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Please don't attack defenseless...
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lol OK Akoomer
It's not the blocking accusations, it's the premium ammo, it's EDR spyware that myself and others think you should be permanently banned for, it's all these propaganda threads like this that your boss likes to make and it's the fact that you fly with G4NK and their awful tactics.Which is great. I sincerely wish you much success with this project of yours.
Same goes for the challenge you had, have(?) about giving away LTDs to folks who successfully destroy you.
IIRC, threeofnine once did this livestreamed event in which you had to destroy him before he reached a certain station. I personally gave it my best shot and it was really fun.
I don't think we've ever properly met one another.
In fact, a lot of folks have yet to meet you based on your EDR sightings
A lot of what you may have read about "us" is biased. There is also a ton of missing context.
I mean, I'd take with a grain of salt anything that's coming from folks who don't mind saying things as bad as "I loathe you are still breathing" to one of our pilots. I don't think anyone deserve to hear that, neither should anyone be so upset about a game to resort to that, even if drunk or baked.
We are capable of agreeing on common grounds / arbitrary rules for the benefit of mutual fun. In fact for a long time, we have done (and still do) that with specific groups, and it's fun. Sadly, one such group suddenly started to throw insults and unsubstantiated claims about our group, as well as impersonating us or claiming that we were to blame for their actions,etc. Outside of the game, it's even worse. So, why would we bother trying to be amenable with such players? The ball is on their side: they just need to stop their in-and-out-of-game bad attitude.
Just look at what some of them came up with to rationalize why they have blocked me in-game: "holding a broken CZ instance" during the Code war in Riedquat.
I looked into my player journal and found out that, on the first day of the conflict, on my first ever instance, it only took 1 minutes 30 seconds for one of them to make the bold claim that I was holding a broken instance of a CZ and therefore "abusing" the system. I know nothing about BGS. I was doing recon and anchoring my friends. We eventually left 5 minutes after I first dropped. Then we came back and these folks were still in their broken instance (without anyone of us AFAIR). They did that (complaining about a broken instance) for what looks like almost 30 minutes... They should have just switched to a different CZ, or even go into PG/Solo for that matter. Honestly, we had the same issues of broken CZ (not resetting, or not completing), we didn't blame Fdev's bugs / design mistake on others, we just went to a different CZ or did other things.
If the mere act of dropping into an occupied CZ (to bring your wing, or slow down the progress by dropping mines or whatever, or even try to do the CZ), can put you at risk of being called an abuser and getting blocked, then that's nonsense. If these folks didn't want to be bothered, then why did they play in open in the first place?
To this day, most of them are still blocking me despite the fact that the war has been over for almost 2 months
It's always the same: jumping to conclusions, generalizations, don't do what I do, etc.
You've only encountered me a handful of times because I actively avoid you guys. The last time I fought you guys, you lost one ring of shields before high waking out. Tell me why I or anyone else would enjoy playing with you guys? I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt about the whole blocking in Riedquat thing but all your other tactics are dirty and no fun to fight against. The use of premium ammo alone, which I have seen Spear promote multiple times, is enough for me to never want to fight you.
Also, I have no problem with instancing with players. I don't just teach them PvP, I do pretend ganks with my trainees and talk them through the steps of how to escape. I'm curious why Spear doesn't offer something similar.
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lmao at the talk about dropping mines in CZs to disrupt the people actually fighting and not actually going out to fight the zone, just disrupt the game for the people that are playing there and complaining about getting blocked for it though
isn't that what the block function is supposedly for, to get rid of jerks that are just out to ruin the game for other people so you can play in peace? It's something that I see new players advised to use all the time around here.
isn't that what the block function is supposedly for, to get rid of jerks that are just out to ruin the game for other people so you can play in peace? It's something that I see new players advised to use all the time around here.
I gank innocents all the time, I just avoid where you are. If I ever, I'll just high wake if I encounter you. You're no fun to fight with soas long you dont grief innocents or civilians you will not have to fight us. if you do...
@Sir Ganksalot nothing more to say then...
Hahahahaha this thread delivered this morning.
You SPEAR guys don't run into me because I'm usually in Colonia. But hey, ask Estelar about the last time he was up here. I bagged him with a PA shot right as he was about to high wake. Whoops.
as long you dont grief innocents or civilians you will not have to fight us. if you do...
"Innocents." "Civiliians." This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stop acting like players are damsels in distress waiting for you to swoop in.
Besides, we're all Pilots Federation. Ain't nothing innocent about any of us.
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This attitude right here is the main reason you're no fun to fight with. It's really unfortunate that you're the leader of Spear.
Don't hear what I'm not saying. I have no problem with people using premium ammo, I just won't fight with anyone using it.
