Not all.mods are better than official animals. No offense to who ever made them but i was in desperate need for official rhea and mara because the mods just... are not good enough for me. So i'm glad they gave us an official rhea.See? I wish they stopped already after Eurasia
But I understand that not everyone uses mods ofc.
It's just sad that back in the day Frontier animals were usually better than mods. But as of today that's arguably hardly ever the case. And with people like Ayano pulling off flying animations or Gabboi, monsoon and the like being fur masters and then you see that fur on the coyote and the animal selection that clearly screams: "we'll do what we can with barely any resources but still sell it at usual price to this crazy (and loyal) animal nerd community, they will buy anything we throw at them anyway".
I mean they don't even care to write the OP title properly. C'mon
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What's wrong with the coyote?See? I wish they stopped already after Eurasia
But I understand that not everyone uses mods ofc.
It's just sad that back in the day Frontier animals were usually better than mods. But as of today that's arguably hardly ever the case. And with people like Ayano pulling off flying animations or Gabboi, monsoon and the like being fur masters and then you see that fur on the coyote and the animal selection that clearly screams: "we'll do what we can with barely any resources but still sell it at usual price to this crazy (and loyal) animal nerd community, they will buy anything we throw at them anyway".
I mean they don't even care to write the OP title properly. C'mon
To me it just looks a little blurry, but I want to know what exactly is wrong
I love what modders are able to do, they are amazing, and I am grateful for their amazing work but like..I am looking at the coyote and I really do not see anything that offending...maybe I am wrong but it is miles better than the base game Timber wolf. Sure it is a very different style to what modders have, but I do not think it is bad.See? I wish they stopped already after Eurasia
But I understand that not everyone uses mods ofc.
It's just sad that back in the day Frontier animals were usually better than mods. But as of today that's arguably hardly ever the case. And with people like Ayano pulling off flying animations or Gabboi, monsoon and the like being fur masters and then you see that fur on the coyote and the animal selection that clearly screams: "we'll do what we can with barely any resources but still sell it at usual price to this crazy (and loyal) animal nerd community, they will buy anything we throw at them anyway".
I mean they don't even care to write the OP title properly. C'mon
I am such a big fan @TheDuckKnight
thank you for levelling with us! Don't let anybody harsh your vibe 
I have to confess some initial disappointment because the build-up was long, it was intense and it was coati-fixated. But actually the bush dog is an incredible surprise, I never thought we'd get them. Seeing that in the line up gave me a feeling that I haven't had since the Red River Hog of actually gasping out loud because I am so surprised to be getting such a cool, under-requested and interesting animal. They are coveted as * and are going in ALL my zoos!
I also really love the coyote. Haters gonna hate but I think it's very different from our other canines, iconic of North America, a good girl and a very clever puppy. Love them. I hope they make cool sounds.
I am meh about the sheep but also not mad to have a hot climate one, that's pretty dope. I just wish it would have kicked the dall sheep off it's rock in the early game.
Hopefully the coati is in another pack...and that day we will all sing the coati song in unison. I hope everyone is practicing
The range in quality is indeed huge. Especially when it comes to fur work. Which is the reason why most of the time "there is a mod for this" did not work for me. And still doesn't. Some mods will eventually make it into my game (especially remasters), but I do think we are still dependend on Frontier, which makes the drop in quality even more frustrating.
Because as @random goat said, we are a loyal customer base and truth be told, most of us buy anything anyway and I hate that Frontier gets away with their lack of quality and extra work currently.
And @FoxyDee oh yeah that is what I meant indeed. I think "a little blurry" is being incredibly generous here, specially when we've had tons of animals whose fur was not like that already. It's not so much that it is bad in itself, it is the fact that the fur work had been better for a while now (until Eurasia), they fired tons of artists and hired new ones (probably a lot less) with far less expertise, but still selling their product at the same price. So yeah it's not only the fur itself being worse than before, it is the fact they're laughing at us pretty much. And I'm talking about the people really up high in frontier, none of the artist teams. My point is much deeper than just the fur itself.
