Pleiades Colonization!

Baleur

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Another typical US-centric world projection (or rather galaxy-projection), by a poster with the american flag as his avatar and suggesting all stations be named after former US presidents.
Give me a break..
Elite Dangerous is supposed to represent a future of humanity as a whole, not as a nationalistic narrow minded extrapolation of the 2015 political sphere.
If you have to name them after human figures in history, surely they should be named after explorers and scientists, not political figures.
At least pretend to have the capacity for a human perspective on things. You can keep the avatar image, but keep your rampant nationalism out of space games which are supposed to have moved beyond such trivial matters of labelling. Thank you.
Because if you really want the Elite Dangerous universe to be named based on political figures, you wouldnt see anything else than Indian and Chinese names in the galaxy, if we assume it is reasonable to attribute naming priority based on the global world population & culture demographics. Its supposed to represent the majority of humanity, after all.
 
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Ambrosius Dalfinger

Ambrosius Dalfinger
I like the idea. It also could come to be a lawless pit of grief lol

Baleur said:
Another typical US-centric world projection (or rather galaxy-projection), by a poster with the american flag as his avatar and suggesting all stations be named after former US presidents.
Give me a break..
Elite Dangerous is supposed to represent a future of humanity as a whole, not as a nationalistic narrow minded extrapolation of the 2015 political sphere.
If you have to name them after human figures in history, surely they should be named after explorers and scientists, not political figures.
At least pretend to have the capacity for a human perspective on things. You can keep the avatar image, but keep your rampant nationalism out of space games which are supposed to have moved beyond such trivial matters of labelling. Thank you.
Because if you really want the Elite Dangerous universe to be named based on political figures, you wouldnt see anything else than Indian and Chinese names in the galaxy, if we assume it is reasonable to attribute naming priority based on the global world population & culture demographics. Its supposed to represent the majority of humanity, after all.
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Huh?
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
Baleur said:
Another typical US-centric world projection (or rather galaxy-projection), by a poster with the american flag as his avatar and suggesting all stations be named after former US presidents.
Give me a break..
Elite Dangerous is supposed to represent a future of humanity as a whole, not as a nationalistic narrow minded extrapolation of the 2015 political sphere.
If you have to name them after human figures in history, surely they should be named after explorers and scientists, not political figures.
At least pretend to have the capacity for a human perspective on things. You can keep the avatar image, but keep your rampant nationalism out of space games which are supposed to have moved beyond such trivial matters of labelling. Thank you.
Because if you really want the Elite Dangerous universe to be named based on political figures, you wouldnt see anything else than Indian and Chinese names in the galaxy, if we assume it is reasonable to attribute naming priority based on the global world population & culture demographics. Its supposed to represent the majority of humanity, after all.
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I'm re-writing this because I wrote this with little thought, and very early in the morning for me, EST. I'm not going for much realism here, and besides that point, I would be happy to have a system full of British or other presidents, if that would make you happy :), also, when you said "Give me a break..", a man can't be a little nationalistic from time to time? :)
 
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Vasious

Vasious
I thought the names fitted the imagined theme of the Frontier West in the Gold rush period set in the PLEIADES SECTOR

Any worse that Planets names, Salisbury, Aberdeen and Newhall in Firefly?
 

Nutter

Nutter
I would love to have the honor of naming something in ED - :D

You may have noticed that I have been busy in RL of late so apologies, I'm holding off updating a few of my threads to contain 1.3 content, save me doing two overhauls if that makes sense.

I'll take a run out to Pleiades at the weekend (My next opportunity to get on ED)

Cheers

Nutter
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
Ziggy Starduster said:
Ah yes, the famous Gold Rush Pioneer Ronald Reagan.


Which the developers named. All I wanted to know is how someone can claim the right to name stuff and appoint other people to name stuff. That's all.

Naming a station after Ronald Reagan surely is a joke.
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All names are suggested. I'm asking the devs if that system could be named by me, because I have spent quite a few hours on this already. What I meant in reply to Baleur is that names are a tiny part of this entire project that I have selected on a whim, and I would like him and all others to not argue over them, and instead concentrate on the actual content of the post.
 

Greyhawk

Greyhawk
Just remember wherever you put people you put griefers and pirates. Whether you want that on an exploration route - I dunno. I suggested a base at Sag A* and was soundly (forgive the pun) shot down due to this.
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
Ziggy Starduster said:
Ah yes, the famous Gold Rush Pioneer Ronald Reagan.
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Gave me a good laugh!

