Professor Alba Tesreau reports that unidentified objects have been seen near Wregoe SC-X b29-2
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Wouldn't they get deleted after 2-4 weeks anyway?
Not from codex. There's a section for recovered logs, but it's generally all messed up, with some logs overwriting others, or mislabelled and stuff.
so the witch got tired of them and had the alexandria liquidated?
Puts paid to my theory about the Cornsar wreckage being from the Alexandria. I agree that this is now the most likely explanation for the Cornsar attack, but I'm still hesitant to say that Salvation was behind this. A couple of things don't add up for me.
The most significant is the line about attracting Thargoids and how it "was the point all along". Not "that's the point". It's past-tense. It can still include Cornsar, but how far back does "all along" go? At the minimum, that might include the Alexandria itself attracting Thargoids. Combine that with the sabotage requiring extensive knowledge of the Alexandria, and "The Witch" appears to have a significant level of access and influence in Aegis. Enough to pull off this sabotage, and possibly also to be responsible for the plan of gathering Guardian tech in Thargoid territory in the first place.
Is that incompatible with Salvation? No. But it doesn't sit right with me that Salvation would have that level of influence over Aegis, and also need to compete with them. If he's ex-Aegis, he shouldn't have that level of influence of Aegis's plans. If he somehow still does, then where does his Azimuth connection come into play? That would either imply Azimuth recruited him after leaving, or that Azimuth itself already had that position in power over Aegis, through Salvation or others. And if he is currently working for Azimuth, what's he doing uncovering their secrets with random pilots?
Narratively, I also doubt that Salvation is the Witch. Were they the same person, I don't think there would be the need for the writers to create two separate mystery identities. Sure, "Salvation" is public-facing, but it feels contrived. And while not impossible to be a ruse, Salvation claims to be a man while"The Witch" is more likely to be a woman.
As for Aegis themselves, the gratitude the captain shows to independent pilots is clearly intended to contrast with the Baumann Report. This doesn't vindicate Aegis in my eyes, but it does confirm that whatever nefarious influences there are on the organisation as a whole, most of the people within it are probably doing their jobs and believing in Aegis's public goals. They aren't the ones making the decisions like "let's gather Guardian tech in Thargoid territory", as he points out.
Salvation being ex-Azimuth is also a plausible explanation to me. Cornsar remains a problem, but hopefully that will be followed up on soon.
The most significant is the line about attracting Thargoids and how it "was the point all along". Not "that's the point". It's past-tense. It can still include Cornsar, but how far back does "all along" go? At the minimum, that might include the Alexandria itself attracting Thargoids. Combine that with the sabotage requiring extensive knowledge of the Alexandria, and "The Witch" appears to have a significant level of access and influence in Aegis. Enough to pull off this sabotage, and possibly also to be responsible for the plan of gathering Guardian tech in Thargoid territory in the first place.
Is that incompatible with Salvation? No. But it doesn't sit right with me that Salvation would have that level of influence over Aegis, and also need to compete with them. If he's ex-Aegis, he shouldn't have that level of influence of Aegis's plans. If he somehow still does, then where does his Azimuth connection come into play? That would either imply Azimuth recruited him after leaving, or that Azimuth itself already had that position in power over Aegis, through Salvation or others. And if he is currently working for Azimuth, what's he doing uncovering their secrets with random pilots?
Narratively, I also doubt that Salvation is the Witch. Were they the same person, I don't think there would be the need for the writers to create two separate mystery identities. Sure, "Salvation" is public-facing, but it feels contrived. And while not impossible to be a ruse, Salvation claims to be a man while"The Witch" is more likely to be a woman.
As for Aegis themselves, the gratitude the captain shows to independent pilots is clearly intended to contrast with the Baumann Report. This doesn't vindicate Aegis in my eyes, but it does confirm that whatever nefarious influences there are on the organisation as a whole, most of the people within it are probably doing their jobs and believing in Aegis's public goals. They aren't the ones making the decisions like "let's gather Guardian tech in Thargoid territory", as he points out.