Here is mine
White-Faced Saki: while I would've prefered a Howler or spider monkey this is incredibly good, a NW Monkey is very useful, and this one looks fantastic: 11/10, one of my favorite animals in the game
Bush Dog: as unnecessary as 2 dogs are that is certainly not this little guys fault, I mean how can you hate this goober: 9/10, reminds me of a little smokie in Dog form
Ocelot: glad to finally get one, look they referenced minecraft
, joking aside they look nice: 8/10, pretty goodGreater Rhea: not my favorite bird but there fun enough, glad we finally got a bird for South America, besides the king penguin: 7/10, a cool birb
American Flamingo: in a similar boat to Rhea, nice to have variety for South America, hope we get more SA birds and primates: 7/10, a cool bird, THE SEQUEL
Bighorn Sheep: it's neat, even though I will never use it, it is pretty cool addition: 6/10, nice overall
Coyote: not bad, but not good, wish it was a Squirrel Monkey: 5/10, kinda wanted it, but only kinda
So that's my ranking, hope y'all enjoyed.
That's a bit...much.
It sounds like something a crazy conspiracy theorist would say, "they are all laughing at us...really high up...it goes much deeper...". Okay drama
I assume you haven't read the news about Frontier from literally 2 years ago?
I've been following it closely, and read the financial reports. You don't think you sounded a little ott there?
I see what you mean now.
Animals with longer/fluffier fur were never Frontier's forte... And now I'm questioning why they made the coyote fur look like this instead of giving us a sort of "summer coat" as they did with, say, the red fox.
Still. 3/4 look really good with some incredible textures, so it's not a huge deal for me.
Most of the animals in Barnyard and Zookeeper also looked pretty good to me (with maybe the exception of the highland cattle and the baboon), but I see your point about the overall quality going down.
Still, I don't think a single animal with mediocre quality justifies lowering the pack's price.
elaborating on this, nothing in this pack is really exciting or unique and several options seens to be random: why the absence of the mara and coati? why out of all the NW monkeys the saki was the choosen? why one of the birds is a recolor while the other is a resize with some twerking?
Those questions might be related to the fact that the zookeeper pack felt like an last pack: a bunch of popular animals that lack something in common, coming on the game fifth anniversary, with the campaing map felling like a game celebration (i played it recently, and after realising this is the only career map that have all the animals, even from other dlcs available to the beggining, i noticed something was going on here). The reason for that is because zookeeper was indeed, planned to be the last, but thanks to PC2 bombing, they decided to keep milking us, however at the same time Frontier already planed that some of the most requested animals should be saved to help selling an sequel and it dlcs, so they coudn't put they on PZ 1, while they team is also on the low end, considering this team shoudn't still be around.
And it's with this in mind that this pack starts to make sense.
Why the coati isn't here? Cuz Frontier want it on the sequel, not here.
Why out of all the NW monkeys the saki was the one? Because the others were demed to popular to be here.
why the rhea and flamingo are the choosen ones? because they didn't have resourses to make other birds, and most of them were demed popular enough for the sequel.
I know this sounds crazy, but honestly? i can't find another reason to explain why frontier make this pack this way.
So you know they have fired tons of employees who have only been partially replaced. And it's only normal and fair to assume that people who are newly hired won't be as experienced as those who had been working in a game for years. Consider again not only that but also that given the financial situation, where there were 10, now there might be 5. A clear consequence of that is a massive drop in community engagement, but in this very topic, the fur quality, the coyote is a clear example.
People at Frontier who make decisions obviously know about all this and still charge the same for lower quality and/or less time/effort/money being invested in a single DLC. Is that a conspiracy? "Laughing at us" is just an expression, obviously not literal, if that was the issue. But of course they are doing this with complete consciousness that they are offering worse for the same value (to keep the company afloat).
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When will we see your bush dog - red river hog - Somali wild ass - zoo/area?
Yep. As I said. Hidden price rate. And I hate those. They are disrespecting the customer. Give me the high quality we used to have and charge more and I would pay and not complain. Because a price raise in itself is very understandable in the current economics.
Another way to look at it is that they had a run of really bad luck and had to make some agonising financial decisions to let people go. That is quite typical of the video game industry unfortunately. My brother and a couple of friends work in the industry, staff turnover is pretty high, especially for community managers.
They have kept the cost of DLC the same and incredibly low, in spite of massive cost hikes in the UK. I don't know the figures, but they will be making significantly less profit from each DLC now than they did at release. Staff are also more expensive now due to an increase in the cost of national insurance for UK companies that came in in the last 8 months or so. For every £1 they made in 2019 they might be getting <40p now, things are pretty tough.
I doubt that anyone there is laughing at their player base, I expect they are incredibly grateful for our support and anxious to please. Yes, resources are lower and we can feel that, but it's fair enough, its Y6 and they are working on other projects which, as a business, is the right and only possible move.
Anyway the coyote fur looks good to me, great colouration.
Oh nice! Okay I'll try to get something made when I have time next weekWhen will we see your bush dog - red river hog - Somali wild ass - zoo/area?