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Greyhawk said:
Just remember wherever you put people you put griefers and pirates. Whether you want that on an exploration route - I dunno. I suggested a base at Sag A* and was soundly (forgive the pun) shot down due to this.
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Well, I guess I was wrong when I assumed that explorers normally play in Solo mode, because it's so much safer and they can take High-Resolution screenshots. Personally, the idea of a base at Sag. A* is probably impossible, because, extremely huge black hole, and very close :)
 

Greyhawk

Greyhawk
A black hole is just the same as any other object with mass. It has a point where the escape velocity goes over the speed of light (event horizon) but at any other distance you can orbit it just fine. The danger is when its feeding the accretion disk will cause lethal levels of radiation.

Keep matter away from it and you can orbit it just fine. If the sun turned into a black hole, the earth would continue in its orbit just as it would now. It would be a lot colder of course.
 

Tinman

Tinman
For colonization that far off (relatively speaking) to make sense in the game we need a purpose for going there, as others have already commented. There need to be rare resources in greater quantities or maybe even truly unique ones. Maybe relics/ruins of long lost civilizations that simply can't be found anywhere else. The devs obviously needs to make this content though and before this happens I don't really see colonization happening naturally...no matter how beautiful the nebulas might be. ;) The devs will get there eventually, but the trick is how they will get that content into the game in a way that doesn't feel forced. The permit locked systems are obviously reserved for some of this, but even non-permit systems should also have more "unique" things added to the as time goes by IMO which would drive colonization efforts to new places naturally.

One of the biggest mistakes they made when releasing the game IMO was that exploration was/is too easy when it comes to moving around the galaxy outside of human space and known worlds. The galactic map should have had a "fog of war" applied too it. I mean, why is it we can enter the galactic map, move over to the opposite side of the galaxy that is hidden by the galactic core and still see each individual star there? When the game started noone had been there! Beyond a certain bubble around your ship (and human space) we simply shouldn't have been able to see the stars until we got closer. They could also have created gameplay around mapping out jumps to newly found stars on the Frontier. The data could then be sold to people who want to take the safe route. This would have slowed down the exploration outwards (giving the developers more time to add things into the galaxy before players got there) while still giving the explorers things to do. I'm still hoping for "dark systems" in-between star systems that explorers later can find with specialized equipment and map out...
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
I really don't see why this shouldn't happen.

It makes sense for scientific outposts to be placed in areas of scientific interest. It makes sense for military outposts to be placed in areas of military interest.

Yet what we have is everything clustered into a small ball of systems in one area. This makes no sense at all, neither in gameplay terms, lore terms, or in fact any definition of sense at all. :D

It would open up so much more of interest in the game to find such outposts.

What about hidden pirate outposts in some unused system? So much potential...
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
Granite said:
I really don't see why this shouldn't happen.

It makes sense for scientific outposts to be placed in areas of scientific interest. It makes sense for military outposts to be placed in areas of military interest.

Yet what we have is everything clustered into a small ball of systems in one area. This makes no sense at all, neither in gameplay terms, lore terms, or in fact any definition of sense at all. :D

It would open up so much more of interest in the game to find such outposts.

What about hidden pirate outposts in some unused system? So much potential...
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There really is a huge amount of potential in this idea (yes, blowing my own horn here), and since 1.3 has made mining viable, I definitely think that colonization should happen. There could be a new power, say, Friedrich Gutenberg's Pleiades Union? :)

I'll PM Edward Lewis with the idea. The potential opened up with 1.3, and I'm more excited now than I have been in the past month.
 

clavain

clavain
I think the Pleiades should be named the first Galactic Stellar Reserve, and placed off-limits to colonisation and resource exploitation due to its significant natural beauty and starscape and scientific importance, not to mention the cultural importance of the constellation to many diverse ethnicities. I would also volunteer to be one of the first Pleiades Rangers, who would enforce such a designation against any who might try to act counter to such a joint Galactic designation by the three major factions. :)
 
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CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
clavain said:
I think the Pleiades should be named the first Galactic Stellar Reserve, and placed off-limits to colonisation and resource exploitation due to its significant natural beauty and starscape and scientific importance. I would also volunteer to be one of the first Pleiades Rangers, who would enforce such a designation against any who might try to act counter to such a joint Galactic designation by the three major factions. :)
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That could be a counter-CG. I'd have to find you and kill you, though.
 
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