Pulse Wave Analyzer Hotfix soon, please?
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I had a case last night where I looked straight ahead, into the direction I'm flying (I'm using TrackIR), no yellow rocks.
Quick peek towards the left over my shoulder, and back straight on the rock my ship is pointed at is suddenly deep yellow.
Magic.
Quick peek towards the left over my shoulder, and back straight on the rock my ship is pointed at is suddenly deep yellow.
Magic.
It's not cracked. It's pretty broken. No point in any scanner better than a D or C right now. You're not going to see anything much in front of you until you have stopped to mine a rock already and even then not very far away. To find cores, well you really don't. You stumble into one that is off to the sides or behind you but you can't really hunt them.
Lmao people are defending this as intentional? Some of y'all deeply concern me.
Over the last 2 weeks, I have managed to overcome the PWA bug. Flying extra wide perpendicular routes to my direct pass through the hotspot alignments. It took a while to figure out the best approach until the PWA gets sorted. I am actually pulling in my 500 tons much quicker than before although I'll put that down to being in a pristine ring with only me farming the double hotspot. What I have noticed though in the last two weeks is my ratio, VO's is now only making up for a bout 17 -20 % of my tonnage as opposed to roughly 80-85% before the update broke the PWA. Has anyone else seen similar results or am I just not being as lucky as before. I mean a drop in about 60 % is massive. Anyways have a nice weekend.
The odds of succesfully reverskiing an asteroid field are 3720 to 1.
You can certainly work around the new behaviour but does feel broken to me.
Wide back and forth arcs seem to work, reverse flying, even flying forwards dead slow.
It feels like a combination of some sort of 'lag' combined with something positional. Staying in one place pinging doesn't seem to highlight things that you'll subsequently see if you move a bit. So not just lag? And then maybe be some sort of angular stuff since I seem to have more in the perifery.. Dunno.
It is possibly just a performance issue, so that the old method boost, boost, boost, preferably above or below the ring is simply overstraining the PWA now.
I have just done something that I usually avoid: non stop "power mining" for one hour (no breaks, no forum babble, no relaxing. I hate this as that's were the grind already starts in my perception. Just this one time, "for the science") and I have documented as much details as possible. This post could get a little lengthy, but I guess it's worth it (and no, I don't apologize).
First a few preconditions about where and how I'm mining. I'm in a pristine ring in an (formerly) uncharted system 2360 Ly from Sol, FC parked in the ring, mining vessel is a CMK4 with 52 t cargo space. This ring is somewhat special (so I thought at first, but which is irrelevant as I'm pretty sure now), as it has 5 VO hotspots, 2 of them almost perfectly overlapping (just 0.01 Ls apart, optically looks like one as seen from above). For this test I have chosen a single VO hotspot which incidentally also is the smallest one, so we can exclude size and overlapping as possible factors.
When I drop into a hotspot, first thing I do is boosting directly into the asteroids, in contrary to flying above or below what most miners possibly still do, and what I did in the past as well. This approach seems no longer viable. Which is probably bad news for big ship miners... I also don't fly stubbornly in a straight line: While constantly moving towards a position marker (here the center of the hotspot ~700km away) in FA Off, not necessarily very slow anymore (as I initially thought would be the best way) but usually not boosting.
Every once in a while I turn around (not just like in a wheel but rather like trying to cover a sphere-like area) while still floating in the same direction and constantly pulsing. The position marker only serves as a rough orientation to avoid moving in circles while my main 'carrot' still being groups of glowing rocks.
Once I see something promising, I steer into this direction to have a closer look. Here is the complete hour in form of a mini diary, where the whole session lasted almost perfectly 60 minutes, measured between docking from and to my FC. To keep it at 60 minutes, I skipped trying to find a last one which I usually would have done to fill the hopper (objectively not worth it anyway, with an almost full cargo hold).
If you are generous and count the 93% fragments as one ton, this makes 52 t in one hour. Not my best result, but quite ok for me: With a peak price of 1,6 Mio this would pay 83 Mio for one hour of fun. Yes, FUN. For me at least.
- first glowing rocks after ~ 3 minutes
- first core after ~ 7 minutes - Grandidierite (skipped, I only want VOs)
- 9:24 first VO core. perfect lucky shot, 15 chunks, 18 t in total after all SDs were mined after 17:00
- 18:17 second VO core. 14 chunks, almost screwed it as it had no strong fissures. Had to rearm and set a new load. 36 t after 26:00
- 29:00 core - Grandidierite
- 37:30 core - LTD
- 47:30 third VO core, 51 t and 93% fragments
- To keep my self imposed time-limit I stopped here and docked at 60:30
One comment to the 'broken' state of the PWA. I see indeed some minor odd phenomena every once in a while, like suddenly a whole group of glowing rocks suddenly vanishes and being replaced by another group. Or a rock suddenly starts to glow right in front of me. But in no way can I reproduce what I have seen from other commanders and their videos, but I have no reason to doubt their words. On the flipside, they also have no reason to doubt my words as I also have posted a few short videos of my experience.
I hope this is enough fodder to have a more reasonable discussion now and not just ride the mantra "the PWA is broken". It certainly works a bit differently now, there is no doubt about it. I for one like it.
