I believe one of the Warhammer games did this too, it's quite a novel concept and I wish more game developers did this. But I guess having players buy the same thing over and over again just works better as a business model...
Planet Zoo 2 Speculation and ideas
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Oh ho ho, I won't be buying them again myself. No no
Glad to see my #1 concern was being discussed recently. Not throwing out this genuinely impressive animal roster is the most important thing going into PZ2.
Yep, that is also my issue with the potentional roster. That not all animals will be present. But not only that, looking at the PC2 - not all buiilding pieces/foalige will be present. Which is really a shame. Imagine getting the sequel but it will not have the fantastic Aquatic faux rocks, that right there is a nightmare scenario.
I'll actually amend my desire for all animals to return by saying that there are a few base game animals that should be updated slightly. The lion and Asiatic black bear should both be brought to the more generic species level (I want to say maybe there was another instance of the base game being arbitrarily specific in a weird way like this but I can't place it off hand). The tigers should be converted into a cold climate mainland tiger and the tropical Sumatran tiger. Europe probably ought to get its own version of the brown bear and gray wolf, and this is the best opportunity to patch that up (I'd slightly prefer just swapping the HBB for the EBB, but I'm not going to complain if we do wind up with a third brown bear as long as it isn't DLC). I guess in the case of the wolf I'd be fine with it either going full generic ("gray wolf" and that's that) or splitting into two separate Eurasian and American subspecies. I think that's about it in terms of taxonomic changes to the PZ1 base game that I'd push for.
And while we're on the subject, let's swap the barnyard pack out for the kunekune and Nigerian dwarf goat
I agree, except I think choosing the Siberian population (hopefully they use the name Amur) is better than just the mainland tiger. Zoos still operate, and will probably continue to operate with the old subspecies system. I don't think we'll ever see zoos muddle the captive bloodlines by mixing Malayan tigers with Amurs and so on. Also, Amur tigers are noticeably fluffer, a tad larger, and paler in color than the other mainland populations.
To be honest I'd rather we do away with subspecies entirely, or have them as a sort of "drop down" menu... I'd be much happier with just one lion, tiger, leopard, brown bear, grey wolf etc...
I think for the most part the only differences are in the fur, if we can get some kind of variation with that then it would be ok.
I think for the most part the only differences are in the fur, if we can get some kind of variation with that then it would be ok.
My hopes for Planet Zoo 2
The following animals are removed:
African Leopard
Arctic Wolf
Bengal Tiger
Dingo
Himalayan Brown Bear
Alpaca
Bactrian Camel
Dromedary Camel
Llama
Alpine Goat
American Standard Donkey
Highland Cattle
Hill Radnor Sheep
Sussex Chicken
Tamworth Pig
The following animals are renamed:
Aldabra Giant Tortoise->Aldabra Tortoise
Amur Leopard->Leopard
Formosan Black Bear->Asian Black Bear
Galapagos Giant Tortoise->Galapagos Tortoise
Grizzly Bear->Brown Bear
Indian Elephant->Asian Elephant
Pzerwalski’s Horse->Wild Horse
Pygmy Hippo->Pygmy Hippopotamus
Reticulated Giraffe->Giraffe
Siberian Tiger->Tiger
Southern White Rhinoceros->White Rhinoceros
Timber Wolf->Gray Wolf
West African Lion-> Lion
Western Chimpanzee->Chimpanzee
Western Lowland Gorilla->Western Gorilla
No domestics or extra subspecies
We get aviaries, aquariums, and other highly requested animals that didn’t make it into Planet Zoo
They add some extinct animals (Ice Age and recently extinct only)
The following animals are removed:
African Leopard
Arctic Wolf
Bengal Tiger
Dingo
Himalayan Brown Bear
Alpaca
Bactrian Camel
Dromedary Camel
Llama
Alpine Goat
American Standard Donkey
Highland Cattle
Hill Radnor Sheep
Sussex Chicken
Tamworth Pig
The following animals are renamed:
Aldabra Giant Tortoise->Aldabra Tortoise
Amur Leopard->Leopard
Formosan Black Bear->Asian Black Bear
Galapagos Giant Tortoise->Galapagos Tortoise
Grizzly Bear->Brown Bear
Indian Elephant->Asian Elephant
Pzerwalski’s Horse->Wild Horse
Pygmy Hippo->Pygmy Hippopotamus
Reticulated Giraffe->Giraffe
Siberian Tiger->Tiger
Southern White Rhinoceros->White Rhinoceros
Timber Wolf->Gray Wolf
West African Lion-> Lion
Western Chimpanzee->Chimpanzee
Western Lowland Gorilla->Western Gorilla
No domestics or extra subspecies
We get aviaries, aquariums, and other highly requested animals that didn’t make it into Planet Zoo
They add some extinct animals (Ice Age and recently extinct only)
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Question to all. Say you design the base game roster of PZ2 with a 100 habitat animals, you can only add up to 10 new habitat species, and port the rest habitat animals from PZ to PZ2 basegame. Which 100 animals do you pick for the PZ2 base game?
