POLL: Should ED have an Auto Pilot?

[Ziggy Stardust]

You forgot Honk, check the system map for interesting planets Dedicated exploration goes:
Press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, fly to distant ELW only to find it's a High Metal Content, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, get really bored and scan a gas giant for Ammonia based life, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map, press the jump button, scoop, honk, check system map....

Couple of things

Fly to distant ELW only to find it's a High Metal Content -> Use the sound Luke! ELWs make a distinct jungle sounds in the system map when selected.

When you check the system map, do you only check for high value stuff? If so, maybe also look out for binary land-able planets, landable planets close to the sun, landable binary moons, very small potato moons, those sort of things.

What you're describing is not Dedicated Exploring, it's travelling with occasional scanning for monetary purposes. Exploration would imply investigation not just for monetary incentives, but because you're interested in the thing you're investigating. And now I'm falling for the No True Explorer fallacy, so to counter that: there is of course not one way to explore, but as many ways as there are explorers. So I'll immediately adjust that to: What you're describing is not Dedicated Exploring, it's just one way to explore

 

[Leo Sagan]

If FD want to make an autopilot they will.

Yup, definitely ! As they totally wanted instant transfer ships and they totally ignored the forums and their own poll after that, totally implementing said feature afterwards.

+rep to you for the totally good laugh

 

[nordish]

No.
Nuff said.

 

[lysan]

A 3rd party app can be your auto pilot?

Yes, however FD ask not to use it, so its not considered to be ok.

 

[BigBANGtheory [VR]]

 

[Kellan Fell]

Couple of things

Fly to distant ELW only to find it's a High Metal Content -> Use the sound Luke! ELWs make a distinct jungle sounds in the system map when selected.

When you check the system map, do you only check for high value stuff? If so, maybe also look out for binary land-able planets, landable planets close to the sun, landable binary moons, very small potato moons, those sort of things.

What you're describing is not Dedicated Exploring, it's travelling with occasional scanning for monetary purposes. Exploration would imply investigation not just for monetary incentives, but because you're interested in the thing you're investigating. And now I'm falling for the No True Explorer fallacy, so to counter that: there is of course not one way to explore, but as many ways as there are explorers. So I'll immediately adjust that to: What you're describing is not Dedicated Exploring, it's just one way to explore

To be honest when I go out on a true exploration trip I scan pretty much everything, iceballs, airless rocks, everything...
All I was trying to do was prove a point and maybe inject a little humour into the debate (obviously failed there). The point is that doing long range stuff inside the bubble (or getting out of explored space to begin a proper run in the black) requires probably a couple of hours of jump, scoop, jump style wash/rinse/repeat. Once you're away from the hurley burley of civilised (and I use that word loosely) space, then if you need a nature break, or a brew, then you can pretty safely go AFK, but you're still wash/rinse/repeat, and to be honest the game has enough of that already.

Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but I don't see how simply having something that handles a few jumps for you or stops you from having the spiral of shame when you tweak the throttle too high over 50ls out from a station and the ship just overreacts is "destroying game play". Let's be honest with each other, no-one likes going 5,000ls in super cruise having to constantly adjust trajectory slightly or bring the make sure your arrival stays at 0.6 or above to avoid the spiral dance. Most people do other things... There are people out there watching Netflix whilst cruising to Hutton Orbital, or playing another game on a second monitor whilst flying to Jacques who only look at the screen if they get interdicted. Personally I don't see how a navigation computer that automatically performs the "press the J key, line up, press the J key" for the 5, 6 or 7 jumps most ships have before they run out of fuel would be an issue. It won't scoop, it won't handle interdictions, it won't fight. It just points the ship in the right direction and presses jump...

If you're already playing a second game, how can this be a problem for you? Personally I use a Rift, so if I go to Hutton I experience every last second of it as I can't read or watch TV in a headset.

 

[charognard]

Lol 70% vs 30%.... i have saw it somewhere.... ^^

 

[Jex =TE=]

Poll results are in, thanks everyone for voting seems pretty clear cut that for reasons unknown...no, not for reasons unknown we set down on company orders and that...thing, that thing wiped out my entire crew,..... and your expensive ship.

Anyway, looks like the idea got nuked from orbit!

 

[Alien]

What I find weird about this is those who don't want this would never have to experience it.

This is an often used, and stupid argument. Just it being in the game makes the game worse.
Look, stop demanding stuff be in the game. The majority don't want it, and would rather Frontier make the game how Frontier see fit.
When Frontier want your opinion, they'll ask.

FYI ... whenever these types of threads pop up, us long time players take a big sigh and facepalm.

 

[Jex =TE=]

This is an often used, and stupid argument. Just it being in the game makes the game worse.
Look, stop demanding stuff be in the game. The majority don't want it, and would rather Frontier make the game how Frontier see fit.
When Frontier want your opinion, they'll ask.

FYI ... whenever these types of threads pop up, us long time players take a big sigh and facepalm.

I'll remind you that you are on a forum and you have no authority to tell anyone, anywhere what they can or can't say.

Secondly, no, we don't take a big sigh though I'm sure you've done the requisite polling to show how "us long time players" do this?

Thridly, Frontier making the game they see fit? Because PowerPlay, CQC and Engineers where such a big hit weren't they....

