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[Vingtetun]

@Vingtetun et al: FDev has announced that with tomorrow's release of patch 14 the galaxy will split in two: the live and the legacy galaxy. How will 2HOT2MESSY deal with that? Will it happily accept deliveries from both galaxies?

Having discussed it with Entarius - yes - our intention is that either will count.
We will be switching off "BGS state" detection for Legacy for the Hutton Helper (for monitoring Hutton systems) but the mug deliveries and your personal totals via the HH will still count

 

[Hans Wijn]

Having discussed it with Entarius - yes - our intention is that either will count.

O.K. Thanks for the update.
That does mean that the mugs and gin that I've stashed away on my carrier will double, kind of....

 

[Esteban]

Greetings, CMDRs. I just made a run to Hutton. The Mega-Gin availability is currently 28.

Happy travels!

 

[Ashnak]

Could be a new record (thanks to the Christmas gift appeal?):
Mugs: 102
Gin: 42

 

[Esteban]

Wow, that load of tea I delivered yesterday really benefited things at Hutton. 42!

 

[Esteban]

I wasn't able to find a place to report an issue with the EDMC Plugin, so I'll post here.

I recently noticed that the Hutton Helper EDMC plugin is no longer showing the "shopping list" for missions that require me to get cargoes. I have tried looking over the plugin's settings in EDMC and I have tried both states for the checkboxes apparently associated with this feature.

This isn't a super-critical problem but I have to admit that the utility of having this info displayed has grown on me.

I could try removing the plugin's files and re-installing it. I am using the current version- 3.0.4 and it was working until the galaxies split due to Legacy/Live versions. I am not certain that it stopped working precisely when this change occurred, but I believe that it is close (or coincident).

Spoiler: Settings

 

[Aleks Zuno]

It was two days ago, the eve of the 1045ᵗʰ Empire Day celebration in the Achenar system, that I could not help but wonder whether every conceivable luxury had been supplied. It has become a quaint tradition to check whether the stock of Eden apple cider is adequate, despite there being a lower chance of encountering that deficiency than catching Commander Vulkarius in possession of a cargo rack, but eventually I considered the critical question: What about the Hutton Mugs and Centauri Mega-Gin?

Alas—

A sole settlement stymied your shipments of spirits, I presume without proper permission to engage with the Engineer. This I corrected at once, such that the planetary port heretofore without is now as stocked as any, but what of the mystery entry a little below it?

That it may provide illumination for your accounting, I conducted a visit of Hoffleit Landing personally. It has no docking, no market, and most critically it has no people. I know not whether your progress proportion considers locations such as these, but if it does not, I suggest that a reliable resolution across populated space would revise your sums significantly.

 

[Chix]

Can I make a plea. As with the first hot mess, this is an astonishing opportunity to get a visual on every single station and its location. Can we encourage people to maybe record (screenshot and brief description) any particularly notable ones in some central location? (perhaps this forum thread?) The first hot mess threw up Cortes base, an astounding planetary port perched right on top of a Pomeche like ridge which became something of a mecca for the racing comunity. If there are other amazing locations out there it would be such a shame for them not to be celebrated and catalogued for possible future use.

How about a nice ridge? LHS 350 1 D. 20km from Owen Defence Facility, you can 't miss it.

 

[Esteban]

Greetings, CMDRs. I just made a run to Hutton. The Mega-Gin availability is abysmal at just 5 units!
Mugs are not better at just 11 units.

 

[Esteban]

A report from the LHS 1857 system:
Richards Nutrition Biome has a small landing pad only.
Pesci Horticultural Enterprise has a small landing pad only.
I approached Guin Point. It reports that "docking is offline."

 

[CMDR Vulkarius]

Probably should've thought to use the forum in the first place for this instead of the twitch channel!
Also doing a @Shaye Blackwood ping and hoping it's correct...

I'm interested in working out which systems need deliveries but need Thargoids clearing out first.
INIV is clearing out a lot of systems at the moment, around 30/week with a couple inhabited if they aren't too close to a Maelstrom, so there may be scope for helping HOT MESS.
Is there a way to get a list of systems which still need something delivered?
Most means/formats are good - names only, XML/JSON object, sent via attachment/download/API etc.
We already have a system for watching attackers/targets with their states/distances, so I can select against that.

Alternatively if that filtered list already exists, drop it here and I'll see if we can clear some of it!
It may all be too close for now because it sounds like there was a rush just before the maelstroms expanded, shouldn't hurt to check though.