Salvation being ex-Azimuth is also a plausible explanation to me. Cornsar remains a problem, but hopefully that will be followed up on soon.
I wish I could send some audio logs telling a story to my customers facing issues in my product, and still stay in extended vacation without have to release any statement about fix the issues, when I'll return or even show what's ahead.
Oh boy... I'm working at the wrong place.
update: Nice story btw
Oh boy... I'm working at the wrong place.
update: Nice story btw
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Yes, that's very true.
Hmm. That was apparently Tesreau's plan, or at least she introduced it in the CG announcement. But if she's the Witch, why sabotage Aegis after all this time? Were Aegis + independent pilots being too efficient at destroying Thargoids that she couldn't get the captured ships needed for the Azimuth research? And if she's not the Witch (and if she is, drawing attention to the Alexandria wreck seems a terrible idea!) - and it's presumably not Tanner either - who else is sufficiently high up in Aegis to do this sort of thing?
Well, maybe they didn't need to be that high-up. Starship One was sabotaged - in the immediate sense - solely by Chief Technician Rory Webster. Azimuth having the ability to insert a single mole into an appropriate position in the Alexandria's engineering crew doesn't seem implausible in that context.
Regardless of how he got hold of Azimuth secrets, as an employee, ex-employee, or someone who stumbled across the Overlook wreckage sooner than everyone else ... I presume he's trying to give plausible deniability. And it's not as if the Proteus site is a massively important secret, given its age; indeed, if it hadn't been for Hyford's message and the discoveries from that, we'd all be assuming that Azimuth was long-defunct anyway.
Remember that he was really confident right from his first messages that he could save humanity from the Thargoids. But he only officially figured out how to do that after the Proteus was discovered several steps down the line. So why should he be at all confident that this will lead anywhere useful for Thargoids as opposed to "hey, I found a decryption key, this could be interesting".
Similarly the collection of Guardian artifacts from the Proteus site provides cover for him already having the ones from the Alexandria, if he was behind that.
And if Salvation and the Witch aren't working together, but it was the Witch who used the Alexandria relics to attract the Thargoids to Cornsar ...
- why would the Witch do that?
- if Salvation's prototype detector honestly did pick it up ... how come it didn't pick up the much bigger nebula attacks later?
I certainly don't expect Salvation and the Witch to be the same person (and I'm not ruling out yet that the Witch isn't a person at all)
But they could quite easily be working together - the Witch providing the strategy, the funding, and the continuation of Azimuth's plan ... Salvation providing the scientific expertise and also being a more convenient public-facing scapegoat if it all goes wrong. It's not impossible in that scenario that Salvation is being manipulated and doesn't actually know he's working for the Witch ... in that case, this might be a wake-up call for him, too.
In summary, Aegis was doomed from the start.
It's more likely the designs were stolen from a compartmentalized Aegis weapons research project that 'disappeared' off the books.
Who knows, maybe in a few months we'll get an message with a clue to go find those abandoned bases.
Given how compromised Aegis was, I wonder what other actions they took to sabotage Aegis from within.
It would explain Aegis' really crummy Community Goal rewards.
- The Witch and Salvation are effectively working together (whether they're a single person, organization, or allied is unclear but also less relevant)
- They had extremely high level access to and effective control of Aegis
- They setup Aegis to gather Guardian Artifacts on the Alexandria in Thargoid space (thus upsetting the Thargoids)
- They sabotaged the Alexandria to get possession of the Guardian Artifacts
- They murdered the crew of the Alexandria
- They seeded the Cornsar system with Guardian Artifacts to lure in the Thargoids (add all the civilian casualties that caused to their kill count)
- Then Salvation deployed the Guardian weapon that independent pilots previously helped them recover
It's more likely the designs were stolen from a compartmentalized Aegis weapons research project that 'disappeared' off the books.
Who knows, maybe in a few months we'll get an message with a clue to go find those abandoned bases.
Given how compromised Aegis was, I wonder what other actions they took to sabotage Aegis from within.
