Planet Zoo: Eurasia Animal Pack arriving 13 Dec ❄️

Do you mean will the update be small because the gift shop feature is complex? If so, then probably yes, I doubt we'll see much more aside from that and the unnecessary tiger variants.
I mean free update items seems lesser than previous dlcs
See my edit above.

Free updates have been getting gradually smaller. This one seems more significant than previous ones, but it is likely to be just the gift shop as a main feature (and the pointless tiger variants).
 
See my edit above.

Free updates have been getting gradually smaller. This one seems more significant than previous ones, but it is likely to be just the gift shop as a main feature (and the pointless tiger variants).
Im not know as a connoisseur of color morph either, but whats wrong with the tiger ones?
 
Im not know as a connoisseur of color morph either, but whats wrong with the tiger ones?
The most useful colour morphs, in my opinion, are the ones that add variety to normal animals. These flamboyant mutations have literally no value to zoos; just the opposite, half the time. They are deliberately avoided because they most often come about as a result of inbreeding, which is the very antithesis of conservation (which relies upon as varied a gene pool as possible for any given species). I'd like tiger variants - in slightly different shades of orange or stripe patterns.

If mutations are showing up in a captive population then it's because the zoo isn't managing its breeding at all. In other words, an abundance of mutants reveals a poorly-managed zoo. Exceptions exist, of course, such as Singapore Zoo's white tigers, but they don't breed them in-house; they get them from a dubious breeder in Indonesia which has its own ethical baggage. Inbred genes don't just give shiny pokemon, they also tend to come with genetic diseases, quite often respiratory and joint diseases (which you often see in domestic dogs, because most breeds of domestic dog have been inbred to hell and back, too).
 
Looking at all continents, this is what I feel is essential to add to the game for the future (imo):
Europe
  • Nothing. I think we have a really good roster of European animals that can definitely allow a player to make a diverse European/Eurasia section.
Asia
  • Goat. Preferably Markhor but something like the Tahr could also be really cool.
  • Pallas Cat. I dont know if this is per say essential, but it would be an extremely good addition and would provide our first small feline for cold regions.
  • A more common antelope. Whether its Blackbuck or Nilgai, while I love the Saiga I think we should have a more realistic antelope to represent Asia.
  • Also unsure if this I consider essential, but a Small Deer like a muntjac, this can also be covered by the pudu in SA.
Africa
  • Birds. Birds. Birds. Secretary Bird, Hornbill and Grey Crowned Crane I would tally for essential.
  • Barbary Sheep; Would provide a lot to goats / mountain animals as we don't have an African goat yet.
  • Baboon. If we dont get a baboon by the end of support I will cry. And I don't cry about a lot of things lol.
South America
  • Where to begin, Spectacled Bear, Rhea, Mara, Ocelot, at least one monkey preferably on the larger side (I would pay double for a pack that has the spider monkey) adn there are so many more.
North America
  • Rocky Mountain Elk; Maybe not essential, but it would add a lot to the North American roster in game.
  • American Black Bear; Not essential imo, but an icon no doubt. Out of all very well known species of the world, it doesn't make sense to not include this one.
  • Arctic Hare; Could also be a European Hare, I really just need a bunny, would really go a long way to add to the roster.
  • Walrus & Musk Ox. While I would strongly dislike their additions, they are icons like the ABB, and as much as I dont care for them they would add as iconic animals to the games roster.
Australia
  • None, I really want Tree Kangaroo and Echidna (and even Rock Wallaby and Pig nosed turtle) but I dont think these are essential.
 
Im not know as a connoisseur of color morph either, but whats wrong with the tiger ones?
The most useful colour morphs, in my opinion, are the ones that add variety to normal animals. These flamboyant mutations have literally no value to zoos; just the opposite, half the time. They are deliberately avoided because they most often come about as a result of inbreeding, which is the very antithesis of conservation (which relies upon as varied a gene pool as possible for any given species). I'd like tiger variants - in slightly different shades of orange or stripe patterns.