I'll also point out that due to the player base, we don't have instant ship transfers which was going to be a thing. Thank god most of us were on the same page for that, demonstrably game breaking decision FDev made.

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Lol 70% vs 30%.... i have saw it somewhere.... ^^

LOL I know, the irony!

 

[Vasea Azure]

So here's the question which you must read before answering.

Question:

Should Elite Dangerous have an autopilot that can only be used for jumping to systems (and be able to do multiple jumps till you run out of fuel) and then navigating to stations with no ability to fight or raise shields or make cookies?

I sdhould have added this so apologies for that - discussion here...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/294834-Navigation-Computer-needed

Yes Elite should have this optional feature.
And now I`m garbing my popcorn and will read entire discussion under your pool.

 

[Alien]

I'll remind you that you are on a forum and you have no authority to tell anyone, anywhere what they can or can't say.

Secondly, no, we don't take a big sigh though I'm sure you've done the requisite polling to show how "us long time players" do this?

Thridly, Frontier making the game they see fit? Because PowerPlay, CQC and Engineers where such a big hit weren't they....

I'll also point out that due to the player base, we don't have instant ship transfers which was going to be a thing. Thank god most of us were on the same page for that, demonstrably game breaking decision FDev made.

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LOL I know, the irony!

"stop demanding stuff be in the game" ... Yeah I'll tell you and anyone that. It's advice. It's worded bluntly to get a point across. I and others are fed up of it. I am fed up of people thinking they know enough to demand features be in the game. I've been on this forum longer than most, campaigned for this game to exist long before the kickstarter, and even I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to think I knew enough to demand/request/suggest something be in the game. I've always known that Frontier will make the game they want to make regardless of what I think.

AND ... I am also mature enough to accept that ideas I have about anything are not always a good idea, and if I do mention something and a lot of people tell me it's not a good idea, won't work or not wanted, I am mature enough to accept that they are probably right, not argue about it over and over and over insisting it happen. That is the behaviour of a stubborn idiot (note, I am not calling anyone a stubborn idiot).

Yes, maybe PowerPlay, CQC (now Arena) and Engineers are not the best implemented ideas, but it's not my game, or yours ... it's Frontiers game, and if that's what they want in the game, then that's what will be in the game. I accept the game, even the parts I don't like (I have never touched Powerplay). If Frontier decide to put auto-pilot in I'll accept that too.

As for instant ship transfer, the last version of events I heard were that Frontier were going to implement a delay, then a whiney bunch on this forum complained, so Frontier decided to make it instant, then another bunch decided to debate in favour of a delay. Frontier decided to have a vote on it (they asked for our opinion) and wouldn't you know it? The majority wanted a delay.

Another example of frontier asking for our input is the passenger destination thread.

Now, if you and others really think you're so knowledgeable as to dictate to Frontier what should be in the game, don't waste your time replying to me, long time troll that I am, instead, go out and make your own hit game the exact way you want it. I'll support your game the exact same way I'll support Frontier's.

 

[Ninj]

For those of you who don't want to actually fly... maybe you should reconsider your choice of game?

 

[Haramir]

We have already Autopilot you can fit... Docking Computer

 

[Alteph Four]

I wouldn't use it - seems to me that it defeats the purpose of the game.

If FDev want to add one, fine, but it should be a low priority item.

How exactly does it defeat the purpose of the game? The purpose of the game is to entertain. If you think anything else, your wrong. Now this game entertains by being a simulation, so folks want it to be accurate. I get that. I however am not a fanatic, and personally, on some of the longer voyages I take I would like to be able to set the autopilot and go do laundry, for example.

I cannot see how this could possibly impact anyone elses gameplay. If you dont like the feature, dont use it. But I for one would love to see it.

 

[Jabezz]

Just it being in the game makes the game worse.

FYI ... whenever these types of threads pop up, us long time players take a big sigh and facepalm.

Lol great response to an arguement. Impossible to reason with because that's the come back..."I don't know it just is".

And then the ultimate put down to be excluded from the group known as 'long time players'. ROFL.

 

[Alien]

And then the ultimate put down to be excluded from the group known as 'long time players'. ROFL.

Well, I was here before the kickstarter, so my idea of "long time player" is probably different to other people's. I make no apology for that.

EDIT: I'm not replying again in this thread. I've said all I want to say, I'm not going to argue the point. Feel free to quote me, disagree and have the last word.

 

[lysan]

For those of you who don't want to actually fly... maybe you should reconsider your choice of game?

What a silly remark, the topic just went over your head in Mrk 2 didn't it?

However it's in the original design, go read the DDF, go read the game description from the KS go check out the FFE game.

it's coming because it's common sense to have it. If it was up to some of you guys, we would still be squatting in caves eating raw meat. LMAO!

 

[Jabezz]

Well, I was here before the kickstarter, so my idea of "long time player" is probably different to other people's. I make no apology for that.

This has a similar ring to the kind of arguments I hear my 9 year old niece having with here school friends. It's probably a good job we aren't playing with your bat and ball because I'm sure you'd be taking it home by now.

 

[natte hond]

FYI ... whenever these types of threads pop up, us long time players take a big sigh and facepalm.

Yep So true