, but a small decal could be nice and allow it to be added into the game folder somewhere, specify the format required and Kb limit and dimensions etc.
A simple paint shop for creds would be really nice. Imagine choosing you own base color or 2, then add some prefabricated decals, like stripes, lightnings, circles whatever in for instance 4-5 layers. Not so hard to implement I am sure. I would even pay a small amount of real life money one time to have this option in the game.
I wish they'd do every design for every ship. At the moment the only one available for most ships is the pirate skin.
The detail of my pitch seems egregious at first glance, but, you know, I tend to put the "How" right up there with the "If" and "Why".
Such a pitch certainly helps this forum section fulfill its purpose better than the usual grinchy and unreflected "NO!", spouted after reading the very first line of a suggestion, as happens far too often around these parts of the ED forum, in my opinion.
Anyway, as you say, you suggested this early, and I noticed a while ago that you're not the only one, hence me deliberating over the "How" for a couple of days now.
By the way, I don't think it'd be necessary to submit each skin for approval - there is a "report player" function right in the game, and no other potential offense in the game can be processed quicker than an item you can just look at.
In case that there'd be a "first step of implementation" that only allows the user of a custom skin to actually see it, as my deliberately quite basic pitch suggests, the look of a custom skin matters to noone but its user.
But as I stated before, there are several potential ways of making custom skins a universal graphical item, as you suggest, such as allowing players some freedom in the naming of their texture images to make them unique identifiers, so that whoever else has the same files on their harddisks under the same name will see these skins in use. That's the way Rise of Flight does it, which I alluded to in the premise of my pitch by linking to the download lists for community-created plane skins. The upside of the way Rise of Flight manages this is that the use of each community skin is completely optional! This invalidates a lot of potential worries skeptics against this idea might bring up.
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Elite had better start cranking out some paint jobs before everyone is in an anaconda.
just saying.
just saying.
Custom Decals
I appreciate that user-custom skins may be awkward to implement as they'd add significantly to the amount of data for each customised ship in an instance. However, custom decals should be pretty lightweight.
I'd propose that 1 custom decal per ship be allowed - for a real world fee - so that commanders can customise their ship further. It would be moderated to allow certain standards to be maintained before becoming available, with a short period where it may be changed. That would allow players to see their logo on their ship and make sure it works as required.
I think enough players would be interested in this feature to make implementation worthwhile. Thanks for reading anyway, any comments are of interest.
See you in space,
Jim
I appreciate that user-custom skins may be awkward to implement as they'd add significantly to the amount of data for each customised ship in an instance. However, custom decals should be pretty lightweight.
I'd propose that 1 custom decal per ship be allowed - for a real world fee - so that commanders can customise their ship further. It would be moderated to allow certain standards to be maintained before becoming available, with a short period where it may be changed. That would allow players to see their logo on their ship and make sure it works as required.
I think enough players would be interested in this feature to make implementation worthwhile. Thanks for reading anyway, any comments are of interest.
See you in space,
Jim
Request for awesome paint jobs, for ships without them
FD, please at least add the Anaconda; you're turning away income every time a potential customer goes to the store and doesn't find the paint job they wanted.
FD, please at least add the Anaconda; you're turning away income every time a potential customer goes to the store and doesn't find the paint job they wanted.
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I'd have gotten some for the Python but they only had the pirate skin which seemed kind of blah compared to the pirate skins I've seen on NPCs.
Also wouldn't mind Imperial colors and badges for my ships. I'm sure others would like Federal/Alliance colors as well.
Also wouldn't mind Imperial colors and badges for my ships. I'm sure others would like Federal/Alliance colors as well.
Right now the number of skins available for ships is inversely proportional to the amount of time you'll spend flying them.
I'd love to have a paint job for my T9 with something along the lines of a Geisha holding a parasol with cherry blossoms falling. Well, I'd actually just love to *have* a paint job for my T9 :\
Would it really be so hard to open up the creation of paint jobs so that artists outside of FD could create nice things and get a commission on them?
I'd love to have a paint job for my T9 with something along the lines of a Geisha holding a parasol with cherry blossoms falling. Well, I'd actually just love to *have* a paint job for my T9 :\
Would it really be so hard to open up the creation of paint jobs so that artists outside of FD could create nice things and get a commission on them?
Yep, skins for all the T-series, seconded. Loads of people have one, so it's a pretty safe bet.
It seems obvious they focused on paint jobs for ships that most players could get. Meaning the cheaper ones. Though there is none for the Adder and loads for the Hauler which annoys me since the Adder is my cargo ship right now and its a really cheap one. But they must have checked which ships were more popular.
I did buy a eagle paint job as soon as i bought the ship and a Viper one as soon as i got it too. Thankfully my next target ship is the ASP which has paint jobs but beyond that yeah, my options will be limited...
I mean it can't be hard at all to release paint jobs, how long can it possibly take for their artists to make them? That's child's play to them. They should flood the store with them.... Give us at least 6 for every ship.
I did buy a eagle paint job as soon as i bought the ship and a Viper one as soon as i got it too. Thankfully my next target ship is the ASP which has paint jobs but beyond that yeah, my options will be limited...
I mean it can't be hard at all to release paint jobs, how long can it possibly take for their artists to make them? That's child's play to them. They should flood the store with them.... Give us at least 6 for every ship.