Thank you for the detailed report
I'd follow up by saying I wasn't boosting about before but taking it relatively slowly and making some gentle arcs, that doesn't work you've got to go slowly and/or swing around more. So if it is a catching up thing it has got to be pretty severe and, as I said, sitting still and pinging doesn't seem to reveal anything despite afterwards seeing something right nearby after a bit of movement. Almost like there are bubbles from within which triggering the PWA won't work properly but it will catch or operate properly outside those bubbles and once a rock is highlighted it will then stay lit. Maybe.. Still feels like there might be a 'its behind you' bias which does seem laggy or something to do with angle? Perhaps combination of things. I've had things stop glowing in the past, prior to all this, guess just less evident when the PWA was hitting more reliably?
Anyway, be interesting to get some comment from FD...
I've not taken a proper record of my mining but your one hour session sounds very similar to the sort of experience I'm having, though I'd add the note that I'm seeing a large amount of Tritium while I'm at it. I'd also note that VO hot spots in the same ring seem to have wildly different yields - that could just be luck of the draw but has seemed pretty consistent. Perhaps I should be taking much more careful note.
It would be better if they would just fix the dam thing.I can just imagine how frustrating core mining must be for a newbie.It's not as if nothing is wrong and they must know where the screw up is I think its more a matter of them accepting the fact that the game has gotten away from them.
All the more for a PWA that everyone considers broken... Be careful when fixing it, not that I end up with a credit overflow!
what the hell will one thing have to do with the other
I like imagining him driving backwards when using his car after all fwd-gears broke, telling everybody they are wrong to suggest going to the mechanic, telling them they prefer the brainfree procedure of driving a car, insisting that he can get to work and buying groceries in the same time in comparison to using fwd-gears.
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Let's see man, I'm going to give you a hint ... to make great millions that were made before, you didn't need PWA because it was with laser mining, and you can still do it, you're saying things with no sense and confusing other players.No, neither below nor above is where the cherries grow now, you have to go right into the middle of the mess now to get best results. Fly slow and don't boost. Be patient. Just roll your ship around in all axis every now and then, while still floating in your old direction (FA Off is mandatory here). Only change direction if you see something worthwhile. Think more about searching for rare mushrooms than mass harvesting.
Flying backwards is not necessary and utter nonsense, like most of the tosh that is secreted in this thread. Unfortunately constantly copied and pasted by all who can't bother to do some examination by their own and try something new. Not very helpful, but keep shooting yourself in the knee - if it's fun.
The pwa is broken/ deep mining,stop saying to adapt to nonsense .
And you can still grind 500 million an hour, clown.Ok, in cleartext, exclusively for you: If they "fix it", it will most likely be even easier for me to make money.
Among those who think the PWA is broken, there are basically 2 types of people: Those who are not able to adapt to new situations, who notoriously insist on old habits and thus prefer the most brainfree procedures.
And then there are those who cannot grind 500 million per hour anymore, and these are the clowns this comment was aimed at.
What kind of brand you are is not quite clear to me yet. Probably one of those that you have to explain every other joke at parties...
Hope you didn't slap your frontal lobe too hard?
nothing compared to reading a good handful of nonsense
Nice to see that you can understand a one-liner at least. Maybe in 5 years or so we can try a real conversation.
Until then, bye andPLONK
But if you haven't understood anything that dozens of players have told you
... what have you done with those words?Well, continue in your position talking about something ,we've clearly seen that you have no idea,and say nonsense accusing others just to agree with yourself ...
and you're still on, it's amazing
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Well, I took another stab at Icy Mining.... and darn that was utterly poor. Another aborted run basically.
I don't like the idea of having to be some kind of "near-permanently rotating entity [in my Mining T10]" just to get some sparks from the broken Pulse Wave Analyzer.
I'm scratching my head that there's been no announcement about a fix or hotfix yet. Been quite a while.
I liked going mining for various ores just for fun and for a change while mainly Exploring far out in Deep Space - but that's currently rather pointless.
Laser-Mining Painite gets old after a while.
I don't like the idea of having to be some kind of "near-permanently rotating entity [in my Mining T10]" just to get some sparks from the broken Pulse Wave Analyzer.
I'm scratching my head that there's been no announcement about a fix or hotfix yet. Been quite a while.
I liked going mining for various ores just for fun and for a change while mainly Exploring far out in Deep Space - but that's currently rather pointless.
Laser-Mining Painite gets old after a while.
Whassa matter, imaginary wife told you off again? You really don't have to be insulting about it, do you?Ok, in cleartext, exclusively for you: If they "fix it", it will most likely be even easier for me to make money.
Among those who think the PWA is broken, there are basically 2 types of people: Those who are not able to adapt to new situations, who notoriously insist on old habits and thus prefer the most brainfree procedures.
And then there are those who cannot grind 500 million per hour anymore, and these are the clowns this comment was aimed at.
What kind of brand you are is not quite clear to me yet. Probably one of those that you have to explain every other joke at parties...
Hope you didn't slap your frontal lobe too hard?
For those who are actually still having issues but not in a core hunting vibe (like tritium etc.) the few glowy rocks you do find (I wonder if they're just spread out more...?) the nearby rocks/snowballs will have a higher percentage of what you're looking for.
See Fillup, it's SO easy to be useful, you should try it sometime...
