Seconded.
Please automate Supercruise - its the most pointless gameplay element.
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Seconded.
Thirded.
It's all getting a bit tiresome.
It's all getting a bit tiresome.
lets automate this player completely so he needs to do nothing in the game but watch the screen typical question from the lazy xbox /playstation gamer era
Marvellous!
Merge / don't merge. Close / don't close. It'll crop up again, bet you a ton of palladium.
Not about automating gamplay, it's more about augmenting functionality from where I sit.
The point is, in current state, i have to readjust direction, and watch out, that i dont miss the "exit event" or i have to go in circles another 20-30 seconds.
Even if we had automated supercruise, i would have, after entering system,
- to move away from the sun
- to go to the Nav panel
- to select Station
- to press the auto supercruise hotkey
After reaching Destination, to ask for landing clearance, to Start the docking Computer.
Which is all great and far away from anything like one button to play an all automated game.....but it releases me from waiting for some blue text to appear, using both of my hands and eyes....
... in the meantime, i would have time to relax for a well deserved moment, praising the emperor, reading the news or watching my superior empire vessel cutting trough space while getting a massage from one of my slaves. Shame that you cant trust them enough to let them do this stupid supercruise thing.....
Play the game you've got, or play a different game.
Alternatively, move the thread, to Gameplay and Features, dangerous discussion fora?
(One day it will be also be nice, to have planet landings, or forget it?)
As mentioned, I'd be in geek heaven, if I could control quite specific aspects .. not only of target .. but of routes, speeds, and positioning .. even ability to take automated timelapse, detailed astro-spectrum data, for sale, taken at specific intervals and angles by my "astonomical observation equipped" Cobra. Able to hold to specific co-ordinates, as controled by a sophisticated, and automatic, flight computer. This computer takes effort (and spatial awareness) to program.
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The problem with supercruise isnt that you have these large distances to travel and that you would need auto-pilot for it. The problem is how disjointed it feels from everything else. It's just so obviously take you into a spearate instance that make you fly in a straight line to your destination and then have you enter another instance for the destination area. People saying this is a space sim, you are supposed to fly. Yea that's true, but flying in a straight line, seeing mostly black space, stars in the distance and some planets (which by the way totaly lack sense of scale except for the earth-like planets and some look more like wooden spheres in space, but that's a different issue for another thread) isnt very exciting.
The transitions between supercruise and destination need to be more fluid for one. Having the actual station in sight and have the instance loading happening when you are getting closer to it, instead of these harsh transitions we currently have is one step closer to improving supercruise.
Another problem is that there's no surprises along the way except the occasional interdiction (that's more of an annoyence than anything). Where are the random asteroidfields you have to avoid? Where are other dangers of space? Seeing actuall things you WANT to go explore would make supercruise work better for exploring too. A random USS signal, removing you from one part of the game to another isnt fun to explore.
I understand there are techincal limitations to this, but there has to be ways to improve it, and I hope this is something being worked on. Adding an auto-pilot to this would be the easiest way to fix the issue some have with supercruise but in my opinion the whole mode is very barebones and lacking at the moment.
The transitions between supercruise and destination need to be more fluid for one. Having the actual station in sight and have the instance loading happening when you are getting closer to it, instead of these harsh transitions we currently have is one step closer to improving supercruise.
Another problem is that there's no surprises along the way except the occasional interdiction (that's more of an annoyence than anything). Where are the random asteroidfields you have to avoid? Where are other dangers of space? Seeing actuall things you WANT to go explore would make supercruise work better for exploring too. A random USS signal, removing you from one part of the game to another isnt fun to explore.
I understand there are techincal limitations to this, but there has to be ways to improve it, and I hope this is something being worked on. Adding an auto-pilot to this would be the easiest way to fix the issue some have with supercruise but in my opinion the whole mode is very barebones and lacking at the moment.
No, the risk I want in solo is the risk of playing a COMMERCIAL SPACE SIM.
Not a combat sim.
Understand?
There's 10000000000000000001 PvP EvE like space sims out there in MP/MMO mode. This is solo.
So you're telling me that a game with a star catalog like this is simply going to waste to those who won't even appreciate it? They're already playing in open the wrong way as it is due to the mechanics from EvE not fitting in FD (as it doesn't exist) but trying to make it work. -_-
All the Elite games put you in a dystopian sci fi version of our galaxy, where human life is a trade resource of certain value and you can be vaporised for loitering and throwing away the garbage at the wrong place. I don't think that ED is going to be the exception man. This series of games always tried to make the fact that you are NOT special abundantly clear.
If you play solo, stick to the well policed trade routes and you should be fine if trading goods is your niche/interest.
Regarding the OP question, I imagine that we will get some form of more automated super-cruise when FP mechanics are implemented in the game and we can get out of our CMDR chairs mid flight to do things. Automation though for the sake of the player not playing the game while playing the game is never going to happen really.
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With respect, I've no idea what you're saying. I know you're not even talking to me, but I would like to understand what your post meant, if you could clarify it.
I enter a far off system with a number of astronomical bodies to scan. It's different from the last system I visited so, as I enter SC to visit the first body, I arrange the order I want to visit each further body. For some I will ask for a detailed scan, for some a basic scan but instead of hitting scan hotkey when I get there, I hit the same button, earlier. The ship has a memory for the instructions that I in put. (ergo it's a programmable flight computer)
Obviously any NPC pirates I encounter during my daydream daytrip, now programmed around the system, get gunned down (manually) for being the dogs they are before I resume. (Pirates being the tornado that wrecks your Sim City from time to time, are vaporised for being obstacles to my commercial progress)
Cmdr Scadvid, are you for or against optional SC autocruise? (Right On)
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eg. the NPC implodes in projectile weapon gunfire, just as a message from my wingman comes in .. engaged with a heavy shielded narcotics trader, 30 seconds away by supercruise, losing hull. I charge the drive ..