 

[CMDR Vulkarius]

Merging the ones at >20 LY from the chat channel:
HIP 110626 - Raijin 25.316840 LY
HIP 9764 - Leigong 24.374880 LY
HIP 21946 - Indra 24.110707 LY
HIP 22566 - Indra 24.385695 LY
Vocovii - Cocijo 23.671457 LY
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-21 - Cocijo 24.467952 LY
HIP 37844 - Cocijo 28.465217 LY

All of those Cocijo systems are on the defence list and we're literally next to a couple of them at the moment!

 

[Shaye Blackwood]

Complete (I think) list of all current thargoid controlled systems that used to have a population, I've not checked against the 2Hot2Messy database to see which have been mugged.

Thargoid controlled inhabited systems (20/7/2023)

Sheet1 x,-97.81250,157.28125,125.50000,-2.81250,178.78125,-66.43750,88.43750,-147.56250 y,44.31250,14.96875,-169.75000,-63.81250,-81.71875,-144.40625,-74.90625,-61.78125 z,-83.84375,-103.87500,-97.12500,-162.43750,-47.93750,-106.28125,-122.00000,-27.50000 x,y,z,Cephei Sector BV-Y b4,Col 285 Sect...

docs.google.com

 

[CMDR Vulkarius]

Complete (I think) list of all current thargoid controlled systems that used to have a population, I've not checked against the 2Hot2Messy database to see which have been mugged.

Thargoid controlled inhabited systems (20/7/2023)

Sheet1 x,-97.81250,157.28125,125.50000,-2.81250,178.78125,-66.43750,88.43750,-147.56250 y,44.31250,14.96875,-169.75000,-63.81250,-81.71875,-144.40625,-74.90625,-61.78125 z,-83.84375,-103.87500,-97.12500,-162.43750,-47.93750,-106.28125,-122.00000,-27.50000 x,y,z,Cephei Sector BV-Y b4,Col 285 Sect...

docs.google.com

Nice list - although if that's without mug info, definitely not complete!
You have 87 rows there, where a query of the INTRA database gives 136.

I'll drop the list here for comparison and ultimately checking against MESS data (somehow).
For an idea of how feasible it is to clear them, the full wing can do 25+ LY within a couple of hours, 20 LY needs a dedicated 6-ish hours, 15 LY means we'd be doing only that system all week.
Feasible or not though, I'm thinking to start with working out which ones need port access for MESS eventually (assuming all have odyssey bases).