It would explain Aegis' really crummy Community Goal rewards.
if humanity was actually concerned about the thargoids and a war with them, we'd see a drive towards expanding to the 99.999% of the rest of the galaxy or even just colonia in a serious manner. Since we know thargoids seem to only care about this one litlte bit of the galaxy - and the galaxy is full of planets that can host host humanity or be made to.
what's really going on here? Why would secret government projects and programs have been made that span decades to escape the bubble in case the thargoids return, but now that they have returned, there's zero movement?
What changed? Was the Club really protecting humanity and were all eliminated - leaving us without their guiding hand - unable to corral humanity among it's many different factions? Have we made contact with something that makes us far less worried about the end of humanity at the hands of the thargoids even though not even the guardians could accomplish such a feat without being killed off despite being apparently far more advanced than humanity currently is?
If guardian AI has been contacted, is it orchestrating humanity's current position as a lure to draw the thargoid out so it can finish the job it failed to do millions of years ago?
Are we reading far more into the narrative than what has actually been put into it and are working ourselves up for another formadine rift?
what's really going on here? Why would secret government projects and programs have been made that span decades to escape the bubble in case the thargoids return, but now that they have returned, there's zero movement?
What changed? Was the Club really protecting humanity and were all eliminated - leaving us without their guiding hand - unable to corral humanity among it's many different factions? Have we made contact with something that makes us far less worried about the end of humanity at the hands of the thargoids even though not even the guardians could accomplish such a feat without being killed off despite being apparently far more advanced than humanity currently is?
If guardian AI has been contacted, is it orchestrating humanity's current position as a lure to draw the thargoid out so it can finish the job it failed to do millions of years ago?
Are we reading far more into the narrative than what has actually been put into it and are working ourselves up for another formadine rift?
When the guardians return... it's gonna be wild.
Like... WILD FOR REAL!
Regardless of what the other answers are, the answer to this is always yes.
How do we "discover" this content on our own if we don't get the email (and want to pretend we never saw this thread)?Please remember to include spoiler tags for those who still want to discover the content on their own
At first I suspected Salvation behind the loss of the Alexandria, but since "the Witch" already appears in other Thargoid related logs, he might be innocent after all. That being said (and since I don't know those other logs myself), who is "The Witch" and how can she(?) be involved in both, Azimuth and the loss of the Alexandria? Can she really be this old? This also leads to the question if Salvation is also this old, considering his advanced knowledge about Guardian Tech and the lost Azimuth ships. Reminds me a bit of a Merlin vs. Morgan Le Fay situation from the old sagas (or Stargate
Haven't seen anyone post the logs so here you go...
Audio included!
Audio included!
Audio
May 28th, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
I guess it's about time for an update, huh? These past few weeks have been rough.
After the Thargoid attacks I mentioned last time, the plan was for the Alexandria to leave Delphi and seek refuge in the Sol system. It's about as safe a location as humanity has to offer, right? Well, the Thargoids followed us to our first waypoint in HIP 16538. The only reason the Alexandria is still intact is due to independent pilots jumping in to protect us. God knows how this war would have panned out without them.
To really put the spit-shine on things, the Federation banned the Alexandria from entering its space a few days ago. They're convinced that our cargo is attracting the Thargoids. Maybe they're right. I thought the 'Thargoid Curse' was nonsense, but something's drawing them like flies around crap. It's no secret that Guardian tech stirs Thargoids up pretty badly. Maybe Aegis should have thought of that before filling my ship's cargo holds with the stuff.
A few of my crew have suggested jettisoning the Guardian artefacts. I understand why. They're nervous. But the cargo is critical to Aegis's work. We have to make sure the cargo is dispersed securely via Aegis craft - not easy to do while there's Thargoids and a civilian population to worry about.
Since Sol's off the menu, The Alexandria has been redirected to HIP 30944. It's a practically empty system. We have vessels farming the tritium for the jump but it's dangerous out there with the Thargoids prowling. I estimate a week before we're ready to move.