Assume if it's an older model from PZ it gets updated to the current model standard.
Assume if it's an older model from PZ it gets updated to the current model standard.
I have so many questions. One of them why would you rename Przewalski Horse? It's the correct name for this species.
Also why no domestic animals in a zoo game? No llamas, alpacas, camels
So 90 old and 10 new?
I think this would probably be fine in most cases? I’d like for the dingo to remain its own thing, at least, but I’m willing to let that be an exception and I realize it’s a bit arbitrary. But at the same time, I’m also not exactly dying for any new subspecies that I didn’t already outline, so I’m also fine with them not introducing a new subspecies functionality for what I’m hoping would get used a half dozen times or so.
On a similar note, I REALLY hope we do get all of those most popular “clone” animals in the PZ2 base game. Masai giraffe, Grevy's zebra, that sort of thing. These are generally distinct species despite their similarity, so I think this is the time for them.
You can also do a 100 old ones, but the point is you can't do more than 10 new ones. The rest of the animals may or may not come in DLCs later.
On the brighter side (or what little of one there is) of the current game's lack of South American species, I can't help but think about how hard a South American pack (or packs) would go for a sequel when introducing flying and fully aquatic species.
The Amazon alone could probably have two-three packs without running out of popular animals, it's loaded with terrestrial, aquatic, and flying species that are common in zoos, from the canopy to the river, combining all three types of animals in one ecosystem so easily. I'm especially thinking about those Amazonian tanks that are so common in zoos and as a prime freshwater exhibit in aquariums—Arapaima, redtail catfish, piranhas, manatees, etc. All of that in combo with macaws, harpy eagles, conures, and all of the more land-based species that could've made it to the first game - ibises, spoonbills, agouti, tinamou, ocelots, and of course all of the monkey species we should've had. I dunno, maybe I just really want an Amazon river pack.
A bit rambly, but my point is, a lot of Amazon exhibits I see tend to combine aviaries, aquariums, and standard habitats in one complex, so I'd be thrilled to see a sequel venture into that territory if covering the region. : p
The Amazon alone could probably have two-three packs without running out of popular animals, it's loaded with terrestrial, aquatic, and flying species that are common in zoos, from the canopy to the river, combining all three types of animals in one ecosystem so easily. I'm especially thinking about those Amazonian tanks that are so common in zoos and as a prime freshwater exhibit in aquariums—Arapaima, redtail catfish, piranhas, manatees, etc. All of that in combo with macaws, harpy eagles, conures, and all of the more land-based species that could've made it to the first game - ibises, spoonbills, agouti, tinamou, ocelots, and of course all of the monkey species we should've had. I dunno, maybe I just really want an Amazon river pack.
A bit rambly, but my point is, a lot of Amazon exhibits I see tend to combine aviaries, aquariums, and standard habitats in one complex, so I'd be thrilled to see a sequel venture into that territory if covering the region. : p
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The Przewalski’s Horse is technically a subspecies of the wild horse (the species that also includes the domestic horse and extinct tarpan) and I’m personally not interested in domestic animals and neither is the majority of the community.I have so many questions. One of them why would you rename Przewalski Horse? It's the correct name for this species.
Also why no domestic animals in a zoo game? No llamas, alpacas, camels
I think you’re projecting a bit here.
I’m basing this off of the reactions I saw when barnyard was announced. Some people were happy about it, but a lot of the comments I saw were negative.
please let a little joy in your life and go pet an alpaca
Would be cool if the animal selection had like “zebra” and then you select which zebra you want. Or “lemur” and then you choose which lemur you want.