POLL: Should ED have an Auto Pilot?

Should Elite Dangerous have an autopilot that can only be used for jumping to systems (and be able t

  • YES

    Votes: 242 30.6%
  • NO

    Votes: 550 69.4%

  • Total voters
    792
  • Poll closed .
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What is sad- apart from "its press to win" "its not elite" or "I don't like it you cant have it" "go play other game" I see very little reasonable arguments against AP - it happens every time the topic shows up. Before voting no maybe think a bit and see that it would not brake the game or make it "easier" in any way. If implemented correctly it would be absolutely ok if optional.
 
For those of you who don't want to actually fly... maybe you should reconsider your choice of game? :p

I don't consider staring on the screen and occasionally pressing jump button "flying" Commander. Dogfighting in the asteroid belt on the dark side of the planet - that is FLYING!
 
Hmm i might ask why you even play this game when your not even flying your own ship anymore ?
Why not just ask for a bot programm that does everything for you and when you have all the founds you buy the ship you want and go PvP ( because PvE seems nothing for you )?
The next thing would be since you did never fly your own ship you will suck at PvP and whining how overpowerd this and that is or use some other bot with scripts that even do PvP for you.

Really if you want the game do everything for you, whats the point of even playing ? You rankings would mean nothing since you did not archive em.
Might be better you go watch youtube or twich then.

People whining about the grind ( what grind btw ? ) and asking for a auto pilot are playing the wrong game. Elite is nothing for you, do yourself a favor play some other game mainly a pay 2 win will fit you well.
If you have no money for that find a game where you can cheat or use bot programms to finally archive nothing by your own and come to the conclusion that you suck at playing games.
 
If you want to sit doing nothing, watching a ship fly from one System to another, then to another, then on to a Station, then land. Watch the steam broadcasts, it amount to the same thing. Of course, this is my opinion, but this time it is absolutely correct without question or without argument. Stupidest poll in the world...ever.
 
Hmm i might ask why you even play this game when your not even flying your own ship anymore ?
Why not just ask for a bot programm

Bots exploitation is the big argument against I think. However (also a long term player and KS backer) there is a DEFINITE distinction between 'the game' playing itself and 'the ship', flying itself at times. The obvious one is, if you do get interdicted, you'll end up toasted if you're AFK. Personally I kind of prefer an 'auto-cruise' (in system) and my fear is, if you had both (insystem + interstellar) it does become exploitable (someone feel free explain how you could avoid that IF both forms of a-pilot existed).

So I have a pref. for in-system but some level of executive flight hand-off could be an alternate way to play the same game if handled right, and imo is very different, from ordering your ship to pick up commodity A and take it to B (a la Eve?). If there's no time saving and no particular advantage, I don't really see what the argument against can be (except for highlighting the risk of bot exploits).

Frontier are doing a good job I think of taking the original concept of Elite and FE2 and pushing the envelope with new features (SRV, fighters etc.) and for that reason, again stressing that it would need balancing, simply denying the idea an airing is a bad idea commercially, as it only goes to exclude the people who DID want instant ship transfer (I didn't, but quite a few, even though minority did vote for that).

This idea could be concessionary for one thing but as far as I can see, is nothing like instant transfer (and I'm a proper old duffer).
 
I would not like to see it used for system jumping but I would like it used for exploration when you need to travel to a distant planet in a system just to scan it.
But if you are interdicted (by NPC or Player) thats just bad luck if you are not watching the screen. This will stop people from setting and forgetting. Make it a module that you need to buy for the ship
that is not cheap.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
"stop demanding stuff be in the game" ... Yeah I'll tell you and anyone that. It's advice. It's worded bluntly to get a point across. I and others are fed up of it. I am fed up of people thinking they know enough to demand features be in the game. I've been on this forum longer than most, campaigned for this game to exist long before the kickstarter, and even I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to think I knew enough to demand/request/suggest something be in the game. I've always known that Frontier will make the game they want to make regardless of what I think.