Anyway, that's it for now. I need to contact Admiral Tanner to discuss the cargo exchange schedule. Hopefully I'll have some better news next time.
May 28th, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
I guess it's about time for an update, huh? These past few weeks have been rough.
After the Thargoid attacks I mentioned last time, the plan was for the Alexandria to leave Delphi and seek refuge in the Sol system. It's about as safe a location as humanity has to offer, right? Well, the Thargoids followed us to our first waypoint in HIP 16538. The only reason the Alexandria is still intact is due to independent pilots jumping in to protect us. God knows how this war would have panned out without them.
To really put the spit-shine on things, the Federation banned the Alexandria from entering its space a few days ago. They're convinced that our cargo is attracting the Thargoids. Maybe they're right. I thought the 'Thargoid Curse' was nonsense, but something's drawing them like flies around crap. It's no secret that Guardian tech stirs Thargoids up pretty badly. Maybe Aegis should have thought of that before filling my ship's cargo holds with the stuff.
A few of my crew have suggested jettisoning the Guardian artefacts. I understand why. They're nervous. But the cargo is critical to Aegis's work. We have to make sure the cargo is dispersed securely via Aegis craft - not easy to do while there's Thargoids and a civilian population to worry about.
Since Sol's off the menu, The Alexandria has been redirected to HIP 30944. It's a practically empty system. We have vessels farming the tritium for the jump but it's dangerous out there with the Thargoids prowling. I estimate a week before we're ready to move.
Anyway, that's it for now. I need to contact Admiral Tanner to discuss the cargo exchange schedule. Hopefully I'll have some better news next time.
Audio
Attention all crew. This is Captain Morales.
The Alexandria has not arrived in HIP 30944, as planned. Our current location is unknown. All navigational systems have been disabled, and our FSD is offline. Long-range sensors are fried. Communication arrays are down.
I'll be honest with you: it looks like the ship has been sabotaged by someone who knew exactly what to do. My guess is we're floating between systems. 'Dead space', my grandpa called it. Could be here for a while.
What I can tell you is that life support is still running and emergency power looks stable. We're not going to run out of air or heat anytime soon. Our cargo and stores are intact.
There's a lot of work ahead of us, ladies and gentlemen. I'm confident that we'll get ourselves home but it's not going to be easy. I need every one of your calm and focused. Officers will be given a full rundown of tasks in the next hour or so. Do everything you're told as efficiently as possible, and the Alexandria will be up and running before you know it.
Stay frosty. Morales out.
Attention all crew. This is Captain Morales.
The Alexandria has not arrived in HIP 30944, as planned. Our current location is unknown. All navigational systems have been disabled, and our FSD is offline. Long-range sensors are fried. Communication arrays are down.
I'll be honest with you: it looks like the ship has been sabotaged by someone who knew exactly what to do. My guess is we're floating between systems. 'Dead space', my grandpa called it. Could be here for a while.
What I can tell you is that life support is still running and emergency power looks stable. We're not going to run out of air or heat anytime soon. Our cargo and stores are intact.
There's a lot of work ahead of us, ladies and gentlemen. I'm confident that we'll get ourselves home but it's not going to be easy. I need every one of your calm and focused. Officers will be given a full rundown of tasks in the next hour or so. Do everything you're told as efficiently as possible, and the Alexandria will be up and running before you know it.
Stay frosty. Morales out.
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July 3rd, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
It's been a month since the failed hyperspace jump. We're still dead in the water, so to speak.
Our technicians are working sixteen hour days but aren't achieving much. Whoever sabotaged us knew everything about the Alexandria's operation. They corrupted our computer and wiped all alternates and backups. Most of our interface panels are useless. I can't even order a hot drink from the god-damned vending machines anymore.
The hardware was crippled as well. Even our shuttles and fighters. Grant assessed the damage and can't work out how the hell it happened. But it happened, all right. I'd be impressed if I didn't have four thousand crew looking to me to get them home. Instead I want to strangle whoever did this to us.