If mutations are showing up in a captive population then it's because the zoo isn't managing its breeding at all. In other words, an abundance of mutants reveals a poorly-managed zoo. Exceptions exist, of course, such as Singapore Zoo's white tigers, but they don't breed them in-house; they get them from a dubious breeder in Indonesia which has its own ethical baggage. Inbred genes don't just give shiny pokemon, they also tend to come with genetic diseases, quite often respiratory and joint diseases (which you often see in domestic dogs, because most breeds of domestic dog have been inbred to hell and back, too).
I agree, while cool looking, the new morphs aren't really going in the direction I thought they were heading in. I thought they would add variants to animals that have lots of variety more commonly, like the przewalskis horse.
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The most useful colour morphs, in my opinion, are the ones that add variety to normal animals. These flamboyant mutations have literally no value to zoos; just the opposite, half the time. They are deliberately avoided because they most often come about as a result of inbreeding, which is the very antithesis of conservation (which relies upon as varied a gene pool as possible for any given species). I'd like tiger variants - in slightly different shades of orange or stripe patterns.

If mutations are showing up in a captive population then it's because the zoo isn't managing its breeding at all. In other words, an abundance of mutants reveals a poorly-managed zoo. Exceptions exist, of course, such as Singapore Zoo's white tigers, but they don't breed them in-house; they get them from a dubious breeder in Indonesia which has its own ethical baggage. Inbred genes don't just give shiny pokemon, they also tend to come with genetic diseases, quite often respiratory and joint diseases (which you often see in domestic dogs, because most breeds of domestic dog have been inbred to hell and back, too).
Yeah pretty much why im not really a fan of them either
 
Honestly speaking, but what would you say is needed for Asia to feel complete, or at least satisfactory?

I provide 25 kinds of animals to choose from (PS: It is 25 kinds to choose from, not all 25 kinds. Of course, if they all appear...it will be an extremely gorgeous dream):
1. Asian golden cat (a medium-sized cat that is widely distributed. They can be found in China, Nepal, India and throughout Southeast Asia. It has the richest coat color among wild cats)
2. Père David's Deer (an exciting conservation story, no less legendary than Przewalski's horses, European bison, California condors, etc., the best embodiment of the conservation responsibilities of modern zoos)
3. Raccoon Dog (ancient canine, they can also be seen in highly urbanized areas)
4. Markhor (Needless to say, it has excellent representation and is a national treasure of Pakistan. A very popular animal)
5. Himalayan tahr (another very distinctive goat, the male’s gorgeous neck hair is very special)
6. Golden Pheasant (one of the most well-known Asian birds, one of the most popular birds in the forum, and a representative of Asia’s temperate forests)
7. Tufted deer (one of the representatives of temperate forests in Asia and a neighbor of the giant panda. It is also raised in European and American zoos and can be mixed with red pandas and golden pheasants)
8. Reeve’s Muntjac (one of the representatives of Asia’s temperate forests, can be mixed with a variety of ungulates. It can also be mixed with red pandas)
9. Himalayan Monal (one of the most gorgeous birds, the national bird of Nepal, the representative bird of the Himalayas)
10. Blackbuck (no need to say more)
11. Golden snub-nosed monkey (China’s iconic animal)
12. François’s Langur (the most famous langur, also found in zoos in European and American countries, not uncommon)
13. Sambar (the most representative deer in subtropical and tropical Asia, extremely widely distributed)
14. Gaur (the most majestic cow, a popular species, a representative of South Asia)
15. Pallas's Cat (a representative of the cold regions of Asia, a very distinctive small cat)
16. kiang (Since we have a horse and a donkey in Africa, why not Asia?)
17. Wild Yak (together with Gaur will complete the Asian cattle puzzle)
18. White-lipped Deer (the last piece of the Himalayan puzzle, a deer that only lives in high altitude areas, very special)
19. Mandarin Duck (Needless to say, one of the most popular “ducks”)
20. Crested Ibis (a legendary bird, one of the most exciting conservation stories, just a hair away from extinction. From only 12 left in the world to a great conservation story with a population of over 10,000)
21. Yellow-throated marten (one of the most popular mustelids, needless to say)
22.Chinese Alligator (one of the most distinctive reptiles, it can hibernate and dig caves several meters deep)
23. Visayan spotted deer (one of the national treasures of the Philippines, one of the representatives of tropical Asia, and one of the animals that has been protected in recent years)
24. Nilgai (representative ungulate of South Asia)
25. Gray Langur (the most common langur, needless to say)
 