5 Mu Leporis​	Taranis​	19.14​
51 Tauri​	Indra​	14.54​
63 Tauri​	Indra​	11.83​
64 Tauri​	Indra​	13.19​
70 Tauri​	Indra​	20.96​
97 i Tauri​	Indra​	21.14​
Akbakara​	Oya​	18.17​
Alads​	Raijin​	14.25​
Ardhri​	Oya​	13.65​
Arietis Sector AQ-P b5-0​	Leigong​	16.17​
Arietis Sector KM-W d1-94​	Leigong​	17.45​
Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18​	Leigong​	23.5​
Baiabozo​	Oya​	8.23​
Brigua​	Raijin​	16.14​
Camenisar​	Raijin​	17.14​
Chakma​	Raijin​	21.58​
Chanyaya​	Thor​	16.11​
Chinas​	Raijin​	17.46​
Chnemine​	Raijin​	17.66​
Col 285 Sector BA-P c6-19​	Cocijo​	5.19​
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-69​	Cocijo​	23.67​
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-117​	Cocijo​	11.91​
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-96​	Cocijo​	9.87​
Col 285 Sector WY-F b12-1​	Cocijo​	20.85​
Col 285 Sector WY-F b12-3​	Cocijo​	17.69​
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-21​	Cocijo​	24.47​
Daruwach​	Oya​	15.71​
Dhang Tzela​	Thor​	18.9​
Eoto​	Oya​	4.09​
Gaezatorix​	Indra​	17.09​
Gluschen​	Thor​	8.14​
HIP 110626​	Raijin​	25.32​
HIP 112823​	Raijin​	15.43​
HIP 113076​	Raijin​	24.38​
HIP 113535​	Raijin​	20.43​
HIP 116351​	Raijin​	17.66​
HIP 13179​	Oya​	15.21​
HIP 15415​	Oya​	9.1​
HIP 18075​	Thor​	21.4​
HIP 18857​	Thor​	24.62​
HIP 19091​	Thor​	9.87​
HIP 19198​	Thor​	17.09​
HIP 19781​	Indra​	25.57​
HIP 19894​	Thor​	16.21​
HIP 19934​	Indra​	15.97​
HIP 20024​	Thor​	19.46​
HIP 20350​	Indra​	12.72​
HIP 20419​	Indra​	17.96​
HIP 20480​	Indra​	16.45​
HIP 20577​	Indra​	17.81​
HIP 20616​	Indra​	22.17​
HIP 20679​	Indra​	17.87​
HIP 20741​	Indra​	24.48​
HIP 20827​	Indra​	8.89​
HIP 20916​	Indra​	17.09​
HIP 21112​	Indra​	11.5​
HIP 21138​	Indra​	8.21​
HIP 21165​	Oya​	8.34​
HIP 21179​	Indra​	16.6​
HIP 21261​	Indra​	20.24​
HIP 21912​	Indra​	13.57​
HIP 21918​	Indra​	22.27​
HIP 21946​	Indra​	24.11​
HIP 22496​	Indra​	21.78​
HIP 22524​	Indra​	20.09​
HIP 22566​	Indra​	24.39​
HIP 23816​	Taranis​	12.26​
HIP 30502​	Hadad​	14.35​
HIP 37520​	Cocijo​	29.5​
HIP 37844​	Cocijo​	28.47​
HIP 38235​	Cocijo​	20.75​
HIP 6442​	Leigong​	27.58​
HIP 7277​	Leigong​	17.33​
HIP 7338​	Oya​	18.85​
HIP 7819​	Leigong​	17.61​
HIP 8525​	Oya​	17.92​
HIP 9607​	Leigong​	32.02​
HIP 9764​	Leigong​	24.37​
HR 1354​	Indra​	17.82​
HR 1385​	Indra​	11.33​
HR 1737​	Taranis​	8.63​
HR 2204​	Hadad​	15.46​
Haitchane​	Leigong​	29.58​
Hosan​	Raijin​	27.88​
Humarala​	Raijin​	17.83​
Hupang​	Taranis​	9.17​
Hyades Sector HW-W d1-52​	Taranis​	15.28​
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-4​	Indra​	25.8​
Iceniguari​	Raijin​	23.13​
Iduni​	Raijin​	22.04​
Inara​	Oya​	6.52​
Ixbaksha​	Raijin​	23.25​
Ixbalan​	Taranis​	15.65​
Kamato​	Raijin​	26.99​
Kanus​	Oya​	12.49​
Kaurukat​	Raijin​	16.58​
Kurumanit​	Cocijo​	20.24​
Lei Hsini​	Indra​	21.11​
Leunii​	Thor​	6.1​
Lhou Mans​	Oya​	9.48​
Liu Huang​	Oya​	17.76​
Mahlina​	Cocijo​	21.15​
Mapon​	Cocijo​	17.82​
Marindhs​	Raijin​	15.82​
Modigi​	Taranis​	17.99​
Montioch​	Hadad​	13.34​
Mora​	Raijin​	11.55​
Nibelaako​	Raijin​	22.26​
Niu Yun​	Oya​	12.69​
Njorog​	Taranis​	14.7​
Nyani​	Cocijo​	7.06​
Obamumbo​	Indra​	18.65​
Obassi Osaw​	Leigong​	15.58​
Omumba​	Hadad​	13.6​
Ongkarango​	Raijin​	10.41​
Patollu​	Leigong​	21.62​
Pegasi Sector BQ-Y d71​	Raijin​	25.66​
Pegasi Sector FW-W d1-111​	Raijin​	14.21​
Pegasi Sector GW-W d1-115​	Raijin​	22.72​
Pegasi Sector MN-S b4-5​	Raijin​	21.2​
Qinganu​	Cocijo​	9.11​
Raidal​	Indra​	16.43​
Rajuarpai​	Thor​	11.47​
Sambaho​	Oya​	14.71​
Scythia​	Indra​	20.23​
Sholintet​	Raijin​	16.08​
Snoqui​	Raijin​	11.76​
Sugalis​	Raijin​	23.49​
Swahku​	Taranis​	5.36​
Tougeir​	Oya​	16.22​
Tsao Chun​	Raijin​	11.33​
Ulche​	Cocijo​	16.62​
Vaipacnali​	Thor​	18.64​
Vasupari​	Hadad​	18.04​
Vocovii​	Cocijo​	23.67​
Warnones​	Oya​	13.59​