Morales. Where? Port side? Meet me in docking bay one.
Vernier says a bunch of heavy freighters just dropped out of hyperspace nearby. Given that we're not broadcasting a signal, they're either the luckiest search party in the galaxy or they knew exactly where to look.
July 3rd, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
It's been a month since the failed hyperspace jump. We're still dead in the water, so to speak.
Our technicians are working sixteen hour days but aren't achieving much. Whoever sabotaged us knew everything about the Alexandria's operation. They corrupted our computer and wiped all alternates and backups. Most of our interface panels are useless. I can't even order a hot drink from the god-damned vending machines anymore.
The hardware was crippled as well. Even our shuttles and fighters. Grant assessed the damage and can't work out how the hell it happened. But it happened, all right. I'd be impressed if I didn't have four thousand crew looking to me to get them home. Instead I want to strangle whoever did this to us.
Morales. Where? Port side? Meet me in docking bay one.
Vernier says a bunch of heavy freighters just dropped out of hyperspace nearby. Given that we're not broadcasting a signal, they're either the luckiest search party in the galaxy or they knew exactly where to look.
Audio
This is Captain Morales.
We're on the engineering deck of the Alexandria. About... three hundred of us, roughly. We're all that's left.
The unidentified ships hailed us. Claimed a problem with our FSD was detected just before the failed hyperspace jump. Someone called 'The Witch' had arranged the rescue operation and spent a month tracking us down.
I reviewed their orders and everything seemed legit. Not that I had much choice. The Alexandria is stranded. We agreed to take the shuttles, and my crew was separated into groups of a hundred per shuttle. I couldn't shake the feeling that something was off, though. I noticed our rescuers were still carrying their weapons.
Amel saw him first. Dammit, I can't remember the man's name. He hit the viewport from the outside. Just floated out of the black and bounced off the screen. They must have ejected him out of a shuttle. He won't have been the only one.
I gave the order to resist. Not many of us had weapons but my crew trust me. We fought hard but they were better equipped and well trained. I managed to secure a rearguard as we funnelled everyone we could to the rear of the ship, towards the engineering deck. The main entrance is defensible and the hatches have been barricaded. Vernier managed to grab a captive, too. I'll get some answers out of them soon.
It must be the Guardian artefacts they're after. They're the only items on board valuable enough to kill for. No, slaughter for. So many of my crew...
We need a plan, and fast.
This is Captain Morales.
We're on the engineering deck of the Alexandria. About... three hundred of us, roughly. We're all that's left.
The unidentified ships hailed us. Claimed a problem with our FSD was detected just before the failed hyperspace jump. Someone called 'The Witch' had arranged the rescue operation and spent a month tracking us down.
I reviewed their orders and everything seemed legit. Not that I had much choice. The Alexandria is stranded. We agreed to take the shuttles, and my crew was separated into groups of a hundred per shuttle. I couldn't shake the feeling that something was off, though. I noticed our rescuers were still carrying their weapons.
Amel saw him first. Dammit, I can't remember the man's name. He hit the viewport from the outside. Just floated out of the black and bounced off the screen. They must have ejected him out of a shuttle. He won't have been the only one.
I gave the order to resist. Not many of us had weapons but my crew trust me. We fought hard but they were better equipped and well trained. I managed to secure a rearguard as we funnelled everyone we could to the rear of the ship, towards the engineering deck. The main entrance is defensible and the hatches have been barricaded. Vernier managed to grab a captive, too. I'll get some answers out of them soon.
It must be the Guardian artefacts they're after. They're the only items on board valuable enough to kill for. No, slaughter for. So many of my crew...
We need a plan, and fast.
Audio
July 15th, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
We're still alive for now. The invaders are long gone, along with the Guardian artefacts and almost all our supplies.
The Alexandria's remaining food has been salvaged from vending machines and personal items. The crew are rationing pretty hard, but we'll be lucky to make it over a month. They've left us here to starve.
