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"Scolded by other players"? "Creating friction?" We are pretty much all adults here, and I fail to see why anybody should or would be "scolded" for doing what they want to do with their own money -- more so since it's neither a hack, nor an exploit.
Pay2Win made it to Elite
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You are correct. I assume most of the people spreading their own theories as fact didn't actually bother to read the complete news article.
As per https://www.elitedangerous.com/news/python-mk-ii-updates-gamestore :
"The Python Mk II will also launch with a Pre-built Ship package, allowing you to kickstart your career in the latest ship, including a brand-new paintjob and ship kit."
That's ambiguous, still, depending on whether the "also" refers more to the Python 2 or more to the Pre-Build.
It could mean: you unlock the Python II by buying the package, so for 16500 ARX you get the ship unlocked, plus a pre-built one, plus the paint and ship kit.
Or it could mean: there will be two separate things in the store - an early in-game unlock for 16500 ARX, and a pre-built ship (which probably does also include the general unlock, but doesn't have to) for an as-yet undisclosed price.
I think you're right that the first option is more likely, but I won't be surprised if it turns out to be the other way instead.
Nice. Last one gave me a chuckle.
That's called gameplay. Opening a wallet isn't gameplay.
Either I was robbed by buying a bundle or this can't be right. I'm pretty sure engineers didn't take a full yeah after Horizons first lauched and I had both before that.
You are still wrong. I did preorder Odyssey and didn't get tue CM4. I thought preordering Horizons gave you access to it. Preordering Odyssey definitely didn't, it gave you the Pioneer skin.
Absolutely, if Odyssey had been a financial success we wouldn’t be in this position now, and I certainly don’t want to defend Frontier, I just struggle to find any better solution regarding raising extra income from Elite, where the main assets are still the ships.
I've never doubted that this course of action would benefit Frontier.
I am however, continually astonished that people think what is good for Frontier is automatically good for Elite: Dangerous. The best products are rarely make for good games.
The best case scenario for my Elite: Dangerous experience is not Frontier turning this into a financially successful product, as that product will, rather than being a severely degraded example of the game I originally bought into, one that bears almost no resemblance to it at all. The alternative where they have to shut down the game would likely be better for my continued or renewed enjoyment of Elite: Dangerous, because there is more of a chance at the game seeing either a willful offline/private server release, or, even better, a leak of the server software and development tools, if the game fails as a product. A successful product means less turn over of developers, less opportunity for leaks, and a more vigorous legal defense of a profitable IP.
I do need Frontier's servers for the MMO aspects of the game, which I enjoy (indeed I wouldn't have looked twice at the game if it wasn't an MMO), but Frontier has neglected or actively damaged these mechanisms to the point where I think I could probably have more fun hosting my own server for a few dozen like minded people and gaggle of bots (or the output of some ML software) to turn the BGS gears.
Had I a wallet, opening it to discover what's inside every time I wished for a new ship part would be at least as much fun, and barely less contextual, than this crap was:
And the gameplay to get the materials for those rolls isn't exactly engrossing stuff either. Of course, as I've always said, one bad thing does not justify another.
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It was released and became available with Horizons for those who upgraded, on launch. If you upgraded within the first year you could get it, but if you upgraded to Horizons after that you couldn't.
I'm not sure what you're saying I'm wrong about. I'm not mentioning Odyssey because so far as I know that had nothing to do with the CM4. That came out years after Horizons and would be well after the CM4 cutoff.
If there was ever some mention of the CM4 being available again with Odyssey, I missed that completely, but what I'm referring to is buying a bundle in April 2016 and not having access to the CM4.
The launch of what? The base game, or Horizons? Because I bought the bundle less than a year into Horizons, but not less than a year from the initial game launch.
Really? Does that mean I'm owed a CM4 because I bought the game + Horizons in Nov 2016? I am outraged I have been unwittingly denied access to this turd of a ship that I am entitled to have!
You all love to hate but I certainly would have used it if it showed available for me at that time. Was the perfect for for a small pan hauler upgrade I was looking for. I was under the impression that it was Horizons preorder only and that's why I couldn't access it.
It would be better if they made DLC with landings on planets with an atmosphere and some new microquests with alien ruins or something like that.
I'm not particularly interested in new ships. I have everything, but I spend most of my time on Vulture and Dolphin.
This choice of the easy path to monetization is annoying. Selling pictures and chewed up old content.
I'm not particularly interested in new ships. I have everything, but I spend most of my time on Vulture and Dolphin.
This choice of the easy path to monetization is annoying. Selling pictures and chewed up old content.
Lol, yeah I'm only half joking. I would have loved to use it when I was new too.
I had no idea that I should have been able to access it having bought Horizons in the first year.
I wonder what happened, and if I could actually get them to look at my account and unlock it...
You want a galaxy without privilege for the wealthy, but many people who play this game want realism. Now the galaxy is more realistic. The ultra wealthy get to buy their ships, while the poor people have to spend weeks or minutes slogging their way through the gameplay.