AND ... I am also mature enough to accept that ideas I have about anything are not always a good idea, and if I do mention something and a lot of people tell me it's not a good idea, won't work or not wanted, I am mature enough to accept that they are probably right, not argue about it over and over and over insisting it happen. That is the behaviour of a stubborn idiot (note, I am not calling anyone a stubborn idiot).

Yes, maybe PowerPlay, CQC (now Arena) and Engineers are not the best implemented ideas, but it's not my game, or yours ... it's Frontiers game, and if that's what they want in the game, then that's what will be in the game. I accept the game, even the parts I don't like (I have never touched Powerplay). If Frontier decide to put auto-pilot in I'll accept that too.

As for instant ship transfer, the last version of events I heard were that Frontier were going to implement a delay, then a whiney bunch on this forum complained, so Frontier decided to make it instant, then another bunch decided to debate in favour of a delay. Frontier decided to have a vote on it (they asked for our opinion) and wouldn't you know it? The majority wanted a delay.

Another example of frontier asking for our input is the passenger destination thread.

Now, if you and others really think you're so knowledgeable as to dictate to Frontier what should be in the game, don't waste your time replying to me, long time troll that I am, instead, go out and make your own hit game the exact way you want it. I'll support your game the exact same way I'll support Frontier's.

LOL ok ok calm down and keep Britain Tidy.

Sorry, but it's not FD's game if they want people to keep buyingh it and if they have any sense, they'll take advice from people that have been playing games for years and know what they're talking about.

We've both agreed that FDev made bad decisions when it came to the things they implemented. It does you no good to remind us all they could be better.

This is a forum, it's where we come to discuss things. Nobody is demanding an AP, what is happening is people that don't want it can't put together a valid argument for not wanting it. No demnads are being made - stop blowing this out of proportion.

Another example of frontier asking for our input is the passenger destination thread.

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You do realise that without player input they had no passengers, right? That they simply didn't know where any good palces where so they desperately had to beg the players for input.

You do realise that when you tell us all that you "supported the game befiore kickstarter and you've been here years" that practically everyone here is going to dismiss that and know you're really saying, "I'm more importnant than you all here"

Well, you're not. And your bad arguments and faulty logic put you back even farther in making decisions about the game. If you can't provide a good argument against AP, then how can anyone take you seriously and you're going to let FD make their game however they want, even if they make it the worst game ever?

If you were on the titanic would you have just said nothing if you saw an iceberg? Oh well, I'm not going to bother the captain with the course he chooses to take...

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For those of you who don't want to actually fly... maybe you should reconsider your choice of game? :p

Can you please tell us all here how this is flying?
 
Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but I don't see how simply having something that handles a few jumps for you or stops you from having the spiral of shame when you tweak the throttle too high over 50ls out from a station and the ship just overreacts is "destroying game play". Let's be honest with each other, no-one likes going 5,000ls in super cruise having to constantly adjust trajectory slightly or bring the make sure your arrival stays at 0.6 or above to avoid the spiral dance. Most people do other things... There are people out there watching Netflix whilst cruising to Hutton Orbital, or playing another game on a second monitor whilst flying to Jacques who only look at the screen if they get interdicted. Personally I don't see how a navigation computer that automatically performs the "press the J key, line up, press the J key" for the 5, 6 or 7 jumps most ships have before they run out of fuel would be an issue. It won't scoop, it won't handle interdictions, it won't fight. It just points the ship in the right direction and presses jump...

If you're already playing a second game, how can this be a problem for you? Personally I use a Rift, so if I go to Hutton I experience every last second of it as I can't read or watch TV in a headset.

You make a good argument, in a thread full of ... irrationality.
 
I would not like to see it used for system jumping but I would like it used for exploration when you need to travel to a distant planet in a system just to scan it.
But if you are interdicted (by NPC or Player) thats just bad luck if you are not watching the screen. This will stop people from setting and forgetting. Make it a module that you need to buy for the ship
that is not cheap.