The captive didn't give us much. Just a name, age, rank... nothing about the organisation that hired him. We roughed him up a bit but he still wouldn't spill. The only interesting thing he said was after I warned him that the amount of Guardian tech his friends were stealing would probably attract Thargoids. The guy smiled and said 'That was the point all along.' Anyway, we've left him tied up.
It's obvious we need to get the Alexandria moving again. One of the engineering team, a rookie named Landis, has proposed a method of getting a single jump out of the frame shift drive. I'll admit, it sounds more dangerous than I'm comfortable with but we're out of options.
The odds are stacked against us but we have one more roll of the dice. Maybe.
July 15th, 3307.
Captain Morales, private log.
We're still alive for now. The invaders are long gone, along with the Guardian artefacts and almost all our supplies.
The Alexandria's remaining food has been salvaged from vending machines and personal items. The crew are rationing pretty hard, but we'll be lucky to make it over a month. They've left us here to starve.
The captive didn't give us much. Just a name, age, rank... nothing about the organisation that hired him. We roughed him up a bit but he still wouldn't spill. The only interesting thing he said was after I warned him that the amount of Guardian tech his friends were stealing would probably attract Thargoids. The guy smiled and said 'That was the point all along.' Anyway, we've left him tied up.
It's obvious we need to get the Alexandria moving again. One of the engineering team, a rookie named Landis, has proposed a method of getting a single jump out of the frame shift drive. I'll admit, it sounds more dangerous than I'm comfortable with but we're out of options.
The odds are stacked against us but we have one more roll of the dice. Maybe.
Audio
This is Morales. We've just activated the FSD fix. In a minute or so we'll know if it works.
It took longer than expected and we ran out of food six days ago. Anything drinkable from the recycling system was finished yesterday morning. The crew is exhausted; some can barely function. If this is gonna work, it's gotta work now.
Whatever happens, I want to state for the record that the crew of the Alexandria have carried out their duties beyond any reasonable expectation of... the service they should need to give. Despite the sabotage, the betrayal by our supposed rescuers, the stress of tight rations... the gamble that we're taking now.
The crew has done everything asked of them and more. I'm proud of the never-say-die attitude, and the dedication shown to the Aegis project.
Okay. Landis. Start her up.
You have to be kidding me. Come on! Just give us a break for once, you no-good stupid piece of sh-
This is Morales. We've just activated the FSD fix. In a minute or so we'll know if it works.
It took longer than expected and we ran out of food six days ago. Anything drinkable from the recycling system was finished yesterday morning. The crew is exhausted; some can barely function. If this is gonna work, it's gotta work now.
Whatever happens, I want to state for the record that the crew of the Alexandria have carried out their duties beyond any reasonable expectation of... the service they should need to give. Despite the sabotage, the betrayal by our supposed rescuers, the stress of tight rations... the gamble that we're taking now.
The crew has done everything asked of them and more. I'm proud of the never-say-die attitude, and the dedication shown to the Aegis project.
Okay. Landis. Start her up.
You have to be kidding me. Come on! Just give us a break for once, you no-good stupid piece of sh-
Cool story. For some reason I did not get the message, but flew out anyway. Scanned 2 of the DE's so far but didn't get the logs. Shame that.
Oh boy...more logs to read....wowow the excitement FDEv...
Cheers for those mate, seems I can't access them without receiving the original message
I agree. Been saying this for some time now. Something like that would make space looting and salvaging engaging AND interesting, rather than just HGE looping or log festing.
This is not true, anyone can read them. You have to scan the degraded emissions to find the wreckage, then get within 1km to find the uplinks, then within 200m of an uplink to scan and read it.
Are the logs saved as codex entries or just messages? I’ll spend the time/fuel to jump and investigate if i get a cool replayable codex entry. Otherwise I’ll read it in Canonn. I hate getting only messages that will disappear…
…and actually while we’re on the subject, are all the logs
codex entries or regular messages?
…and actually while we’re on the subject, are all the logs
at the two locations and mega ship involved with project seraph
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