I've no time but I must change my energy weapon settings and ship balance for this, far different prey. I do so in winglocked supercruise, losing some maneuverability to weight, but offset by my better ability to respond quickly.
In instructing SC to point - point, the moment I drop out, deploying rebalanced firegroups, I unload upon the scurvy dawg!
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Oh yeah .. don't think supercruise should be automated ..
I think cool if SC had automation available (bit of a difference)
I've no time but I must change my energy weapon settings and ship balance for this, far different prey. I do so in winglocked supercruise, losing some maneuverability to weight, but offset by my better ability to respond quickly.
In instructing SC to point - point, the moment I drop out, deploying rebalanced firegroups, I unload upon the scurvy dawg!
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Oh yeah .. don't think supercruise should be automated ..
I think cool if SC had automation available (bit of a difference)
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Not sure if some one said this in this thread, sorry if they have. A main argument against automation, at least with 'Powerplay'; You'll miss random missions which will spawn in Supercruise...
Also (of course its been discussed multiple times including the DDF); Supercruise allows some random travel within planetary systems, ostensibly to give a 'scifi' feel to the game.
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Depends. If say the mission trigger has an audible alarm (as interdiction does now) then, assuming the player is in proximity to their 'pooter, they'd still have the opportunity to cancel the autopilot and respond. Alternately, the StarDreamer system in the previous games used to cancel the time acceleration if another vessel came into proximity of you ship, a similar mechanism could be employed here.
They'd also miss mission targets that will be flying around in SC after 1.3. They also can't drop in at USS's in autopilot. They also can't avoid interdictions that happen in SC if they're in autopilot. They also can't look for ships with bounties if they're in autopilot. They also conveniently keep ignoring the fact that an autopilot would make gold farming bots a lot more achievable. So basically they want FD to spend months creating whole new mechanic which will increase the chance of gold farming exploits, in order to satisfy a small percentage of players who don't want to do missions, don't want to hunt bounties, don't like USS's, and don't mind getting interdicted so that they don't have to watch the screen for a few minutes coz they think it's boring.... and they think it's boring BECAUSE they don't want to do any of the stuff in SC that you can already do and that they'll introduce in future.
I keep saying it but the autopilot drones won't hear of it... the way to fix SC being boring is not to make it MORE boring and letting you ignore it, but to put more content in it so it's something you WANT to do.
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Thank you Sandman; -a much more complete response. I'm sure FD will be creating more things in SC for our involvement.
Who says you're ALWAYS looking for a USS? .. if you see one, disengage the AP
Good for the pirates if hunting fat traders
Probably an anti - grind mechanic (for traders) ..
but if you can do it in SC, no reason to stop you doing it in auto
could build ... mechanic that degrades the auto SC precision (so you crash) the more percent of the time you use it. if AP and auto dock used 100% of the time, it crashes quickly (eg. the Police notice, no one at the wheel and kill you)
could be a paid expansion pass. (see above re: your gold farmers)
"not ANOTHER thread on this?" (no idea myself)
not necessarily all at the same time
actually I was thinking about cramp! and a certain degree of repetitiveness
there's an issue with supercruise exit optimising, a predicted flight path might help with
suggesting an ADD .. detailed control over navigational systems .. is more content
retains manual over-ride, for ED core and combat ..
eventually you'd get bored with auto!! (but with option can mix it up)
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That isn't even what I stated.
If a game is made to resemble a space sim, trade = COMMERCIAL SPACE SIM.
I careless of the story or the history, put in controls like this and it's a COMMERCIAL SPACE SIM.
I didn't get ED to be EvE 2.
I didn't get ED to be Buck Rogers.
If the mechanics is I have to freaking jump 200000000000000000000000000000000000000000x times to finance A ship, it better be more than some space opera. -_-
Yep, and ED's doesn't. That's the difference that you're not seeing.
That's A-10C's 'altitude and heading hold' autopilot mode, which keeps you on target by correcting for crosswind.
A-10C's 'flight path hold' autopilot mode is more like ED's supercruise - it keeps you going in the direction you're pointing with no correction.
Sure I can set throttle to 75% when the SC countdown starts, point in the right direction, and hope. But there's no chance of accurately aiming at something that's several thousand light seconds away.
Just like in DCS - point yourself at a waypoint and activate autopilot in flight path hold mode, and you'll end up in the wrong place.
Now that's a great misinterpretation of what I've said.
You might be getting me confused with other posters in this thread.
I want the same type of autopilot as in DCS. In fact, not even, I just want the 'altitude and heading hold' mode from it in ED.
If I've aligned the blue dot of my destination in the little targeting thingy (whatever it's called) then it shouldn't be much to ask the ship's computer (which is already managing my throttle for me in SC) to keep that blue dot in the middle of the targeting thingy for me.
I don't really think that people want an 'auto trader' function to be added, or auto combat, or any of the silly predictions made by people who see this as the thin end of the wedge, or the final straw, or whatever.
I think that they just want something to make a dull element of the game a little bit less dull, that's all.
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