Reminds me of that time I told a girl I'd walk her home safely after drinking 6 Special Brew.
I was wrong.
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Reminds me of that time I told a girl I'd walk her home safely after drinking 6 Special Brew.
I was wrong.
Thread derailed yet?
Did you learn that here too, or are you naturally talented that way?
Well everyone is criticising but im still waiting for anyone to come up with an alternative to help their cash flow
O7
Maybe because of the abysmal release state of the previous DLC...
for which, we, as customers, had nothing to do with...
I wonder if the solution to that is smaller scale expansions. Both of the sold expansions seem to have centered around major augmentations of the scope of the game.Maybe because of the abysmal release state of the previous DLC...
for which, we, as customers, had nothing to do with...
Its all natural baby!
You're not exposing the game to potential customers, you're assisting existing customers. As we're fairly constantly reminded, Frontier is a business.
I have to say that the amount of disagreement about what is actually included in the LEP has rapidly approached the levels of that ensian law case that only ended when the last surviving descendant of the law firms contesting it died.If I understand correctly, what's disappointing is that it appears that FD have just stuck two fingers up at LEP owners, then kicked them in the nuts, for a pre-access ship. Ok, ok, I don't have to buy a ship pre-access, I can wait for release but lifetime should mean lifetime, right? Based on this bovine excrement from FD, no more cash from me. Epic fail.
I agree with those points and even though i went through the pain to unlock them as everybody else did, i would totally be fine with those changes.Aside the Pay2win stuff, which I don't like, my bet for the engineers being more accesible (or my desires rather) are:
- All engineers unlocked by default without needing to unlock them.
- No Colonia exclusive full upgrades (Shield Cell Banks...
- Removal of the reputation system from them.
I can't think of any other improvements to make them more accessible tbh.
I can even look past the prebuild Ships TO SOME DEGREE (When they start selling full G5 Ships imma go nuts).
What i absolutely hate about this is that they lock the new ships behind a early access System. The one thing everybody has been waiting for.
Ah yes that was Jarndyce v Jarndyce in Bleak House - apparently based somewhat on the real-life Jennens v Jennens which lasted from 1798 until 1915 when the legal fees had exhausted the contested estate’s funds. Although the author (whose name the forum swear filter keeps mangling) had of course been long dead by that point and so could not see his ‘prediction’ come to pass.
But we digress.
I've long suspected.... now, if only I could find a picture of a cat to post...
PS ...there is no P2W, as there is no W in ED, nor EDO... and such discussions remind me of the open v solo debates of yore... as DBOBE says, play in your own way.
Here's a cat: meow.
As has been said many times, if you don't think the term P2W is appropriate, use whatever term you like, it still doesn't make it desirable or should be defended, especially when FD have other options they could have followed to better monetize the game that don't even raise the specter of P2W.
Such as? I racked my brains with little to no result, and I didn’t really see any viable suggestions on the forum, although I could certainly have missed some.
Doesn’t mean I like what the’re doing by the way.
I don't see any real harm in what they're doing and remain unconvinced as to how much of a 'real world' impact the average player will experience.
If this can help FDev justifying further expanding/augmenting ED, then that's better than ED waning. Even selling Kumo Burgers and grannies meat pies is (borderline) okay IMHO.
Anyway, I have beetroot to sow, and coffee to drink so....
If it succeeds, then it would certainly indicate it was desirable
If it doesn't, it wasn't...
Yep, the buzz around the January announcement of new ships coming soon would probably have had a different tone if it had continued "for ARX, unless you're happy to wait a few months longer".
Frontier: "okay, what about a 'Python Mk 2' expansion? As it's smaller than Horizons or Odyssey we'll sell it for just £9.50 on release."
More seriously, I think it could work if they can find something suitably compartmentalisable that it's practical for not everyone to have access to it, and sufficiently quick and cheap to develop that, say, 100,000 players buying it at £20 is going to give a quick ROI.
There would be accusations of "pay to win", of course