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I provide 25 kinds of animals to choose from (PS: It is 25 kinds to choose from, not all 25 kinds. Of course, if they all appear...it will be an extremely gorgeous dream):
1. Asian golden cat (a medium-sized cat that is widely distributed. They can be found in China, Nepal, India and throughout Southeast Asia. It has the richest coat color among wild cats)
2. Père David's Deer (an exciting conservation story, no less legendary than Przewalski's horses, European bison, California condors, etc., the best embodiment of the conservation responsibilities of modern zoos)
3. Raccoon Dog (ancient canine, they can also be seen in highly urbanized areas)
4. Markhor (Needless to say, it has excellent representation and is a national treasure of Pakistan. A very popular animal)
5. Himalayan tahr (another very distinctive goat, the male’s gorgeous neck hair is very special)
6. Golden Pheasant (one of the most well-known Asian birds, one of the most popular birds in the forum, and a representative of Asia’s temperate forests)
7. Tufted deer (one of the representatives of temperate forests in Asia and a neighbor of the giant panda. It is also raised in European and American zoos and can be mixed with red pandas and golden pheasants)
8. Reeve’s Muntjac (one of the representatives of Asia’s temperate forests, can be mixed with a variety of ungulates. It can also be mixed with red pandas)
9. Himalayan Monal (one of the most gorgeous birds, the national bird of Nepal, the representative bird of the Himalayas)
10. Blackbuck (no need to say more)
11. Golden snub-nosed monkey (China’s iconic animal)
12. François’s Langur (the most famous langur, also found in zoos in European and American countries, not uncommon)
13. Sambar (the most representative deer in subtropical and tropical Asia, extremely widely distributed)
14. Gaur (the most majestic cow, a popular species, a representative of South Asia)
15. Pallas's Cat (a representative of the cold regions of Asia, a very distinctive small cat)
16. kiang (Since we have a horse and a donkey in Africa, why not Asia?)
17. Wild Yak (together with Gaur will complete the Asian cattle puzzle)
18. White-lipped Deer (the last piece of the Himalayan puzzle, a deer that only lives in high altitude areas, very special)
19. Mandarin Duck (Needless to say, one of the most popular “ducks”)
20. Crested Ibis (a legendary bird, one of the most exciting conservation stories, just a hair away from extinction. From only 12 left in the world to a great conservation story with a population of over 10,000)
21. Yellow-throated marten (one of the most popular mustelids, needless to say)
22. Alligator (one of the most distinctive reptiles, it can hibernate and dig caves several meters deep)
23. Visayan spotted deer (one of the national treasures of the Philippines, one of the representatives of tropical Asia, and one of the animals that has been protected in recent years)
24. Nilgai (representative ungulate of South Asia)
25. Gray Langur (the most common langur, needless to say)
If I have to be precise about just a few, I would choose according to the following ratio: Conservation animals (2), Asian temperate forests (2), Himalayas (2), South Asia (1)
 
@NZFanatic I bet we do indeed get one flying bird after thinking about it. My theory is this same thing happened with JWE everyone complained about flying birds and marine. In their last pack they finally brought out the pterodactyl. It was rather bare bones and simple but it did fill the niche. As for if it happens or not who really knows but interesting to bring up. Anyway I do disagree on frontier having a good reason to not implement a WE bird. I mean what is it to guarantee interest in a sequel. To me it’s frontier being frontier.
 
I bet we do indeed get one flying bird after thinking about it.
I don't. It's really rather simple. They are capable of adding in flying animals and have done so three times (two bats, butterflies). They know the community has been desperate for flying birds since Day Dot. They haven't added flying birds, therefore, the odds of them getting added by now are incredibly slim. Like, 99% not happening slim. In any case this is, I imagine, a deliberate tactic to withhold content in anticipation of a future sequel. If Planet Coaster 2 is happening, as everyone seems to think it is, then I have to imagine they've made new developments in terms of the game engine that allow them to do more complex things. This will likely be the same engine they use for the eventual Zoo sequel, whenever that might be.
 
