Player Agency & Wasted time at the Interstellar initiative

Anything that Ouberos does in the BGS is counterable by you and all who feel likewise. You do understand that, don't you?
Yes, I do. I also understand it is a bit peculiar to expect John Doe to grind his butt off during the week just to be allowed to have a CG in the weekend. It is simple: I feel casual players should be allowed to have some casual fun with the CG without some hardcore players mucking that up. You disagree? Fine. But try to disagree without the "u prolly cheater! U no understand game!". I already have Ouberos for the petty insults about how I am a noob with no friends, one petty fellow is enough. :p
 

The truth is quite obvious: your actions can have some influence on the galaxy, but you cant have all the influence you are after. That has made your very upset, and resulted in a bunch of posts where you pretend no influence/agency exists because you didn't get the thing you wanted.

I think we're too old for such nonsense, really.



No u. :rolleyes:
Oub and his friends were impacting a relatively small area of the game. Hardly the entire galaxy as you seem to be bringing up here for some useless reason!
 
Yes, I do. I also understand it is a bit peculiar to expect John Doe to grind his butt off during the week just to be allowed to have a CG in the weekend. It is simple: I feel casual players should be allowed to have some casual fun with the CG without some hardcore players mucking that up. You disagree? Fine. But try to disagree without the "u prolly cheater! U no understand game!". I already have Ouberos for the petty insults about how I am a noob with no friends, one petty fellow is enough. :p
That's a peculiar way of saying I think that I should be able to influence the game but not those whose playstyle I dislike!
 
Just a quick thought, is a lockdown even possible at the moment?

I haven’t seen one in months, I thought they’d gone to the dustbin like the famine state.
 
That's a peculiar way of saying I think that I should be able to influence the game but not those whose playstyle I dislike!
Nope. I dont want to be able to muck up CGs for anyone either. As I clearly explain the discussion is about to which extend all of us should be allowed to influence the game. I want that to be less than you want it to be, in this case. Not sure why you insist on misrepresenting people you disagree with, or insult them.

I dislike his desire to dumb down the game.
That is just like, your opinion dude. It is also typical that you can't just disagree without calling another opinion 'dumbing down the game'. It is not as if what Ouberos wants is overly complex: a grind war with the price being the possibility to muck up a CG for thousands of people. 'Grind'+'lame'≠intelligent or deep gameplay.
 
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Nope. I dont want to be able to muck up CGs for anyone either. As I clearly explain the discussion is about to which extend all of us should be allowed to influence the game. I want that to be less than you want it to be, in this case. Not sure why you insist on misrepresenting people you disagree with, or insult them.



That is just like, your opinion dude. :)
Better than yours.

Here's how: what casual player wouldn't want to log in this weekend and discover the notorious pirate lord CMDR Ouberos had thrown Zende Partners into Lockdown putting the entire Bridging the Gap scheme into chaos!

Time to get your guns, mount up, and show these punks who's boss!

Oh wait. Garbage godmod.

How unfortunate. Better just go play something else with actual excitement and fun.
 
Better than yours.

Here's how: what casual player wouldn't want to log in this weekend and discover the notorious pirate lord CMDR Ouberos had thrown Zende Partners into Lockdown putting the entire Bridging the Gap scheme into chaos!

Time to get your guns, mount up, and show these punks who's boss!

Oh wait. Garbage godmod.

How unfortunate. Better just go play something else with actual excitement and fun.
Have you considered that these casual players may not find that fun? Or even more basic: have you considered that what you think is fun may not be fun to others, in general? As in, different people like different things? So that the thing you don't like may be liked by others, and what may have you not play the game may actually cause others to have fun?

I know it sounds bizarre to some, but for some unfathomable reason people are perfectly able to have fun in ED without having to clean up the mess others make. They dont need your 'emergent content'. They dont need you to be the awesome protagonist.
 
Nope. I dont want to be able to muck up CGs for anyone either. As I clearly explain the discussion is about to which extend all of us should be allowed to influence the game. I want that to be less than you want it to be, in this case. Not sure why you insist on misrepresenting people you disagree with, or insult them.
I think it's pretty clear that you only want like-minded people to be able to influence the game.

If people want the II to succeed in the face of opposition, they'll fight for it to do so. If not, it wasn't worth a fig to begin with.
 
Have you considered that these casual players may not find that fun? Or even more basic: have you considered that what you think is fun may not be fun to others, in general? As in, different people like different things? So that the thing you don't like may be liked by others, and what may have you not play the game may actually cause others to have fun?

I know it sounds bizarre to some, but for some unfathomable reason people are perfectly able to have fun in ED without having to clean up the mess others make. They dont need your 'emergent content'. They dont need you to be the awesome protagonist.
I've concluded you don't know what fun is.
 
For me that's just another case where the ambiguities of the game-design show through.

"It's a sandbox, you can blaze your own trail - except when you can't..."
 
Here's the deal, folks. Any ice hockey fans out there? The last game between the St. Louis Blues and San Jose Sharks was one of the most exciting this year so far. The second period alone was just absurdly fun sport to watch.

But you know what? All anyone can talk about is the messed up referee call that ended the game. Even San Jose fans are saying they want to win, but not like that.

FDEV blew it here, plain and simple. At least the NHL has the presence of mind to bench the referees in question here for the rest of the playoffs.

Folks going against the OP's point here? I wish I could bench you too.
 
My point of view? I'd be happy about a lower security level so I could pirate those NPC's. High security is to rough for me to priate anything much, no single guardian artefact so far, only some gems and stuff... And I am here with an engineered Python.
:(
 
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get an wake scanner, manifest scanner and hatch breaker and follow them in nearby systems. all are anarchy
Yes, I just started to look what's going on. Private couriers don't seem to have CG stuff. Not really sure what to look for yet. Unfortunatly I don't have a recon-limpet, so I can't even raid the installation...
 
Yes, I just started to look what's going on. Private couriers don't seem to have CG stuff. Not really sure what to look for yet. Unfortunatly I don't have a recon-limpet, so I can't even raid the installation...
Use a hatch breaker on the cargo bays to raid the installation. Might be more trouble than it's worth, though. Some posters were saying installation cargo quantity was very low.

Recon limpets are only for engineering data.
 
uss convoy you need.
threat 0 means a T6-T7-T9 with 5 escorts, but it will eventually jump in a nearby system
threat different than 0 means a convoy that will get attacked. The T will jump out as soon the convoy get attacked
 
e.g. "I can't gank an entire CG. I'm not getting 'complleing gameplay'"

The entitlement is thick enough to cut with a chainsaw.

I know this is going to come as a shock, but here it is. (and not directed at anyone in particular)

... Other people's time is as valuable as yours is.

If stress testing the BGS at the expense of other players' time is your kink, let your freak flag fly high and proud, I suppose.

But can we please not pretend everyone puts down his/her money for the same thing?

or that this is all somehow doing FDEV a huge favor?

They didn't

and it isn't.

Now burn this post to ashes....!!!
 
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