Unfortunately could be seen as an exploit because you can both make money and put a permanent stamp on the game by hoovering up the first discovery / exploration of the galaxy. It's for this reason that I think there would have to be some kind of way point setting that proves you're human for any in-system cruise (which is a bit off topic in this thread ofc.). If it wasn't for that I'd agree with you .. what fun spending ten minutes touring a new solar system, with a beer/coffee in one hand, and one eye open for thargoids (in the other, sic.)
 
With Multi-crew on its way, the possibility of a Co-Pilot may make this moot, if the Co-Pilot can fly the ship.
If not, then this should be explored as an option.
 
To be honest when I go out on a true exploration trip I scan pretty much everything, iceballs, airless rocks, everything...
All I was trying to do was prove a point and maybe inject a little humour into the debate (obviously failed there).
Just hope the sound advice was, well, sound, and will save you future frustration :)
Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but I don't see how simply having something that handles a few jumps for you or stops you from having the spiral of shame when you tweak the throttle too high over 50ls out from a station and the ship just overreacts is "destroying game play". Let's be honest with each other, no-one likes going 5,000ls in super cruise having to constantly adjust trajectory slightly or bring the make sure your arrival stays at 0.6 or above to avoid the spiral dance. Most people do other things... There are people out there watching Netflix whilst cruising to Hutton Orbital, or playing another game on a second monitor whilst flying to Jacques who only look at the screen if they get interdicted. Personally I don't see how a navigation computer that automatically performs the "press the J key, line up, press the J key" for the 5, 6 or 7 jumps most ships have before they run out of fuel would be an issue. It won't scoop, it won't handle interdictions, it won't fight. It just points the ship in the right direction and presses jump...
Sounds good, in theory. But does this mean that when the exit point out of the system is behind the sun, it crashes into the sun? Or when you end up in a NS system, it might very well steer you straight into radiating death?

Because if that's the intention, the comedy value alone would be worth a go. :)
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
Hmm i might ask why you even play this game when your not even flying your own ship anymore ?
Why not just ask for a bot programm that does everything for you and when you have all the founds you buy the ship you want and go PvP ( because PvE seems nothing for you )?
The next thing would be since you did never fly your own ship you will suck at PvP and whining how overpowerd this and that is or use some other bot with scripts that even do PvP for you.

Really if you want the game do everything for you, whats the point of even playing ? You rankings would mean nothing since you did not archive em.
Might be better you go watch youtube or twich then.

People whining about the grind ( what grind btw ? ) and asking for a auto pilot are playing the wrong game. Elite is nothing for you, do yourself a favor play some other game mainly a pay 2 win will fit you well.
If you have no money for that find a game where you can cheat or use bot programms to finally archive nothing by your own and come to the conclusion that you suck at playing games.

So you're agaisnt AI crew members too then however, here's the challenge that you and people that think like you have yet to meet.

Tell us how it is "flying"
 
JSounds good, in theory. But does this mean that when the exit point out of the system is behind the sun, it crashes into the sun? Or when you end up in a NS system, it might very well steer you straight into radiating death?

This sounds like a job for ESS JAY Avory!!?

Because if that's the intention, the comedy value alone would be worth a go. :)

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No .. it's dropping (too close!)

unreliable quotation; "Nobody said automated jumps were in any way fool proof .. or safe" ~ SJA
(ps. ofc not really but I can see it now?)
 
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Jex =TE=

Banned
If you want to sit doing nothing, watching a ship fly from one System to another, then to another, then on to a Station, then land. Watch the steam broadcasts, it amount to the same thing. Of course, this is my opinion, but this time it is absolutely correct without question or without argument. Stupidest poll in the world...ever.

How is it a stupid poll? Or did you mean the results are? :)
 
Just hope the sound advice was, well, sound, and will save you future frustration :)

Sounds good, in theory. But does this mean that when the exit point out of the system is behind the sun, it crashes into the sun? Or when you end up in a NS system, it might very well steer you straight into radiating death?

Because if that's the intention, the comedy value alone would be worth a go. :)

See the demo in the video, that is how it works, simple and functional :)
 
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