No they can't. Children can't separate from adults. That isn't how it works. AFAIK the entire guest system would need to be recoded to make playgrounds functional, because right now child guests only exist as part of a mass with adult guests. They aren't individual characters.
If people expect them to be fully separated; yeah then no, but children can somewhat get visually separated from adults ingame. The education items all work that way by letting the adults "wait" on the side and letting the children interact with them.

So yeah, playgrounds can definitely work, it's just not going to be something where the parents sit on a bench and a kid runs from item to item. It would be much more of a "group walks to item A, parents wait on the sideline, children perform playing animation, kids go back to parents, group moves on" kind of thing.
 
I have a crazy dream: what if the mute swan was a "test subject"? I haven't read anywhere that the mute swan can't fly. I know it's pretty far-fetched, but what would we all be like if swans suddenly started flying around in our zoos? ;-D
I read here in the forum about financial difficulties at Frontier. If that's true, it significantly increases the chances of longer support and, in my opinion, also of flying birds, if it's technically feasible.
PZ is Frontier's flagship and Frontier knows how much many players want flying birds. That's why, in my opinion, it would be negligent of Frontier not to bring them into play without a recognizable reason. It would make perfect sense to continue to push the company's most profitable product. frontier knows full well that flying birds and fully aquatic animals would cause sales numbers to "explode"...
 
I have a crazy dream: what if the mute swan was a "test subject"? I haven't read anywhere that the mute swan can't fly. I know it's pretty far-fetched, but what would we all be like if swans suddenly started flying around in our zoos? ;-D
I read here in the forum about financial difficulties at Frontier. If that's true, it significantly increases the chances of longer support and, in my opinion, also of flying birds, if it's technically feasible.
PZ is Frontier's flagship and Frontier knows how much many players want flying birds. That's why, in my opinion, it would be negligent of Frontier not to bring them into play without a recognizable reason. It would make perfect sense to continue to push the company's most profitable product. frontier knows full well that flying birds and fully aquatic animals would cause sales numbers to "explode"...
I think they will mostly work like the flamingo or peafowl in game. That is, they wont fly per se, but they might have some "flying" animations - when the flamingo or peafowl want to navigate some rocks or "jump" over fence they do this small flying animation. I think we can safely assume it will be the same with the Swan.

IF they would like to make flying birds, they would do it with a bang - a full pack of them, just as with the diving.
 
I have a crazy dream: what if the mute swan was a "test subject"? I haven't read anywhere that the mute swan can't fly. I know it's pretty far-fetched, but what would we all be like if swans suddenly started flying around in our zoos? ;-D
I read here in the forum about financial difficulties at Frontier. If that's true, it significantly increases the chances of longer support and, in my opinion, also of flying birds, if it's technically feasible.
PZ is Frontier's flagship and Frontier knows how much many players want flying birds. That's why, in my opinion, it would be negligent of Frontier not to bring them into play without a recognizable reason. It would make perfect sense to continue to push the company's most profitable product. frontier knows full well that flying birds and fully aquatic animals would cause sales numbers to "explode"...
Crazy dream is perhaps the right description 😃. I really would Put down my expectations in this direction.
 
I think they will mostly work like the flamingo or peafowl in game. That is, they wont fly per se, but they might have some "flying" animations - when the flamingo or peafowl want to navigate some rocks or "jump" over fence they do this small flying animation. I think we can safely assume it will be the same with the Swan.

IF they would like to make flying birds, they would do it with a bang - a full pack of them, just as with the diving.
That's my assumption too, that's why I wrote about a crazy dream
 
If people expect them to be fully separated; yeah then no, but children can somewhat get visually separated from adults ingame. The education items all work that way by letting the adults "wait" on the side and letting the children interact with them.

So yeah, playgrounds can definitely work, it's just not going to be something where the parents sit on a bench and a kid runs from item to item. It would be much more of a "group walks to item A, parents wait on the sideline, children perform playing animation, kids go back to parents, group moves on" kind of thing.
honestly this sound like a reasonable idea I mean in reality a parent should be standing close by and watching their kids
 
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