The vast majority of pvpers, across all platforms, have all agreed not to use premium in PvP, including the enforcers on Xbox and that's just a fact. Outside of pvp, it's absolutely fine, even I use premium for PvE, but for PvP, if someone want to use premium, that's fine, I just won't fight with those people. I spend so much of my time farming materials to engineer my ships, I'm not about to double that amount of time on a consistent basis because a few people want to use premium.
As soon as it's been shown that the tactical blocking actually occured on the side of outlaws/gankers, they changed their tune to things like that. Again, I never thought I would hear these folks speak like the "carebear" they like to make fun of.
Dropping mines to slow down a CZ is legit gameplay, if anything that bothers have you go to the blocking feature, you might as well play in Mobius, pg or solo instead of breaking instance for everyone including your wingmates and friends, all the while pretending that you don't hide in such modes.
It's just a fake excuse, just like premium abuse (I don't use rail guns, let alone the slug version; and I wouldn't be surprised that premium is abused on the other side, see the tactical blocking debacle), or whatever nonsense du jour about EDR.
I guess it's rather pointless to argue with folks who are making stuff up all the damn time.
Yes I remember, 4 of you against my 2 shield booster biweave FDL, and all using crimes on, which is ok for me (I just order my 2 secnd KWS from the bubble and problem solved), but probably if I had been the one with crimes on you would have started a big drama, because whatever we do is bad, but when you outlaws broke those rules there is always a good excuse.
There's only two major rules of PvP, don't use premium ammo and don't reverski. You can do both of those if you want but the rest of the PvP community, minus a few like Spear, won't fight with you. Oh and no logging of course but that should be a given.
Premium slug rails are not worth the hassle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546680783725658113/733689779652132984/unknown.png
as i wrote in different discords i really had similar fdls and i used partially the premium rails (when we used counter terror style) and partially not. but i also noticed the damage was just the same.
thats the reason why. this week i had time for a detailed test. the game is calculating in the actuel mechanic plasma slug with 20% damage reduction and not 10% as it is written everywhere and even in the game.
i personally cant be arsed to farm premium mats. in that case i prefer the disadvantage and being shot with premium.
as i wrote in different discords i really had similar fdls and i used partially the premium rails (when we used counter terror style) and partially not. but i also noticed the damage was just the same.
thats the reason why. this week i had time for a detailed test. the game is calculating in the actuel mechanic plasma slug with 20% damage reduction and not 10% as it is written everywhere and even in the game.
i personally cant be arsed to farm premium mats. in that case i prefer the disadvantage and being shot with premium.
Ok, what about premium on a pair of super pen rails or a set of TC PA's which I know I've been hit with from your other guys? Still doesn't change the fact that you promote the use of premium and is a MAJOR reason why we don't like fighting with you and why you're not welcome in PvP hub and other PvP tournaments besides your own.Premium slug rails are not worth the hassle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546680783725658113/733689779652132984/unknown.png
as i wrote in different discords i really had similar fdls and i used partially the premium rails (when we used counter terror style) and partially not. but i also noticed the damage was just the same.
thats the reason why. this week i had time for a detailed test. the game is calculating in the actuel mechanic plasma slug with 20% damage reduction and not 10% as it is written everywhere and even in the game.
i personally cant be arsed to farm premium mats. in that case i prefer the disadvantage and being shot with premium.
Honestly, I don't even know what you're talking about with half of that.
There is no heat weapon that isn't allowed. There is no weapon that isn't allowed. I can't speak for anyone else when it comes to blocking but I have never and will never block another player. But why would you block players you're trying to fight with?
I don't see any double standard here. There's only 3 things I won't fight against, premium ammo, reverskis and cloggers.
If you don't like the rules then don't PvP. Or do PvP with Spear.
Thanks for stating the rules.
Now with all my respect, I don't think I completely understand your point of view.
Do you mean that it is legitimous to interdict and destroy an innocent trader but he cannot use premium ammo to defend himself?
Or do you refer to pure combat-to-combat PvP where both sides agree with this?
Also, no rule regarding the 'report crimes against me' option?
Thank you
I'm only referring to consensual, legitimate PvP. If a gankee wants to defend themselves with premium or have crimes on, sure. Whatever floats their boat.
Lolwut? Any special wishes on top, little flower?
Not my rules. The 1000+ pvpers that all agree to this. When I joined the PvP community 3 years ago this is what I was told and after spending 3 years doing it, I agree. If you don't like it, join Spears PvP community. I'm surprised this is a shock to you considering you always seem to be such an expert on gankers, pvpers and open. Aren't you the same person that complains regularly about engineering yet you somehow think no premium is ridiculous?
Tell you what, you go fight a certain player from G4NK and tell me how much fun that is.
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Yes, that's me. And I'd rather use the odd premium ammo than grind the wastebag of engineers. And should I ever meet you, I'll gladly remember to use reverski - not that it'd improve my chances against the metaships - but just to spite you.
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